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Old 09-26-22, 03:17 PM   #6706
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^ this looks like an FSB stunt, but also could be just a crazy nazi. There are lot of those in Russia, sure more than in Ukraine

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"Mobilized man killed a drafting office commander in Ust-Ilimsk, Irkutsk region, Russia.
Alexandr Yeliseev, the commander, was shot four times almost point blank.
The murderer is Ruslan Zinin, born in 1997, "partially mobilized". He decided jail is better than death in Ukraine."


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Old 09-26-22, 03:28 PM   #6707
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Looks like Russia found its own lend-lease... ohh bugger from WWII

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In a registration and recruitment office in Siberia, a man shot a recruitment officer. The shooter was subsequently detained, writes the governor of the Irkutsk region. The shooting took place in the city of Ust-Ilimsk in eastern Siberia. According to several reports on Telegram, the man walked into the office and said "no one will fight," before opening fire.

With the satellite countries turning against Russia, Iran on the brink of secular revolution, china and India backing down support, Putin gets more and more on the road to his exit.

I read that as well. Hard to keep up with developments in Russia.
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Old 09-26-22, 03:37 PM   #6709
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I read that as well. Hard to keep up with developments in Russia.
Dagestan is on fire. One of the cornerstones of Putin’s ‘Russki Mir’. Who’s going to be next? I would pay a special attention to Tatarstan, Buryatiya, Kalmykiya, Altay, Tuva. The prediction of the Russia’s collapse is slowly coming true.
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Old 09-26-22, 04:00 PM   #6710
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Maybe Putin can draft Snowdon, now that he is a Russian Citizen.
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Old 09-26-22, 04:06 PM   #6711
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Maybe Putin can draft Snowdon, now that he is a Russian Citizen.
It is Putin middle finger to the US Snowden was stupid that he went to Russia, big mistake. His lawyer said it doesn't because Snowden never served in the Russian army.
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It is Putin middle finger to the US Snowden was stupid that he went to Russia, big mistake. His lawyer said it doesn't because Snowden never served in the Russian army.

You forgot Putin's buddy who lives there too. None other than Steven Segal. Steven is rough and tough and practiced in the art of Bu****o. There are none better than Steven in this art. I wonder if he will go on the front lines against the Ukraine. I'm betting he won't.
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Old 09-26-22, 05:32 PM   #6713
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Maybe as a tank?
The years haven't been kind.
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Old 09-26-22, 05:57 PM   #6714
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It is Putin middle finger to the US Snowden was stupid that he went to Russia, big mistake. His lawyer said it doesn't because Snowden never served in the Russian army.
from reports they hadn't been following that but it be funny if snowden gets call in goes and ukraine captures him he probably end up back in US quick has a present
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from reports they hadn't been following that but it be funny if snowden gets call in goes and ukraine captures him he probably end up back in US quick has a present
I posted a link in which it was said that these young Russian men is sent directly to the front-No training whatsoever.

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Uprising against Putin smoulders in Dagestan: 'Could help shift attitudes across Russia'

The burning photo of Vladimir Putin falls to the ground. Angry women attack police directly.

Shouts of 'we are not blind' and 'it was Russia that attacked Ukraine' are heard. Or "our children should not end up as fertilizer".

The above scenes are just a few of the countless videos that have spread on social media over the weekend from the Russian republic of Dagestan. From the capital Makhachkala to the small village of Endirei.

There have been even highly visible protests against President Vladimir Putin's partial mobilisation of 300,000 extra troops for Ukraine.

"There are signs that people are realising they have been taken for a ride. That it has been led astray with vertical lies," as Russia expert Mette Skak, a lecturer at Aarhus University, puts it:

"This may well be the straw that breaks the camel's back and simply leaves Putin with an escalating domestic political crisis. That, one can already sense, may come out of this."

That protests have flourished in Dagestan in particular is interesting. It is a small, poor and unattractive region with fewer inhabitants than Denmark - but according to statistics, it is still the republic that has lost the most soldiers in Ukraine so far.

More than ten times as many as Moscow, for example. Similar trends are emerging in other remote republics with large ethnic minorities.

Street protests against Putin's #mobilization are growing in the southern #Dagestan region of #Russia. In #Makhachkala city, a hundred protesters had been arrested by riot police so far. pic.twitter.com/I8hzBW5N0f

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And the picture has been the same in the recent mobilization, where men in the republics in question have also apparently been drafted at random and not at all according to the declared criteria.

Old and young have been drafted, as have invalids, university students, people with no military experience and even men who have been dead for years.

"People have become angry and now the point has been reached where people are saying no. Enough is enough," says Mette Skak, who also calls the mobilisation "a domestic political self goal":

"And even if it's 'just' in Dagestan, it matters in the bigger picture, because we also know that the Russian population at large - including those in well-protected big cities like Moscow and St Petersburg - are very nervous about how the partial mobilisation is being so carelessly administered in practice. It may well help to create a mood shift throughout Russia and develop seriously for Putin."

Governors and mayors from Dagestan, but also from the equally impoverished republic of Buryatia, have been out this weekend to lament the haphazard mobilisation. Without, however, addressing the amount of soldiers drafted in from the territories.

According to the independent organisation OVD-Info, more than 2,350 protesters have been arrested in Russia since Vladimir Putin's announcement of the partial mobilisation on Wednesday.

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Norstream 1 and 2 apparently sabotaged. Damage seems to be significant and serious. Der Tagesspiegel comments:
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The Nord Stream pipelines may have been damaged by targeted attacks and therefore leaked.

After there was already a drastic loss of pressure in one of the two strings of Nord Stream 2 on Monday night and a leak was detected in Danish territorial waters, a spokesman for the twin Nord Stream 1 pipeline said that a "sharp drop in pressure" was also recorded in both pipelines on Monday evening. The situation is now being investigated, he added.

Root cause investigations have been initiated in both cases, and federal security authorities have taken up the cases. "Forensic results" are not expected within a short time, he said, because the seabed must be reached.

However, the worst is expected due to the timing, the three pipelines affected and the severe pressure losses in Nord Stream 1, which also suggest a major leak. "Our imagination no longer yields a scenario that is not a targeted attack," said a person privy to the assessment by the federal government and federal agencies. It continued, "Everything speaks against a coincidence."

Such a suspected attack on the seabed is anything but trivial, it must be carried out with special forces, for example, naval divers, or a submarine, it was further said from the circles informed about the initial situation assessment.

Regarding the authorship of the alleged attacks, two main possibilities are being discussed. First, according to the initial speculations, Ukrainian forces or forces associated with Ukraine could be responsible. With the temporary shutdown of the Nord Stream pipelines, gas deliveries from Russia to Germany and Central Europe would only be possible via the Yamal connection, which runs through Poland, or the Ukrainian pipeline network.

Second, exactly the same scenario, but as a so-called "false flag" operation by Russia, was a possible explanation for the pipeline leaks. This could fuel additional uncertainty and possibly push the price of gas back up to exacerbate the European energy price crisis, which had recently eased minimally.

Russian gas monopolist Gazprom had stopped deliveries through Nord Stream 1 at the end of August, catapulting gas prices in Europe upwards. Allegedly, urgent maintenance work is not possible due to sanctions against Russia.

Both Western equipment suppliers and the German government deny this account. Berlin security circles said it could not be ruled out that a suspected attack had already been planned before the delivery stop, because the lead times for such special operations could be long.

A spokeswoman for the Federal Ministry of Economics said on Monday evening: "We are in the process of exchanging information with the authorities concerned and the Federal Network Agency to clarify the facts here as well. Currently, we do not know the causes of the pressure drop," she said.

The Federal Network Agency does not see any impact on supply security after the pressure drop in the Nord Stream 1 pipeline. "We are in the process of clarifying the facts here as well, in exchange with the Federal Ministry of Economics and the authorities concerned. Currently, we do not know the causes of the pressure drop," a spokesman for the authority said. "We do not see any impact on supply security," he added.
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Old 09-26-22, 06:29 PM   #6718
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Did he foresee the future ? This author Lars Wilderäng

He wrote a thriller called Midwinter Darkness

The main story is Russia attack Sweden and occupy Gotland-They do so because they accuse the Swedish government to hide Terrorist who should be behind the sabotage of Nordstream.

I have this book as audiobook oh man it is a nail biting war thriller.

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Old 09-27-22, 01:35 AM   #6719
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^ @Markus Don't give them ideas, sounds like a perfect false flag operation!

^^@Skybird if there is a leak there should be visible bubbles, and along with hydrocarbon sniffers the position should be found if weather allows
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^ @Markus Don't give them ideas, sounds like a perfect false flag operation!

^^@Skybird if there is a leak there should be visible bubbles, and along with hydrocarbon sniffers the position should be found if weather allows
The DDanes seem to know where the leaks (plural! ) are, ghey have established exclusion zones for navel and aerial traffic.

Could have been many interesting sides. Russia. Poland. Ukraine. US. Could be targetted against the complete West. Could be targetted specifically against Germany and its foolish nonsense diplomacy, to prdvent its continuation after the war for sure.
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