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Old 07-28-22, 01:15 PM   #5296
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They (Turkey) also want to remain a NATO member and join the EU....spin a coin.
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Old 07-28-22, 01:22 PM   #5297
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You're right Jim would be a lot speculation.

Have read this a few second ago in a Danish news paper.



It made me laugh when I read it.

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If this would happen on large scale, oil price will drop result will be Russia will have to sell more below market price to Saudi Arabia in the end Putin will lose more money.
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They (Turkey) also want to remain a NATO member and join the EU....spin a coin.
Joining the EU they will never with Erdoğan in power.
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Old 07-28-22, 01:34 PM   #5299
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If this would happen on large scale, oil price will drop result will be Russia will have to sell more below market price to Saudi Arabia in the end Putin will lose more money.
I wasn't thinking in those terms I was thinking this is hilarious EU has sanctioned Russian oil and then EU buy it via Saudi-Arabia.

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Joining the EU they will never with Erdoğan in power.
And not without him either.
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Oooops, that did not last long. Spiegel reports that first systems of the German PZH2000s already are so worn out that they need a break for repairs and maintenance.

Not really a good advertising, assuming that the reason is no misuse by the crews.


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And Die Welt writes this:

The Bundeswehr assumes that the problems are related to the high rate of fire at which the Ukrainian forces use the guns in the fight against the Russian invaders; this puts enormous strain on the howitzer's loading mechanism. In the German army, even 100 rounds per day is considered high-intensity use, but the Ukrainians apparently fired far more shells. In addition, the soldiers at the front are said to have initially tried to fire special ammunition at too great a range.

100 rounds per day with a system like this - "high intensity" ? I am underwhelmed. What did they think they were up against if the cold war 1.0 would have turned hot?

It gets also reported that the ammo produced in Norway for the Gepards delivered to the ukraine, causes probelms. The Gepards do not recognise it, it cannot be loaded. Soldiers learning this in battle will cheer and applaude.

Tip of the day: next time test the stuff before making statements and delivering stuff.

I must admit: both problems are typical for the German way of doing things these days. Endless tinme con suming procedures, monumental planning lousy execution. Infrastructure, rail, monumental landmark buildings, its always the same and costly and enduring mess. We have currently tow census running, and both have problems with the software, becasue they did not realistically test it. One of the census (what the plural of "census"...? ) is at risk of getting shut down, with all money wasted, the other will likely be extended over time.

The Germans simply cant do things anymore they once were hailed, feared and/or admired for: effectively organizing.
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And not without him either.
True that
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China has not funded any new infrastructure projects in Russia for months as Beijing focuses its attention on preventing a financial crisis at home.

Financing and investment through the Chinese Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) fell to $28.4bn (£23.6bn) over the first half of 2022, down from $29.4bn during the same period last year, according to a study by the Green Finance & Development Center at Shanghai’s Fudan University.

No money went to new projects in Russia, Sri Lanka or Egypt, all of which had previously been key beneficiaries of Chinese spending. The lack of engagement with Russia suggests Chinese businesses may be afraid of falling victim to secondary sanctions introduced against Moscow over the invasion of Ukraine, and comes despite the pair insisting that their friendship had "no limits" shortly before the war began.
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VDL Russia strategy backfires as EU energy plan financing Putin war with 'much more money'

European Commission President Ursula Von der Leyen's energy plan - meant to counter dwindling Russian gas deliveries - falls short of the EU's aim of reducing Vladimir Putin's war chest, the New York Times' Europe Chief Diplomatic Correspondent Steven Erlanger says. As Russian-state gas giant Gazprom has steadily dropped gas flows through the Nord Stream 1 pipeline, the EU has reached an agreement to reduce its gas consumption by 15 percent for the upcoming winter. But as Russian gas exports have dipped to a 20 percent record low via the Nord Stream 1 pipeline, gas prices have risen, meaning Europeans will pay more expensive gas for fewer quantities.

Mr Erlanger told Times Radio: "The European Union has tried to pull together a plan to reduce gas use, gas consumption because it's been in general 40 percent dependent on Russia for gas.
"The biggest country involved, as you known is Germany. But Germany's managed to cut its dependency already from 55 percent to about 30 percent.

"But the big game everywhere is filling up the tanks preparing for winter.

"And Russia is being very clever about this because it's reducing its gas supplies. But with gas prices so high, it's making much more money from even that reduction.

"So, the financing of the war goes on just fine."

"But Russia's pushing on Europe, hoping it can divide people from their government, get people very angry and undermine the sense of solidarity about Ukraine.

"That seems to be the game. As you say, it's pretty obvious but that seems. But it's happening despite its best efforts."

However, Mr Erlanger pointed out that this strategy cannot work indefinitely, as EU countries are finding alternative supplies and Russia will eventually lose one of its most important clients - and the bulk of its revenue from gas and energy.

"Also, people are moving, as we all know, too much more sustainable energy that's permanent, more wind farms, etc." Mr Erlanger said.

To make up for that potential loss, Mr Erlanger added, Russia is turning towards other potential clients such as China and India.

"But for the moment, it works Russia's way pretty well. But in the long run, it will put Russia in deep trouble.

"It will have to shift markets. And that's not so easy, as I say, with gas because you need pipelines."

The possibility for the EU to trigger a compulsory 15 percent cap on gas consumption has been a point of discord among some European countries.



Spain and Portugal, which have little connection to the EU's gas pipeline network, have expressed reservations about imposing mandatory gas reductions.

Greece also said the plan would be too much of a burden on its economy and citizens.

Hungary, which still imports 80 percent of its gas from Russia, questioned "the legal basis" of a proposal that "decides how much member states can consume from which supplier."
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Western sanctions against Russia are the most ill-conceived and counterproductive policy in recent international history. Military aid to Ukraine is justified, but the economic war is ineffective against the regime in Moscow, and devastating for its unintended targets. World energy prices are rocketing, inflation is soaring, supply chains are chaotic and millions are being starved of gas, grain and fertiliser. Yet Vladimir Putin’s barbarity only escalates – as does his hold over his own people.
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sanctions were sold to the West on the basis that it would crater Russia's economy and be painless to western consumers. That turned out to be the "Big Lie". Russia is making more money now from Oil and Gas sales and sanctions are pushing North America and Europe into recession.

Pretty obvious that the US and EU are about to drop Ukraine like a hot potato. That is why you are seeing more and more of these types of articles popping up "preparing" the public for a policy shift.
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Truss promises increased military aid to Ukraine if she becomes British prime minister

British Foreign Minister Liz Truss has announced an increased military and humanitarian aid to Ukraine if she becomes the country's prime minister.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to Reuters.

She also intends to make her first call in her new position to the President of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky.

"As Prime Minister, I will be Ukraine's best friend, follow in Boris Johnson's footsteps, and fully commit to ensuring that Putin fails in Ukraine and suffers a strategic defeat," Truss said.

According to her, the war in Ukraine is far from over and now is not the time to think about concessions and compromises with the President of the Russian Federation.

Truss is leading in opinion polls among members of the Conservative Party, who have to decide who will become the next prime minister of Great Britain.
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