Gunman kills 19 children, 2 adults in Texas grade school

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Yes you did and then posted repeatedly as though you have it all figured it out. So, in your infinite wisdom, how would you address these issues ? I mean, you know more than we do. Apparently.

You give me way too much credit.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by MaDef

You kids forget, smoking and alcohol use are not in the constitution, The right to bear arms however is a right guaranteed by the constitution. You all need to figure out the difference between a right and a privilege before you start posting some of these "ideas".

Sure, but that right is not absolute. You have plenty of regulations and laws concerning various aspects of firearm ownership and usage.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Sure, but that right is not absolute. You have plenty of regulations and laws concerning various aspects of firearm ownership and usage.

True, considering the reason why in 1971 political parties changed the age of responsibility from 21 to 18. Coupled with a seemingly increased bombardment of violence on social media, gaming and entertainment, the break-up of the family unit especially in poorer communities where a lower quality of life and delinquency run rampant. I think maybe we should up the age to 21 again to assist in the development of a higher level of maturity and responsibility before a firearm can be purchased. Who knows, maybe by then they will actually have a record that can be verified by the great comprehensive background check.

If some one wants to shoot guns before they’re 21 they can join the army.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

If you had read further I admitted that just like you and everyone else here I don’t have all the answers. But I’m not inclined to abandon the second amendment or create more redundant laws because someone didn’t have a daddy to teach him the difference between good and evil.

To whom are you referring to ?

[August]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Doesn’t the 2nd Amendment say something about ‘well-regulated militias’?

I don’t know, a mentally ill teenager who wants to murder little kids doesn’t sound ‘well-regulated’ to me.

"Well-regulated" in the parlance of the time when the 2A was written does not mean what you think it does. It meant "proficient".


An updated read of the 2A would be:


A "proficient" militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Doesn’t the 2nd Amendment say something about ‘well-regulated militias’?

I don’t know, a mentally ill teenager who wants to murder little kids doesn’t sound ‘well-regulated’ to me.

Please read SCJ Scalia's brief in D.C vs Heller
In a nutshell: "the amendment protects a right to possess a firearm unconnected to military service and that individuals are free to use such weapons for “traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."

[em2nought]

This is a result of who we've ignorantly handed the education of our children over to. If our children were firearms they've had so many weird features "installed" that they'd jam after a bullet or two.

[mapuc]

I can not decide what you will post in the future it's not my task to tell you what to post or not.

But I tell you after I saw this interview with this man from Texas late last night I became sad-So don't come here with your or that's terrible.

What he said-It's our God given right to own and bear arms.

Because you seem to worship your gun more than you worship life.

I'm sorry if someone may feel hurt by this post.

Markus

[Platapus]

I don't think we have a "gun problem" in the US


We have a "People choosing to kill people" problem in the US.


The first step in problem solving is to properly identify and bound the problem without presupposing a solution.


A "gun problem" presupposes a "gun solution". And that's not the problem.

But let's be honest. It is easier to focus on the gun than on the person. Solving mental health issues is a lot more difficult and uncomfortable to deal with.



For a politician, it is much easier to pass yet another gun law and then pat themselves on the back for "doing something".



And some voters fall for this.

[Skybird]

^ Its a cultural problem.

History and roots of own origin form present culture. Culture forms behaviour, definition of perception and expectation. If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail - and if you glorify violence in a culture, you tend to see violence as the only valid problem solving method. You know no other.

Its the past that brought us to where we are. American today culture is what was sown back then.

Its hard to run free from your shadow.

[mapuc]

What this man also said was that too few good men had their own gun. Good men would take out the bad guys he said.

Markus

[vienna]

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[Skybird]

Originally Posted by mapuc

What this man also said was that too few good men had their own gun. Good men would take out the bad guys he said.

Markus

Schooluniforms! Helmets for pupils! Every grammar school a fortress! Every child warrior a fighter for the good cause! Self defence - only for adults? I say No to unarmed children! Let them take out the bad guys themselves! That also helps to avoid court conflicts over military police violence!

[mapuc]

The 18-year-old behind tragic school shooting in Uvalde could be an angry young man, but was not a monster, says mother.

The 18-year-old man who on Tuesday killed 19 children and 2 teachers at an elementary school in Texas is being taken in defense by his mother.

In an interview with American ABC News, Adriana Reyes says that her deceased son "was not a monster", but she also acknowledges that he could "be aggressive".

Markus

[MaDef]

being flippant is kind of counter productive is it not?