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Old 06-23-21, 10:27 AM   #1
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Default Russian Navy Capers: Russia says it fired shots, chased U.K. ship out of its waters

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/r...k-sea-n1272095

Hmmm.... is this a bad sign?
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Old 06-23-21, 10:58 AM   #2
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There seems to be considerable disinformation going on here
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In a separate statement, Britain's defense ministry said it believed the "Russians were undertaking a gunnery exercise in the Black Sea and provided the maritime community with prior-warning of their activity."

It added: "No shots were directed at HMS Defender and we do not recognise the claim that bombs were dropped in her path."
Methinks this is an old game though: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38745364
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Jan 2017 The Ministry of Defence said that at 12:30 GMT on Wednesday, the returning Russian ships were off the coast of Dover.

A Navy spokesman said the British craft were deployed to "provide reassurance to the nations which border the North Sea and English Channel".

He added: "Remaining at a respectful distance, but keeping the Russian warships clearly visible, Royal Navy sailors keep watch on every movement through their binoculars and use state-of-the-art radars to track the course and speed of the ships incl. Russia's only aircraft carrier: as they pass close to the UK."
England should just claim the entire English Channel as China does the South China Seas, denying free passage and really piss off the commie bastards...precedent having been established by China!!??
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Problem being we don't have a navy large enough or strong enough to enforce such a measure.
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Problem being we don't have a navy large enough or strong enough to enforce such a measure.
Lend Lease lad; a prime NATO tenant being: "The Atlantic is an English speaking lake'...and after Buddahaid's 'who what where' Italian connection studies ...throw in a modern mined boom across the Folkstone-Calais Strait narrows where Chloe McCardel likes to swim!
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It seems la Perfide Albion (UK) was lying, and Russia was right !

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There seems to be considerable disinformation going on here Methinks this is an old game though: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38745364 England should just claim the entire English Channel as China does the South China Seas, denying free passage and really piss off the commie bastards...precedent having been established by China!!??
Yeah, but when the russian crossed the English channel they warned to UK, France and Spain about the route taken. On the other hand, have you read the BBC note where showed a secret document in which there were discrepancies among the British high ranking whether to pass the HMS Defender there or a little further south? It was a deliberate step to seek an answer, Well, they already have it.

"The documents relating to the Royal Navy's Type 45 destroyer, HMS Defender, show that a mission described by the MoD as an "innocent passage through Ukrainian territorial waters", with guns covered and the ship's helicopter stowed in its hangar, was conducted in the expectation that Russia might respond aggressively."

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With guns covered and Helicopter stowed even if its pre meditated it still is innocent passage.

The same cannot however be said for the Russians when they pass through the channel, guns are not covered but helos are usually stowed, the Russians also follow commercial traffic lanes when transiting and are in constant contact with VTS.

The reality is we have been doing this to each other for a very long time so its quite expected.
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