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Old 06-02-09, 04:39 PM   #18
makman94
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Originally Posted by tmdgm View Post
oh yeah, the glanville freighter. that was wayy off. this may be a dumb question, but how do you set a mission up with that specific ship? i'm guessing there's a mission editor somewhere?
check in a minute my ff page.i will upload for you the mission i had use for the correction of the Granville freighter.play first the mission with the old values and then play it with the fixed ones(do what i told you at the post at sh3 mods workshop) and you will see how lovely this game can be!(PLEASE RUN ALSO THE GWX-ship bayoncy and draught mod by Rubini)

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Originally Posted by onelifecrisis View Post
I dunno about the mission but yeah, Granville used to be way off, along with the Empire Type Freighter. I assumed that those two, at least, would be fixed in GWX3 because their innacuracies were widely reported... but I've not checked them.

makman, if you say there are very many innacuracies then I believe you. I've never manually checked the ships in a modelling program. But I'd suggest that most of the discrepancies make little actual difference to... well, to anything. I said the ships measurements are mostly accurate because while playing (even in GWX 2.1) my experience was that most ships had data which was accurate enough to get a firing solution. There were exceptions (such as the two ships mentioned above) but generally I managed to hit my targets. Having said that, I would still love to see any inaccuracies corrected! But checking all the ships is a big job.
OLC, yes i agree with you that most of them are playable BUT i don't think that if i done everything right and get an aob of +-15 degrees is something that someone realy likes! most of the values are so so well ,at most of the ships the higher spot is something that is 'pixeling'....meaning showing and hiding and at last you don't even know ...what part of the ship had measure the person who had set these values for masts! the lengths are... out of discusion!they are from another planet...(Averoffs correct length is 185 and now is setted at 140)
I can't agree more with you how painfull this job is.you can't imagine how many hours i had spent for this subject but i can tell you ,for sure , this:if you play the game with the correct values you will simply....love it (aob's acuracy ,if you are very carefull can reach +-2 degrees)! i call everybody who really loves this game to start fixing all of them! not only gwx's ships but wac's also and nygm's too (i haven't play nygm and i don't know if it containes other ships than stock)
i will tell you what i do (suggestion) .i will start a new thread ,and i will write there the ships i had correct till now (in these corrections a had mark at .sils the spots of ship that had measured...like the .sil i had post at post 3 ,so everybody will know what part of ship to measure.sometimes is better to measure the funnel...like the medium cargo)
in that thread everybody who had a 'meet' with a 'problematic' ship can post his corrections.eventually some day all the ships will be fixed ....just hope this thread not to ....sink!

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Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
....and anyway the real exact dimensions of the ship were rarely known before the attack. Kaleuns had lots of practice in estimating target's length, heigth and also tonnage, plus getting under 1000 metres as they did whenever possible also reduced chances of missing it.

Oh, and another important thing: Real Kaleuns also missed shots, you know...
i really like a correct recognition manual Hitman.the game itselfs will make it difficult to had a good shot becuase the weather situations(where is the...waterline ...the mast is poping up and down...etc), day -night visibilities and tensions in battle are making harder to get your measurments...so inacuracy is always there! but imagine how useless it gets if you plus to all these an untrusted recogninion manual

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Besides that, who said the Lloyds Register didn't have any mistakes in thier records.
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