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Old 09-30-20, 10:44 AM   #196
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Had an afternoon to myself so watched it again and I'll readily admit the more I see it the more I like it.
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Old 09-30-20, 11:08 AM   #197
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Had an afternoon to myself so watched it again and I'll readily admit the more I see it the more I like it.
To each their own I suppose. As I pointed out in my meager critique post (#151): I go to movies to be entertained-and was; and Das Boot and The Enemy Below need not worry...really, only the radio harassment by kaleuns was most flawed...they should have used an Axis Sally or Lord Haw Haw for that
Implausible scenario. I'll watch it again I'm sure.
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Old 10-18-20, 07:31 PM   #198
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The main oddity of the film is how it portrayed the U-boats as having some personnel vendetta against Greyhound to the extent that they all ultimately revealed their own positions, in trying to sink Greyhound, where realistically they would have used their inherent stealth to avoid the escorts and sneak into the convoy. At this point in the war, escorts by and large still had an extremely hard time even 'generalizing' the location of submerged U-boats.
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Good movie, but obviously dramatized. An elegy to the War in the Atlantic for the Playstation Generation.


I think Tom Hank's age really helped him in this role and didn't really detract (people now days just look younger), but I think his best work was in depicting Mr. Roger's. His acting here is just perfunctory.
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Actually that is exactly how Günther Prien and Otto Kretschmer lost their U Boats. U Boat commanders were not nearly as afraid of surface conflict as their allied counterparts. Granted, they would dive to avoid the escorts when needed but would often resurface to reengage the convoy. During night attacks it was much harder to find them on the surface than submerged where ASDIC could be used.

This even works out in Silent Hunter IV with American boats. I've had situations where it was safer to slip past a Japanese coastal patrol on the surface rather than submerged
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Old 06-17-21, 02:06 PM   #201
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too me this movie was like watching the new movie midway i just cant get into it
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Fwiw, from what I've learned over time, Kretschmer lost his boat when an officer ordered a dive when in Kretschmer's mind, he shouldn't have, allowing them to get picked up via asdic. Kretschmer believing the escort wouldn't have seen them if they'd stayed surfaced, and he could have slipped away into the night. As it turned out, he was right; the British ship "Walker" had not seen U-99.

Kretschmer never forgave said officer for that order.

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Shouldn’t Kretschmer have been giving the orders? Or was it a case of not being able to countermand them in time?
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Shouldn’t Kretschmer have been giving the orders? Or was it a case of not being able to countermand them in time?
Not necessarily. I.e., standard sailors on watch wouldn't/couldn't/shouldn't wait for the skipper's order to crash dive upon spotting an airplane. But maybe so (your point), not sure.
In terms of a countermand, guess not. Once picked up on asdic at close quarters, surfacing wouldn't have been an option anyway.
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Old 09-18-21, 11:52 AM   #204
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He was below and the order was given before he was aware of the situation as I understand events.
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He was below and the order was given before he was aware of the situation as I understand events.
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He was below and the order was given before he was aware of the situation as I understand events.
He warn't called 'Silent Otto' fer nuthin'! I Came across this easy to read site for all the novice bilgerats to conveniently absorb! https://naval-encyclopedia.com/battl...e-atlantic.php
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I see. I wonder if strong words were exchanged in the aftermath. Things like this are why I’d prefer a job working alone. 🤔
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Here's the U-99 Interrogation post sinking. It gives all the details:

https://web.archive.org/web/20121219...et/U-99INT.htm
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Here's the U-99 Interrogation post sinking. It gives all the details:

https://web.archive.org/web/20121219...et/U-99INT.htm



Good read, thanks !
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Despite the thread topic, I won't comment on "Greyhound", as everything has been said already and I agree with the majority of comments.


I too found "The Cruel Sea" to be exceptional and enjoyed the part where the U-boat was hiding under the men in the water and the decision made to attack. You don't find too many films these days that deal with the hard realities of war, unfortunately.


Another decent, somewhat obscure and hard to find film is "Of Sharks and Little Fish". It portrays a sailor's life in the Kriegsmarine aboard ship and later transferred to U-boats. I understand from those more knowledgeable than I, it is a pretty accurate depiction of what life was really like for the average sailor onboard.
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