U.S. Official: North Korean Submarine is Missing, Presumed Sunk

Onkel Neal · 03-11-16, 05:37 PM

U.S. Official: North Korean Submarine is Missing, Presumed Sunk
http://news.usni.org/2016/03/11/u-s-...-presumed-sunk

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A North Korean People’s Navy submarine is missing and presumed sunk, a U.S. official told USNI News on Friday. The unknown class of submarine was operating off the North Korean coast in the last several days when the submarine went missing.

“About week ago it went missing and the speculation is that it sank,” the official told USNI News. “The North Koreans have not made an attempt to indicate there is something wrong or that they require help or some type of assistance.”

The official was reluctant to give specific details on the presumed loss of the boat due to sensitivities on how the military was tracking the vessel.

Oops, was that your sub, Kimmy?

How hard would it be to knock out a NK sub operating below PD?

Well, this is where it all began....

Cybermat47 · 03-11-16, 05:39 PM

Who would have thought that a submarine as new as the Romeo class could sink?

moose1am · 03-11-16, 09:51 PM

??? What happened?

nikimcbee · 03-11-16, 11:06 PM

Here's my guess.

nikimcbee · 03-11-16, 11:07 PM

...Or maybe Un opened the hatch, thinking it was the fridge door?

Aktungbby · 03-11-16, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Who would have thought that a submarine as new as the Romeo class could sink?

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By today's standards Romeo class submarines are considered obsolete, but they still have some value as training and surveillance vessels. North Korea operates 77 Romeo class submarines. Seven were directly imported from China between 1973 and 1975, and the remainder locally assembled with Chinese supplied parts between 1976 and 1995. One apparently sank in an accident in 1985. Four Chinese imported units are based on the western coast. Type 633: Original Chinese built Romeo, China was to have assembled these Romeos from knock-down kits provided by the Soviet Union, 6 were planned, but only 2 were completed. The construction program came to a complete stop when the USSR stopped delivery of parts following the Sino-Soviet split. Construction of the 3rd unit at Wuhan was stopped, and available parts were diverted to complete the first pair, but many parts had to be developed indigenously. The primary improvement of Type 633 over the original Soviet boats is the use of domestic Chinese batteries, which had slightly superior performance to that of the original Soviet batteries.

Mr Quatro · 03-12-16, 06:34 AM

Darpa knows, but she won't tell: http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-te...-actuv-launch/

Oberon · 03-12-16, 06:36 AM

Obviously someone knocked on the hatch...

(FYI, I believe the class of sub hasn't been announced by the USN, since they don't particularly want to give away how they know, so it could well be one of the KPNs many midget subs).

Jimbuna · 03-12-16, 10:32 AM

With any luck the little fat bugga will have been on board at the time (like in the picture in the first post).

A little payback for Cheonan.

Oberon · 03-12-16, 08:07 PM

Ah, I doubt it was US or ROK action, probably a malfunction or possibly a mine, but most likely something broke and down she went.

Jimbuna · 03-13-16, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Ah, I doubt it was US or ROK action, probably a malfunction or possibly a mine, but most likely something broke and down she went.

Most likely outcome

speed150mph · 03-14-16, 11:12 AM

Do you really blame the us navy for not giving away details? I'm suprised they said anything. North Korea is one of the most volitile countries in the world, and in recent times have stepped up their nuclear based threats, saber rattling and war mongering against South Korea. If seaman Jong dropped a torpedo and it exploded, or there was a sign of an explosion of any kind, if they can pin it to the US or South Korea, they will. That's a possible excuse to war.

If I was in the navy, I'd deny that there was so much as a floating garbage bag from a us ship within 1000 miles of wherever it happened.

And yeah, that's what happens when you build a Korean knockoff from chinese parts, of a submarine that the soviets designed in the 1950's.....

ikalugin · 03-15-16, 02:10 AM

No one really likes the DPRK, but may those seamen rest in peace. Dying in a sub is a bad way to go.

Cybermat47 · 03-15-16, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

No one really likes the DPRK, but may those seamen rest in peace. Dying in a sub is a bad way to go.

True. They weren't responsible for the Kims' atrocities.

R.I.P.

Mr Quatro · 03-15-16, 07:00 AM

They were just following orders like our side (no smilies)

03-11-16, 05:39 PM	#2
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03-11-16, 09:51 PM	#3
moose1am Frogman Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 303 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I wonder what happened to that submarine? ??? What happened? __________________ Regards, Moose1am My avatar resembles the moderator as they are the ones that control the avatar on my page.

03-11-16, 11:06 PM	#4
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,925 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Here's my guess. __________________

03-11-16, 11:07 PM	#5
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,925 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	...Or maybe Un opened the hatch, thinking it was the fridge door? __________________

03-12-16, 06:34 AM	#7
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Darpa knows, but she won't tell: http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-te...-actuv-launch/ __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

03-12-16, 06:36 AM	#8
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Obviously someone knocked on the hatch... (FYI, I believe the class of sub hasn't been announced by the USN, since they don't particularly want to give away how they know, so it could well be one of the KPNs many midget subs).

03-12-16, 10:32 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,457 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	With any luck the little fat bugga will have been on board at the time (like in the picture in the first post). A little payback for Cheonan. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

03-12-16, 08:07 PM	#10
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Ah, I doubt it was US or ROK action, probably a malfunction or possibly a mine, but most likely something broke and down she went.

03-14-16, 11:12 AM	#12
speed150mph Electrician's Mate Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 132 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Do you really blame the us navy for not giving away details? I'm suprised they said anything. North Korea is one of the most volitile countries in the world, and in recent times have stepped up their nuclear based threats, saber rattling and war mongering against South Korea. If seaman Jong dropped a torpedo and it exploded, or there was a sign of an explosion of any kind, if they can pin it to the US or South Korea, they will. That's a possible excuse to war. If I was in the navy, I'd deny that there was so much as a floating garbage bag from a us ship within 1000 miles of wherever it happened. And yeah, that's what happens when you build a Korean knockoff from chinese parts, of a submarine that the soviets designed in the 1950's..... __________________ Americans make better submarines? No my friend, Russia makes better submarines, Americans just make better computers

03-15-16, 02:10 AM	#13
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	No one really likes the DPRK, but may those seamen rest in peace. Dying in a sub is a bad way to go. __________________ Grumpy as always.

03-15-16, 07:00 AM	#15
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	They were just following orders like our side (no smilies) __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..