2016 US Presidential election thread

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

the Washington Post and the New York Times did not list her budget desires spells they must be for her, uh?

Five more days till the NY primary of which only democrats can vote for Bernie or Hillary ... should be the end of Bernie unless he wins of course.

Good point on not disclosing Hillary's budget. I suspect Hillary will win NY. She carpetbagged here way there after Bills tenure as President. Wall Street does not want to see Bernie. Bernie has not be shy advising Wall Street and big banks he castrate them.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Analyses of policy proposals from Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Donald Trump, and Bernie Sanders estimate that their
proposals would increase the national debt by about $8 to $30 trillion between 2016 and 2026.

According to information the Washington Post and the New York Times
recently published, this is how much each candidate would add to the debt:

Cruz – $10.2 trillion
Trump – $11.2 – $15 trillion
Sanders – $19 – $30 trillion

If it's our money why do they keep spending it?

We need someone that can tighten the belt, get America in shape and stop funding the rest of the world till we can truly be a great nation again.

Somebody has to pay the bills that the law makers keep running up

Interesting you should bring the up the matter of spending. Lost amid all the media bellowing about Trump and the GOP machinations is the fact most of the GOP's hot button topics are rather low on the list of general voters' concerns, general meaning all registered voters, not just DEM or GOP. According to a number of recent polls, the general consensus of registered voter concerns are:

1. The overall economy

2. Government Spending

3. Terrorism

4. Immigration

The usual GOP topics such as abortion, faith-based initiatives, gun rights, etc. are way down on the list of voter concerns. When the conventions are over and the parties have determined their candidates, both parties will be faced with having to provide answers and solutions to concerns neither is either willing or equipped to address. Aside from the whole "lesser of two evils" choice of candidates, there is also the issue of who those candidates will turn to in their administration to address the real concerns and how they will implement those policies. One thing the Great Recession has shown to the average American is abortion, faith-based initiatives, gun rights, etc. are not really important if you don't have a job, the money is no good, and the government is spending like a drunken sailor who has just got his pay packet. Given that the last three major recessions have come about due to economic policies, decisions and actions of the last three consecutive GOP White House occupants, the GOP has a very tough row to hoe in convincing voters their candidate won't make the score an even four...


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[vienna]

This article appeared today in The Los Angeles Times:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-n...423-story.html

If the reticence of major GOP donors to re-engage in their party's presidential election efforts is echoed throughout the rest of the nation, an already bizarre election year will only get even more so. The recent public acknowledgement that the two other GOP candidates are now forming an alliance to "game" the rest of the primary process to prevent Trump from gaining the necessary delegate votes to secure the GOP nomination is an action way beyond even the chaos of the 1968 DEM election troubles and I thought that election year would never be surpassed for strangeness. Just goes to show, if you live long enough, you stand a good chance of seeing something never imagined...


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[Onkel Neal]

They waited too long.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by vienna

Just goes to show, if you live long enough, you stand a good chance of seeing something never imagined...<O>

Wonder what would happen if Trump went independent due to foul play, and offered Bernie VP? Now that would cause a few aneurysms in DC.

Originally Posted by em2nought

Wonder what would happen if Trump went independent due to foul play, and offered Bernie VP? Now that would cause a few aneurysms in DC.

I should think that the chances of Sanders accepting a VP ticket from Trump are about as high as those of Trump converting to Islam. When watching a train wreck, it is generally not thought a good idea to jump aboard...

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

I should think that the chances of Sanders accepting a VP ticket from Trump are about as high as those of Trump converting to Islam. When watching a train wreck, it is generally not thought a good idea to jump aboard...

Only way to pay for all the stuff Bernie wants is if Trump is successful at creating a resurgent USA, so they could find some common ground actually.

Originally Posted by em2nought

Only way to pay for all the stuff Bernie wants is if Trump is successful at creating a resurgent USA, so they could find some common ground actually.

Ignoring for the moment the dubious premise that anything Trump proposes could cause a 'resurgent' anything, a Trump-Sanders ticket would stand no chance whatsoever of winning in the first place. How many of Trumps supporters would tolerate the idea of a self-proclaimed Socialist VP? And just how many of Sander's left-leaning supporters would contemplate supporting Trumps right-wing populist platform? You don't win elections by dumping most of your core support. Not only would standing with Trump involve Sanders ditching his entire political principles, but it would be political suicide. And regardless of what you think of Sander's politics, he clearly isn't an idiot.

[U505995]

It looks like it will be the crook Hillery vs loudmouth Trump Hillery will jump on any bandwagon that gets her the most votes. She proclaimed herself a feminist, did a 180 on gay marriage from 2008, voted in favor of invading Iraq, her whole email scandal ect... I could go on. Now she thinks that victims of gun violence should be able to sue the gun companies! While she's at it she should make it so we can sue breweries after drunk driving accidents. I don't like Trump either but if it came down to it I would vote Trump over that power hungry, scheming Hillery.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon U-48

It looks like it will be the crook Hillery vs loudmouth Trump Hillery will jump on any bandwagon that gets her the most votes. She proclaimed herself a feminist, did a 180 on gay marriage from 2008, voted in favor of invading Iraq, her whole email scandal ect... I could go on. Now she thinks that victims of gun violence should be able to sue the gun companies! While she's at it she should make it so we can sue breweries after drunk driving accidents. I don't like Trump either but if it came down to it I would vote Trump over that power hungry, scheming Hillery.

Ain't it grand!

[U505995]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Ain't it grand!

I might as well find a deserted island and make it my home. I'll kick up my feet, put the shades on, and watch the world burn.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Sea Demon U-48

I might as well find a deserted island and make it my home. I'll kick up my feet, put the shades on, and watch the world burn.

Well, every election always looks like gloom and doom. We carry on.

[Mr Quatro]

I'm not worried who the next President of the United States is ....
especially when he is sworn in on the same Holy Bible that President Obama was sworn in on.

When Nixon was President God was still God

If we have to wait four (4) more years for a better POTUS then so be it.

I will add one more thing ... "what a circus this has been and will continue to be"

[Rockin Robbins]

No presidential candidate can kill the economy any worse than Obama has. Our economy and our people are strong enough to withstand any bad president. I don't think any of them can do as much harm as their rivals say they can.

So you have to admit that this is the most entertaining race since Ross Perot tossed a monkey wrench into the works. But I'm not worried about who gets elected. I have my preferences, but whoever's President will be more along from the ride than driving the bus.

[Jimbuna]

Doesn't look like any candidate will change the economy etc. in a four year term. Pretty much like the choices we are faced with here in the UK.