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Front Runner · 05-15-23, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

OK fellers, try this little "test" mod:

TestCommands.7z

It changes the <Ctrl><N> for "Follow Nearest Warship" to a <Ctrl><H> combo, which was the easiest way to go. That leaves the <Ctrl><N> as "Re-set Weather" only... and it is a rather stark "re-set" indeed... wowsers.

Thanks for your very quick fix!

propbeanie · 05-15-23, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by flaminus

Thanks

and the meaning of "For the next release, we might have relief for that aspect of it" is to remove APR-1 from the game? or it would become a optional addin mod?

It will automatically be on the boat at relatively appropriate times for each of the boats, but it will be controllable. The APR-1 suite was part of the SD Radar suite of equipment, so you can turn it on and off with the SD, and avoid issues with both.

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Originally Posted by Front Runner

Thanks for your very quick fix!

If I didn't include the images for the Front/Back sheets, those will be in the next release. Thanks to you for helping find another "issue" with this strange game that we all love, and love to hate...

Wolfcat · 05-15-23, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

The player sub detecting the already running torpedo does make sense, especially with this game... Each plane though - in theory - can only 'drop' one. I have not looked into the animation involved, but it might be that the torpedo isn't actually dropped from the plane itself.

You misunderstood me. I saw the Jill drop a torpedo, and then it flew past me. So on my sonar, there were two contacts. One with the dropped torpedo in the water right in front of me and the other with the plane, which just flew past me. That's what I meant. If a Jill can only carry one torpedo then the problem becomes torpedo bomber can be detected on sonar regardless if they are carrying a torpedo or not. But I cannot confirm this at this moment. I have to test it. But a running torpedo, whether in air or in water, can be detected for sure.

torpedobait · 05-15-23, 10:30 AM

[QUOTE=propbeanie;2867783]The player sub detecting the already running torpedo does make sense, especially with this game... Each plane though - in theory - can only 'drop' one. I have not looked into the animation involved, but it might be that the torpedo isn't actually dropped from the plane itself./QUOTE]

I can't say that I've ever checked if the torpedo appears to be attached to the plane, but I can say that I have observed the splash it makes when it hits the water. And using an underwater view, I have seen the torpedo as it bores in on my boat.

propbeanie · 05-15-23, 01:53 PM

One thing to remember about most games, is that it is all illusion... lol - so you "see" a torpedo, but it is just artwork. The "drop" of the torpedo is just an animation sequence, and a torpedo is "spawned" with the contact with the "water", but the plane still carries its original torpedo, though the plane is now restricted (hopefully) from dropping another by the configuration of the plane. That is why you hear the one in the water, but also (apparently) the one still in the plane...

I once again present:

KaleunMarco · 05-15-23, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

One thing to remember about most games, is that it is all illusion... lol - so you "see" a torpedo, but it is just artwork. The "drop" of the torpedo is just an animation sequence, and a torpedo is "spawned" with the contact with the "water", but the plane still carries its original torpedo, though the plane is now restricted (hopefully) from dropping another by the configuration of the plane. That is why you hear the one in the water, but also (apparently) the one still in the plane...

I once again present:

So…the torpedo is a “sticky”?

propbeanie · 05-15-23, 02:42 PM

... with the tassels, yes...

KaleunMarco · 05-15-23, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

... with the tassels, yes...

Kal_Maximus_U669 · 05-18-23, 12:02 PM

Beanie...Kaleun Marco..s7rikeback...help

I shoot at 3m.. here is what it gives with the wake.. the wake even appears at the back in an infinite length..
...screen

I shoot at 5m no wake.. I've never had that... what a "MdR"...
Help Guys...

I already consult "Wake_Torp.tga".. can you tell me more

In mod KsDII

propbeanie · 05-18-23, 01:03 PM

Uhhh... no - Looks like an S-Boat though. What is the mod load-out, date and location of what happened please? Did the torpedo end up being a circle-runner? Was it a Mark 10 that you shot, or maybe did it look more like one of the German torpedoes, with a red nose? I do a test run right now

Edit 1325: This is what I see, and this is the same for all of the boats, and is an SH4 thing:

When you initially launch, it shows behind the player boat, but soon is just by the torpedo, as can be seen between the 1st torpedo and the 2nd. I had the same with the S-Boat when doing this. My wake is not displaced to the side, and does not leave a bubble-trail like that, so I am guessing you have a mod added, and it is probably still following the Stock game's example of wake placement. The S-Boat is smaller though, so the difference between it and a Gato is quite significant in both width and length... ??

Kal_Maximus_U669 · 05-18-23, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

Uhhh... no - Looks like an S-Boat though. What is the mod load-out, date and location of what happened please? Did the torpedo end up being a circle-runner? Was it a Mark 10 that you shot, or maybe did it look more like one of the German torpedoes, with a red nose? I do a test run right now

Edit 1325: This is what I see, and this is the same for all of the boats, and is an SH4 thing:

When you initially launch, it shows behind the player boat, but soon is just by the torpedo, as can be seen between the 1st torpedo and the 2nd. I had the same with the S-Boat when doing this. My wake is not displaced to the side, and does not leave a bubble-trail like that, so I am guessing you have a mod added, and it is probably still following the Stock game's example of wake placement. The S-Boat is smaller though, so the difference between it and a Gato is quite significant in both width and length... ??

Thank you Beanie for the up...and my best regards to the whole team that animates here I invite you to change lanes because it's about the
SH4 Knights of the Sea Depths II mods as well as KSDII ace of the deep... Your FoTrS mods are impeccable... BH's ok...
I posted here in order to bring together the best experts as quickly as possible... I wouldn't want to pollute your file...

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Front Runner · 05-19-23, 11:54 AM

Starting a new career. Here is my current MOD list. How does it look?

propbeanie · 05-19-23, 01:01 PM

That should be a good list Front Runner, but you could drop the 802_TMO_torp_tex_FotRSU, unless you just like the colors. The jimimadrid torp textures are in the v1.8 version, and are very nice. But no harm in using that one for the TMO colors.

KaleunMarco · 05-19-23, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

That should be a good list Front Runner, but you could drop the 802_TMO_torp_tex_FotRSU, unless you just like the colors. The jimimadrid torp textures are in the v1.8 version, and are very nice. But no harm in using that one for the TMO colors.

i was going to ask frontrunner about that mod but i thought i would wait for you to weigh in on it. i assume that you created it specifically for FOTRSU prior to jimi's torpedo mod?

Front Runner · 05-19-23, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by propbeanie

That should be a good list Front Runner, but you could drop the 802_TMO_torp_tex_FotRSU, unless you just like the colors. The jimimadrid torp textures are in the v1.8 version, and are very nice. But no harm in using that one for the TMO colors.

I like jimimadrid torp textures!

05-15-23, 10:30 AM	#5479
torpedobait Ace of the Deep Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,057 Downloads: 397 Uploads: 0	[QUOTE=propbeanie;2867783]The player sub detecting the already running torpedo does make sense, especially with this game... Each plane though - in theory - can only 'drop' one. I have not looked into the animation involved, but it might be that the torpedo isn't actually dropped from the plane itself./QUOTE] I can't say that I've ever checked if the torpedo appears to be attached to the plane, but I can say that I have observed the splash it makes when it hits the water. And using an underwater view, I have seen the torpedo as it bores in on my boat. __________________ Run Silent, Run Deep, and Sink 'em All

05-15-23, 01:53 PM	#5480
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,743 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	One thing to remember about most games, is that it is all illusion... lol - so you "see" a torpedo, but it is just artwork. The "drop" of the torpedo is just an animation sequence, and a torpedo is "spawned" with the contact with the "water", but the plane still carries its original torpedo, though the plane is now restricted (hopefully) from dropping another by the configuration of the plane. That is why you hear the one in the water, but also (apparently) the one still in the plane... I once again present: __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

05-15-23, 02:42 PM	#5482
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,743 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	... with the tassels, yes... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

05-18-23, 12:02 PM	#5484
Kal_Maximus_U669 Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: France Nord East Posts: 1,637 Downloads: 815 Uploads: 0	"Wtf" problem wake torpilles Beanie...Kaleun Marco..s7rikeback...help I shoot at 3m.. here is what it gives with the wake.. the wake even appears at the back in an infinite length.. ...screen I shoot at 5m no wake.. I've never had that... what a "MdR"... Help Guys... I already consult "Wake_Torp.tga".. can you tell me more In mod KsDII

05-18-23, 01:03 PM	#5485
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,743 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	Uhhh... no - Looks like an S-Boat though. What is the mod load-out, date and location of what happened please? Did the torpedo end up being a circle-runner? Was it a Mark 10 that you shot, or maybe did it look more like one of the German torpedoes, with a red nose? I do a test run right now Edit 1325: This is what I see, and this is the same for all of the boats, and is an SH4 thing: When you initially launch, it shows behind the player boat, but soon is just by the torpedo, as can be seen between the 1st torpedo and the 2nd. I had the same with the S-Boat when doing this. My wake is not displaced to the side, and does not leave a bubble-trail like that, so I am guessing you have a mod added, and it is probably still following the Stock game's example of wake placement. The S-Boat is smaller though, so the difference between it and a Gato is quite significant in both width and length... ?? __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna Last edited by propbeanie; 05-18-23 at 01:30 PM.

05-19-23, 11:54 AM	#5487
Front Runner Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The FREE State of FLORIDA Posts: 399 Downloads: 215 Uploads: 0	Starting a new career. MOD LIST Starting a new career. Here is my current MOD list. How does it look? __________________ "It is well war is so terrible, lest we should grow too fond of it" - C.S.A. General Robert E. Lee "Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato Gone but not forgotten, RIP Dave "LeoVampire".

05-19-23, 01:01 PM	#5488
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,743 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	That should be a good list Front Runner, but you could drop the 802_TMO_torp_tex_FotRSU, unless you just like the colors. The jimimadrid torp textures are in the v1.8 version, and are very nice. But no harm in using that one for the TMO colors. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna