Gun Control thread (merged many)

Buddahaid · 09-11-21, 01:14 PM

I never seriously felt like owning a firearm until the Patriot Act was enacted twenty years ago. I had plenty of air guns to play with but just didn't need a gun. The reason was I felt the government was stomping on constitutional rights so I exercised one to thumb my nose at Congress.

les green01 · 09-16-21, 10:34 PM

i pack all the time i c&c in the city but most times here i open carry,i feel better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it

Arlo · 09-16-21, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by les green01

i pack all the time i c&c in the city but most times here i open carry,i feel better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it

Sometimes it involves wanting it more than needing it (maybe a tad too much). Never-the-less 'needing it' often involves failed situational awareness.

Sean C · 09-16-21, 11:43 PM

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Never-the-less 'needing it' often involves failed situational awareness.

The same could be said about seat belts, but most people choose to use them.

Arlo · 09-17-21, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean C

The same could be said about seat belts, but most people choose to use them.

Rather non-sequitur. But I'm used to that, by now.

August · 09-19-21, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I never seriously felt like owning a firearm until the Patriot Act was enacted twenty years ago. I had plenty of air guns to play with but just didn't need a gun. The reason was I felt the government was stomping on constitutional rights so I exercised one to thumb my nose at Congress.

The best reason for owning a firearm is because the government doesn't want you to have one.

Onkel Neal · 10-10-23, 08:33 AM

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Gun control in Israel is relatively strict, and firearm licenses are generally only granted to those who can show a need for extra security in their line of work or daily life. Meaning, one of the key criteria for a private citizen to receive permission to own a gun is where they live.

“I support the citizen and the individual over government elitists,” Yoel Israel, CEO of a digital marketing agency said. “I care about human rights and people’s lives. Guns are the great equalizer. Why is my wife afraid, and I keep only a golf club near my bed? It doesn’t make sense.”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-ham...other%20things.

I know it's not an immediate problem, but with the huge influx of illegals (millions), we will be dealing with the cartel and a corrupt local govt soon, I'm damn glad I don't just have a golf club to fight back with.

em2nought · 10-10-23, 09:26 AM

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-ham...other%20things.

I know it's not an immediate problem, but with the huge influx of illegals (millions), we will be dealing with the cartel and a corrupt local govt soon, I'm damn glad I don't just have a golf club to fight back with.

I'm thinking they might get their own 2nd amendment now in Israel. I thought they were like Switzerland with all the reservists having their firearms at home, but I guess not. Ha, since 2007 the Swiss get to keep their rifles at home, but no ammunition.

I do like the sound of Israeli building codes now requiring a panic room in each house. We could use a panic/tornado/hurricane room in our building codes.

Ostfriese · 10-10-23, 09:29 AM

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Ha, since 2007 the Swiss get to keep their rifles at home, but no ammunition.

That's not correct.

em2nought · 10-10-23, 09:37 AM

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That's not correct.

Looks like it's partly correct. They don't have a box of gov't provided ammo at home anymore, but they can buy their own?
https://www.arizonarifleman.com/2015...-ammo-at-home/

Ostfriese · 10-10-23, 09:58 AM

If you want ammo at home in Switzerland you have to buy it yourself, there's usually no restriction as long as you are a Swiss citizen and have a clean record, and you must own a weapon that actually fires the ammunition you want to purchase.
There are some restrictions for foreigners depending on where they are from (for example, Serbs, Bosnians, Kosovans, Macedonians, Turks, Sri Lankans, Algerians and Albanians are explicitly forbidden from owning, storing, carrying and/or buying any weapon or ammo).

During military exercises Swiss soldiers and milita people receive ammo for their weapons, but must return any unspent ammo after the exercise.

At shooting ranges you can buy ammo at reduced prices, and you can take unfired ammo home with you if you are at least 18 years old. However, you cannot buy large amounts there, so "unfired ammo" usually means a few rounds.

Of the Swiss gunowners I know there's none who does not have a small amount of ammo at home.

09-11-21, 01:14 PM	#1
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,566 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	I never seriously felt like owning a firearm until the Patriot Act was enacted twenty years ago. I had plenty of air guns to play with but just didn't need a gun. The reason was I felt the government was stomping on constitutional rights so I exercised one to thumb my nose at Congress. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

09-16-21, 10:34 PM	#2
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,735 Downloads: 1375 Uploads: 0	i pack all the time i c&c in the city but most times here i open carry,i feel better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it

10-10-23, 09:58 AM	#11
Ostfriese Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1,175 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If you want ammo at home in Switzerland you have to buy it yourself, there's usually no restriction as long as you are a Swiss citizen and have a clean record, and you must own a weapon that actually fires the ammunition you want to purchase. There are some restrictions for foreigners depending on where they are from (for example, Serbs, Bosnians, Kosovans, Macedonians, Turks, Sri Lankans, Algerians and Albanians are explicitly forbidden from owning, storing, carrying and/or buying any weapon or ammo). During military exercises Swiss soldiers and milita people receive ammo for their weapons, but must return any unspent ammo after the exercise. At shooting ranges you can buy ammo at reduced prices, and you can take unfired ammo home with you if you are at least 18 years old. However, you cannot buy large amounts there, so "unfired ammo" usually means a few rounds. Of the Swiss gunowners I know there's none who does not have a small amount of ammo at home.