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Poland says missile deaths an unfortunate incident

Polish President Andrzej Duda has said there are no signs of an intentional attack after a missile strike killed two people on a farm near the western border with Ukraine.

Earlier, US President Joe Biden said it was "unlikely" the missile had been fired from Russia.

The two workers were killed as Ukraine came under fire from one of the biggest barrages of missile strikes of the war.

The Kremlin had insisted it had nothing to do with their deaths.

Poland said initially that the missile that had come down at Przewodow, 6km (4 miles) from the border, was Russian-made.

Accusing Western states of a hysterical reaction, Russian spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Warsaw should have immediately made clear the debris had come from Ukraine's S-300 air defences.

As Polish investigators searched the site of the strike, Nato ambassadors met in Brussels to assess how to react to Russia's war spilling over into a member state.

Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg told reporters there was no indication that the incident was a result of a deliberate attack or that Moscow was preparing offensive actions against the defensive alliance.

"Let me be clear, this is not Ukraine's fault," said the secretary general. "Russia bears ultimate responsibility as it continues its illegal war against Ukraine."

More than 90 Russian missiles were fired at Ukraine on Tuesday, according to Kyiv. Although the Ukrainian military said 77 were shot down, some of the missiles hit Lviv, not far from the country's western border with Poland.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said most of the rockets fired by Russian forces had been aimed at the country's energy infrastructure.

Poland's military was placed on high alert in the aftermath of the explosion.

On Wednesday, President Duda told a press conference that although a Russian-made S-300 missile was most likely to blame, there was no evidence it had been fired by the Russian side. Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki added that invoking Nato's Article 4, which calls for consultations in the face of a security threat, might not be necessary.

In a statement, Western leaders at the Bali summit condemned Russia's "barbaric missile attacks" on Ukraine's cities and civilian infrastructure and offered their full support to neighbouring Poland.

Among those attending were President Biden, UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, French President Emmanuel Macron and EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.

Ukraine's Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said earlier that any claim that Ukraine was responsible for Polish deaths was a Russian "conspiracy theory" and that anyone amplifying the message was spreading "Russian propaganda".

The BBC's Paul Adams said Ukraine's air defences had been working hard to bring down Russian missiles and it was possible that one of the missiles fired was knocked off course.

A police image from the Polish grain farm where the rocket landed showed a large crater and a farm trailer lying on its side, suggesting missile damage. Another image showed a fragment of a missile.

BBC reporter Dan Johnson said there was a small primary school beside a police cordon in the village, which is in an agricultural area of south-eastern Poland.

Despite lending support to Ukraine since Russia's invasion, Nato has been careful not to become too heavily involved in the conflict in order to prevent an escalation.

Lithuania's President Gitanas Nauseda called on Wednesday for Nato air space to be defended and said he would actively support deploying air defences on the Polish border with Ukraine, as well as the rest of Nato's eastern flank.

A German spokesman said Berlin would offer support to Poland's air defences, but all Nato allies were agreed they wanted to avoid further escalation

Nato Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said he had spoken to Polish President Duda and the military alliance was "monitoring the situation".

United Nations Secretary General António Guterres also said he was "very concerned" by the Poland explosion and called for a thorough investigation.

"It is absolutely essential to avoid escalating the war in Ukraine," said his spokesman, Farhan Haq.
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Czech Parliament recognized regime in Russian Federation as terrorist

The Parliament of the Czech Republic adopted a resolution in which it recognized the current Russian regime as terrorist.

This was reported by the Czech publication Novinky. cz, Censor.NET informs.

The lower house of the parliament called the current Russian regime terrorist. In particular, the deputies condemned the attacks on the civilian population of Ukraine and the country's key energy infrastructure. Also, the Parliament of the Czech Republic does not recognize the results of the so-called referendums on the accession to Russia of four occupied regions in the east of Ukraine.

129 out of 159 deputies present voted for the resolution. All 14 representatives of the "Freedom and Direct Democracy" movement, as well as some deputies from other factions, were against it.

"The Russian Federation absolutely does not respect people's basic rights, attacks key infrastructure, civilian objects, and tries to intimidate Ukrainian citizens and undermine the sovereignty of the state... This corresponds to terrorist methods," said Barbora Urbanova, a member of STAN. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380944

Erdogan insists on dialogue with Putin: otherwise "consequences will be limitless"

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned the world against isolating Russia, the occupier country, and reminded that "from the first day of the conflict, we declared that there are no winners in war, and there are no losers in peace."

He said this at a press conference on the sidelines of the G20 summit in Indonesia, Censor.NET reports with reference to Anadolu.

"What will be the consequences of isolating the Russian Federation?" the journalist asked Erdogan.

"The consequences will be limitless," Erdogan replied and assured that Turkey "makes every effort for peace, justice, and welfare in Ukraine."

He warned the world against the occupation of the Russian Federation and reminded that "from the first day of the conflict, we declared that there are no winners in war, and there are no losers in peace."

Erdogan also noted that he respects the Russian Federation's reaction to the fall of the missile on the territory of Poland.

"It is important for us that Russia has declared that it has nothing to do with this," the Turkish president said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380955

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Yesterday, Russians attacked Ukraine with 96 missiles, 75 of which were shot down by air defense. INFOGRAPHICS

According to detailed information, the Russian Federation massively attacked Ukraine with 96 missiles and attack drones.

This was reported by the Command of the Air Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Censor.NET reports.

On November 15, 2022, the invaders attacked Ukraine with 96 air and sea-based cruise missiles (Kh-101, Kh-555, Caliber), Kh-59 guided air missiles, Shahed-136/131, Orion attack drones ", "Orlan-10" ', the message says.

It is noted that the air defense forces shot down 75 cruise missiles (Kh-101, Kh-555, Kalibr), two guided air missiles Kh-59, 10 "Shahed-136/131", one unmanned aerial vehicle "Orion" and one "Orlan-10". Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380957

Lithuania calls for strengthening air defense on border of Poland and Ukraine and on entire eastern flank of NATO

NATO countries need to strengthen air defense on the Ukrainian-Polish border, as well as on the entire eastern flank of NATO.

This was stated by the President of Lithuania Gitanas Nauseda, Censor.NET reports with reference to DELFI.

"Lithuania will take an active part in the discussion, talking primarily about the deployment of air defense systems both on the border of Poland and Ukraine, and looking into the future with regard to the entire eastern flank of NATO," the leader said.

The Lithuanian president emphasized that his country is in complete solidarity with Poland. At the same time, he added that he spoke with Polish President Andrzej Duda. Nauseda announced Poland's intention to initiate consultations on Article 4 of NATO.

"We are ready to help in all possible ways, if necessary. The President of Poland gave me information about what happened last night, about the negotiations with the leaders of other countries. And he said that today Poland will apply for the activation of Article 4 of NATO," Nauseda added.

As reported, on November 15, during a massive missile attack on Ukraine, 2 missiles fell in Poland, killing 2 people. It became known that US intelligence confirmed the strike by Russian missiles on Poland. In turn, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation called the information about the fall of Russian missiles in Poland "a deliberate provocation for the purpose of escalation." The United States, Estonia, and Lithuania have declared their readiness to defend every inch of NATO territory. Latvia, the Czech Republic, and Ukraine also joined their statements.

On the same day, at an extraordinary meeting on the evening of November 15, the Polish government decided to increase the army's combat readiness. NATO Secretary General Jens noted that NATO is monitoring the situation in Poland. In addition, on November 16, Stoltenberg will gather the ambassadors of the alliance member countries for an emergency meeting to discuss the events in Poland.

Later it became known that the President of Poland Andrzej Duda discussed the explosions in Poland with Stoltenberg and Biden and is convening the National Security Council.

It was also reported that due to the fall of missiles on the territory of Poland, the President of the European Council, Charles Michel, will initiate a coordination meeting with the leaders of the member states of the European Union, who are currently participating in the G20 summit in Bali.

On the night of November 16, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Poland emphasized that a Russian-made missile fell on the territory of Poland. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380965

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Sunak about missile in Poland: This would not have happened if it were not for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

Prime Minister of Great Britain Rishi Sunak said that there would not have been any missile attacks on Poland if it were not for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the EP.

According to him, "none of this would have happened if it were not for Russia's invasion of Ukraine" and "this is the cruel and relentless reality of Putin's war."

"As long as it continues, it poses a threat to our security and the security of our allies. And as long as it continues, it will continue to devastate the world economy," Sunak said.

He added that there is "not a single person in the world" who would not feel the impact of Putin's war, and that world food markets have been seriously disrupted by his attempts to cut off supplies of Ukrainian grain.

"Putin's contempt for human life will be felt throughout the world for many years to come," he said.

Asked whether the strikes in Poland showed how quickly war can escalate, he added that it could lead to an escalation of the conflict: "Poland is a loyal ally of the United Kingdom and I would like to personally assure that we stand firmly with by her and her people at this time."

Speaking about whether Britain could be drawn into a war with Russia, he said it was important to "establish the facts". Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380971

Missile attack on Poland would not have happened if Russian Federation had not waged aggressive war against Ukraine, - Scholz

The circumstances of the missile attack on Polish territory should be thoroughly investigated, but it is already clear that this would not have happened if the Russian Federation had not waged an aggressive war against Ukraine.

Federal Chancellor Olaf Scholz reported this on Twitter, Censor.NET reports.

"The terrible missile strike in Poland must be thoroughly investigated. It is good that NATO members are gathering to do it quickly," he said.

According to Scholz, at this point, any premature conclusions are "out of the question."

"One thing is clear: none of this would have happened without Russia's aggressive war against Ukraine," he concluded. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380976

Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Poland on missile incident: This is consequence of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

The Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland, Pawel Jablonski, called the incident with rockets in the Polish border village a consequence of Russia’s attack on Ukraine and urged not to rush to conclusions about whose rocket it was.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the EP.

"For the first time since the beginning of the war, we faced the consequences of Russia's attack on Ukraine. We assumed that this could happen, and yesterday it happened," the deputy head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs noted.

Commenting on media reports that a Ukrainian air defense missile could have fallen on the territory of Poland, Yablonsky urged not to rush to any conclusions.

"I would like to ask everyone to be a little patient. There are various assumptions. What appears in the media is not always confirmed in the end. Maybe today, maybe later, when the time comes, we will officially release the information...It is necessary to be very careful with attempts at disinformation because, since the beginning of the aggression against Ukraine, the Russians have been very actively working in this direction," he explained.

When asked why the Polish military could not intercept the missile, the minister noted that no air defense and anti-missile defense systems provide 100% protection and it is impossible to guarantee "close the sky" over the entire territory of the country, so the priorities are strategic objects.

The deputy head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs urged not to believe the narrative that NATO would avoid intervention even in the event of a deliberate attack on Poland, calling it an attempt by Russia to disinformation and change public sentiments regarding support for Ukraine.

Yablonsky was also asked whether Warsaw would allow the expulsion of Russian Ambassador Sergey Andreyev, who was summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs on November 15 in connection with the incident. He replied that it could potentially happen, but there must be good reasons for such a decision.

"In diplomacy, sometimes you have to maintain contacts not only with people you like, but also with representatives of unfriendly countries," he said, adding that Poland is trying to maintain contacts with Russia. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3380983

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NATO will not close sky over Ukraine after incident with missile in Poland, - spokesman of government of Germany

Germany and NATO partners are not considering the possibility of introducing a no-fly zone over Ukraine after the fall of the missile in Poland.

This was reported by the spokesman of the German government, Censor.NET reports with reference to The Guardian.

According to him, this will create a threat of direct confrontation between Russia and NATO.

"Together with all our allies, we agreed that we want to avoid further escalation of this war in Ukraine," he said.

Polish President Andrzej Duda said there were "no signs" that the missile that fell in Poland on Tuesday was a "deliberate strike" on the country. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3381027

Germany updated list of aid to Ukraine: it handed over shells for MARS II MLRS, tractors and machine guns

The German government has updated the list of military aid given to Ukraine. It included, in particular, shells for MARS II MLRS, M1070 Oshkosh heavy tractors and MG3 machine guns for armored recovery vehicles.

The full list of aid provided during the week is published on the website of the German government, Censor.NET informs.

In addition, Germany additionally transferred to Ukraine:

three M1070 Oshkosh tank tractors;
17 border cars;
spare parts for the M2 large-caliber machine gun;
24 MG3 for armored repair and evacuation vehicles;
116 mobile heating systems;
10 anti-drone sensors and silencers;
20 frequency band extensions for drone protection devices;
one loader. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3381038

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NATO: Missile most likely from Ukraine.

Gave me some thoughts when reading it in one of our newspaper.

Was it a mistake ?
Was it on purpose-Trying to drag Poland into the war ?

I say it was a mistake-The other would backfire for the Ukrainian and they know it.

Markus

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Hypothesis about fall of Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile on Poland does not change essence, Russia is responsible, - Italian Prime Minister Meloni

The head of the Italian government, Giorgia Meloni, said that Russia is responsible for the fact that on November 15, a missile fell on the territory of Poland.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to Ukrinform.

"This morning, against the background of the news from Poland, we asked for information, met and consulted with our allies. The hypothesis that a Ukrainian anti-aircraft missile fell on Poland does not change the fact, since, in our opinion, the responsibility for what happened is fully borne Russia," she said.

She also added that Italy, along with its allies, condemned Moscow's missile attacks.

Polish President Andrzej Duda said there were "no signs" that the missile that fell in Poland on Tuesday was a "deliberate strike" on the country. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3381050

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Incident with missile will not harm relations between Ukraine and NATO, - Ambassador of Estonia to Alliance Luik

Even if the missile that struck Poland on Tuesday afternoon was fired by Ukraine, in any case the real culprit of the incident is Russia, which is waging a war of aggression, and therefore this incident will not harm relations between Ukraine and NATO.

This was stated by the Ambassador of Estonia to the Alliance Yuriy Luik, Censor.NET reports with reference to European Pravda.

"We still don't know exactly where it was launched from. But even if it is an accidental missile related to Ukraine's struggle against the Russian occupiers and against the flurry of missiles launched yesterday by the Russian side, it is clear that it was launched due to an accident or a technical error , and this will in no way harm relations between NATO countries and Ukraine," Luik said.

"As it was said, the provision of assistance to Ukraine will be continued in full, and, of course, the more we send to Ukraine high-quality Western air defense equipment, the more effective Ukraine will be in its actions to destroy Russian missiles," the ambassador added after the meeting of the North Atlantic Council, on to whom the incident was discussed.

According to Luik, the investigation is still ongoing, and it is too early to make final decisions. "It is clear that this is an accidental incident and not a deliberate attack on NATO territory," he said.

Also, according to Luik, it is known for sure that this is a Russian-made missile, but from where exactly it was launched remains to be found out.

"The final certainty will come when the results of the investigation are received," the ambassador said. scale or even more. So in that sense, the conclusions that were reached at this meeting were very correct and relevant."

"It is also clear that whoever owned this missile, the culprit is Russia with its full-scale aggression against Ukraine," added Luik. regardless of who it belongs to."

According to the ambassador, all NATO countries are convinced that this was an accidental incident and there is no risk that it will be followed by a larger-scale attack, therefore it was not considered necessary to invoke the 4th article of the North Atlantic Treaty, which provides for consultations with other members of the Alliance.

"Of course, that doesn't mean that there won't be further consultations throughout today and tomorrow. I also believe that a conclusion will be reached fairly quickly as to where and by whom this missile was fired from. I don't think this investigation will take long", - added Luyk.

When asked whether NATO plans to protect a certain part of the airspace of Western Ukraine so that no Russian or anyone else's missile could land on the territory of NATO countries, Luyk replied that there are currently no such plans.

"Currently, there are no plans that are directly related to any NATO steps on the territory of Ukraine," Luik said.

Polish President Andrzej Duda said there were "no signs" that the missile that fell in Poland on Tuesday was a "deliberate strike" on the country. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3381057

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Austin opened seventh session in Rammstein format: Russia’s brutality only strengthens our resolve

About 50 member countries of the Contact Group on the Defense of Ukraine are ready to continue their efforts to support the Ukrainian state against the backdrop of continued Russian brutal attacks on civilian cities.

This was stated by Pentagon chief Lloyd Austin during the opening of the seventh meeting in the Rammstein format, Censor.NET reports with reference to Ukrinform.

"While Russia continues to target Ukrainian civilians, as well as energy infrastructure, nations of good will continue to support Ukraine. And Russia's brutality only strengthens their resolve," the Pentagon chief emphasized.

In this regard, Austin confirmed the US position, expressed earlier by President Biden, that the United States will support Ukraine as long as it is needed.

He also noted that thanks to the efforts of many members of the Contact Group, who do not stop making their contributions, Ukrainian defenders are getting more and more important defense opportunities. In this context, he noted the use of NASAMS anti-aircraft systems by the Ukrainian forces, which "ensured 100 percent success in intercepting Russian missiles," including during yesterday's attack.

"Russia (on Tuesday. - Ed.) carried out a missile attack on Ukrainian cities and people, and yesterday we saw reports of a deadly explosion in Poland, not far from the border with Ukraine," Austin recalled.

He emphasized that the US will continue to work closely with Poland and other countries to gather more information. He also noted that consultations with NATO countries will continue in this context.

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Originally Posted by mapuc

NATO: Missile most likely from Ukraine.

Gave me some thoughts when reading it in one of our newspaper.

Was it a mistake ?
Was it on purpose-Trying to drag Poland into the war ?

I say it was a mistake-The other would backfire for the Ukrainian and they know it.

Markus

They fire most missiles from Belarus and Black Sea they all fly over Ukraine if anti-air systems does not destroy Russian missile but bump it into another course it will look like a missile from Ukraine, but it is still a Russian missile NATO is playing this down they do not want to escalate. Ukraine’s military has informed the U.S. and its allies that it tried to intercept a Russian missile near and during the timeframe of the missile strike in Poland on Nov. 15.

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