2016 US Presidential election thread - Page 11

Rockstar · 08-08-15, 07:23 PM

mapuc · 08-08-15, 08:00 PM

Going to see this Debate later today when I have the time to it.

During the discussion on Danish TV, which was ca 6-7 minutes, most of it was about this Mr Trump.

I want to know more about the others.

Markus

BossMark · 08-09-15, 12:57 AM

So is Mrs Clinton still the favourite to become the next president?

Wolferz · 08-09-15, 06:50 AM

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So is Mrs Clinton still the favourite to become the next president?

Old iron britches has defecated in her mess kit one too many times.

Besides, it will be business as usual and the next POTUS will be selected by his or her new boss...
The head of the Masonic Order.

Torplexed · 08-09-15, 07:11 AM

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So is Mrs Clinton still the favourite to become the next president?

I don't know if I would say favorite. After almost 25 years in the public eye in sometimes in public office she doesn't exactly excite the electorate anymore. Certainly not in the sense that Obama did in 2008. I do find it interesting that Bernie Sanders has made a strong showing among democrats and that there are continual pushes to recruit others into the race for the democratic nominee. (like Joe Biden and Howard Schultz) You do get the sense that even on the left, there are many anxious not to have to look at those pantsuits for the next four years.

Oberon · 08-09-15, 07:57 AM

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Likely Fox News and the GOP would love to see Trump gone because they are worried what would happen if he wins the primary or if he has a serious following and chooses to run as an independent. They are going to jump on the now exposed sexist chink in Trump's armor.

It's predictable. They've been looking for a gaffe, any gaffe the public doesn't just brush off with a laugh. Blatant sexism is so not OK in this day and age. Having Megyn Kelly ask the question may have been a purposeful direct challenge to get the predicted response Trump has to female reporters. I expect there will be a lot of poking Trump with a stick to get the fateful soundbite in the weeks to come.

This is true, they need to destroy Trump with any means possible...and yet in doing so and doing so in an obvious manner they may well in fact improve his chances by making him appear even more as breaking away from the norms of the GOP which I think is part of what has got him this far. If Fox News and the GOP are shown to be running scared from Trump, then he is only going to gain popularity from it from those who don't like the GOPs attempts to break back into the center ground. It would be interesting to see how many of the Tea Party crowd have been wooed by Trump, if any.

Honestly, if the GOP want to stand a chance against Trump, they should push Fiorina forward a bit, she seemed to poll well in the early debate the other night but lacked an opportunity to go head to head with the big guns. I think she could have undermined Trump spectacularly.

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I don't know if I would say favorite. After almost 25 years in the public eye in sometimes in public office she doesn't exactly excite the electorate anymore. Certainly not in the sense that Obama did in 2008. I do find it interesting that Bernie Sanders has made a strong showing among democrats and that there are continual pushes to recruit others into the race for the democratic nominee. (like Joe Biden and Howard Schultz) You do get the sense that even on the left, there are many anxious not to have to look at those pantsuits for the next four years.

Aye, Saunders has got a good innings amongst the left, especially in the youth and those of a more socialist persuasion. He's a bit like the UKs Jeremy Corbyn. Honestly though, I don't think he's quite got the financial power to make it to victory. One of the other major contenders will eventually steamroller him. That being said, if he did win it, and Trump won the GOP...it would make for a very crazy election.

Wolferz · 08-09-15, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

I don't know if I would say favorite. After almost 25 years in the public eye in sometimes in public office she doesn't exactly excite the electorate anymore. Certainly not in the sense that Obama did in 2008. I do find it interesting that Bernie Sanders has made a strong showing among democrats and that there are continual pushes to recruit others into the race for the democratic nominee. (like Joe Biden and Howard Schultz) You do get the sense that even on the left, there are many anxious not to have to look at those pantsuits for the next four years.

Adding another wrinkle to the aging former FLOTUS...

I dread the thought of a menopausal or post menopausal POTUS

Oberon · 08-09-15, 08:02 AM

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I dread the thought of a menopausal or post menopausal POTUS

Steady on, Donald.

Torplexed · 08-09-15, 08:21 AM

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Steady on, Donald.

Speaking of which, it looks like the Sunday chat shows here are going full-bore on whether the Donald crossed the line in hinting that the debate host who had the temerity to ask him tough questions was on her period.

It seems the break-out leader in the GOP primary race has finally managed to convince even his most ardent admirers in the media that he's beyond boorish. But, knowing Donald he'll double-down on his critics before conceding anything.

Onkel Neal · 08-09-15, 11:52 AM

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Speaking of which, it looks like the Sunday chat shows here are going full-bore on whether the Donald crossed the line in hinting that the debate host who had the temerity to ask him tough questions was on her period.

It seems the break-out leader in the GOP primary race has finally managed to convince even his most ardent admirers in the media that he's beyond boorish.

I hope so. I like to think he has no supporters. he's just polling well because we're very early in the race.

Meanwhile, wildly amusing on the other side

Oberon · 08-09-15, 11:58 AM

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I hope so. I like to think he has no supporters. he's just polling well because we're very early in the race.

Meanwhile, wildly amusing on the other side

I was just about to post about that...I mean, this is the guy who walked with Martin Luther King for goodness sake.
Some people...

Still, at least his next stop was more successful, 15,000 turnout.

Torplexed · 08-09-15, 12:44 PM

Hey! Welcome to Seattle Bernie!

Like what you see so far? Ain't we something? Just meekly stand back and let someone else run the event. A shout out to the boys in security for deciding to just sit back and watch the show rather than demonstrate some rarely seen Seattle bravado and take back the stage.

Yes, black lives matter. Camera-hungry publicity hounds, not so much.

Onkel Neal · 08-09-15, 01:17 PM

At least no one got shot!

Torplexed · 08-09-15, 01:26 PM

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At least no one got shot!

True and all good. But then it's difficult to aim properly through the green haze of marijuana smoke that hangs over the city these days.

Oberon · 08-09-15, 01:26 PM

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At least no one got shot!

...yet.

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Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Hey! Welcome to Seattle Bernie! Like what you see so far? Ain't we something? Just meekly stand back and let someone else run the event. A shout out to the boys in security for deciding to just sit back and watch the show rather than demonstrate some rarely seen Seattle bravado and take back the stage. Yes, black lives matter. Camera-hungry publicity hounds, not so much.