Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[les green01]

Originally Posted by tonschk

Yes God is with Mother Russia and with the Russian People, the Russian Army is Crushing currently the Lame Bastards and Terrorist criminals NATO Psychopath mercenaries wich is what really actually the Psychopath Terrorist NATO criminals are

you need to leave the good stuff alone it is frying your brain Russia crushing i guess they are still on day 2 of the 3 day operation and honest only lame bastards and terrorist i see is russia and they been that way since i been alive.

[Exocet25fr]

https://news.sky.com/story/us-genera...eveal-12798365

[Skybird]

Olaf Scholz and great strategist? "Des Kanzler's Panzer-Coup gegen Amerika?" Don't make me laugh.



Neue Zürcher Zeitung has this revelation, and it is no compliment for the German(s).

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Olaf Scholz sold his tank turnaround as a well-considered decision - but in fact he was probably caught off guard

Some inconsistencies lead to the conclusion that the U.S. government cornered the German chancellor. His decision to send Leopard 2s to Ukraine appears to have been made frantically and without the necessary consultation with coalition partners.

The day after his decision to send battle tanks to Ukraine, Olaf Scholz presented himself as a shrewd strategist. He had not hesitated and dithered, as the short-sighted and ignorant opponents of his course repeatedly accused him of doing, he explained. Rather, he said, everything had followed a long-term plan on which he had consulted Washington and Paris and his partners in the Berlin coalition in a spirit of trust. His message to the people: Trust me, I have everything under control.

Now, three pieces of evidence allow the conclusion that this account does not have much to do with reality. They indicate that Olaf Scholz was willing right up to the end not to deliver Leopard 2s and maneuvered himself into a predicament. Most importantly, they cast strong doubts on the German chancellor's credibility in the tank debate.

One of the pieces of evidence is a confidential conversation between the NZZ and two influential foreign policy experts, one from the governing coalition, the other from the opposition. Both insist on anonymity because what they say independently is explosive. According to them, U.S. President Joe Biden sent CIA chief William J. Burns on a secret mission to Kiev and Moscow in mid-January. Burns, they say, was to sound out the willingness of both sides to negotiate.

The offer to Kiev was peace for land, the offer to Moscow was land for peace. The "land" was said to be about 20 percent of Ukrainian territory. That is about the size of the Donbass. Both sides, the two politicians report, refused. The Ukrainians because they are not prepared to divide their territory, the Russians because they assume that they will win the war in the long run anyway.

These statements are explosive, for one thing, because they reveal the thinking that prevailed in the White House at the time of Burns' trip. Biden obviously wanted to avoid a protracted war in Ukraine and was willing to sacrifice parts of the country. He is not alone in Washington in taking this position. A new study by the Rand Corporation ("Avoiding a long war"), a renowned American think tank, concludes that "avoiding a long war is a higher priority" for the United States than allowing Ukraine "to control all of its territory."
Moscow, the two German foreign policy experts say, now knows how far the Americans are willing to go.

The statements are also explosive because they show the split in the U.S. government over the Ukraine issue. On one side are National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan and CIA chief Burns. They want to end the war quickly so they can focus on China, which they see as the much bigger threat to the United States. On the other side are Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin. They do not want to let Russia get away with destroying the rules-based peace order and advocate massive military support for Ukraine.

After Burns failed with his diplomatic mission to Kiev and Moscow, according to the two German foreign policy experts, President Biden sided with Blinken and Austin. According to the report, he decided to give in to the German chancellor's urging and approved the delivery of Abrams main battle tanks. Originally, Biden wanted to leave it at a three-digit number of infantry fighting vehicles and other weapons. The main battle tanks were to be supplied by the Europeans. With his decision, however, he now knocked the argument out of Scholz's hand that Germany would only agree to the delivery of Leopard 2s if the Americans sent Abrams for their part.

Scholz obviously did not expect this, which brings document number two into play. Late in the afternoon of Jan. 25, the day of the German chancellor's tank decision, the Foreign Office in Berlin sent out an official language directive for diplomats to all foreign missions. Under the heading "Lines to take: delivery of Leopard tanks for the UKR," the ministry told Green Party politician Annalena Baerbock that "the German government has not yet taken a decision on the issue of the delivery of battle tanks from Germany." "Within the international coalition of supporters for Ukraine, there is still a need for talks on the question of the possible delivery of Leopard 2s." The paper is classified and is available to the NZZ.

At that point, the U.S. government had long since leaked that it wanted to supply Abrams main battle tanks to Ukraine. Olaf Scholz must also have made his decision by then, as the timing of the first announcement suggests. An hour and a half after the Foreign Office had informed its embassies and consulates, "Der Spiegel" reported at around 6:30 p.m. on the chancellor's decision to send Leopard 2s to Ukraine. As a result, Baerbock's ministry had to quickly retract the language.

The event allows two conclusions to be drawn. First, Baerbock knew nothing about the decision in the Chancellor's Office. Scholz made it without informing the most important representatives of his coalition partners in time. This in turn is, secondly, an indication that Scholz was surprised by the events in Washington. He apparently assumed until the very end that Biden would follow the line taken by CIA chief Burns and security adviser Sullivan.

Accordingly, the German chancellor hoped to avoid a delivery of battle tanks at the price of Ukraine losing part of its territory. When Biden then changed his mind, Scholz had to change his stance within a very short time. It is thus clear that his narrative of a long-term plan coordinated with Washington and Paris cannot be true. American media reported that until the very end, Biden believed that Germany and other Europeans should supply battle tanks, while the U.S. should send infantry fighting vehicles.

The two weapons systems together were supposed to give the Ukrainians a powerful tool against the expected spring offensive by the Russians. Only the failure of CIA chief Burns' diplomatic mission ensured that the Americans would put an end to the German chancellor's dithering.

Finally, there is a third piece of evidence that casts doubt on the Berlin Chancellery's reading of Olaf Scholz's great diplomatic sophistication. It was initiated by Christian Democrat MP Nicholas Zippelius and supplied by Siemtje Möller, Social Democrat State Secretary in the Ministry of Defense. Zippelius had asked Möller whether the German government had checked the availability of tanks for possible deliveries to Ukraine last year. This had been preceded by the statement of the new Minister of Defense, Boris Pistorius, on the fringes of a meeting of Ukraine supporters in Ramstein on January 20, that he did not currently know how many tanks were even ready for deployment.

Möller's answer seemed to have surprised even the CDU/CSU in the German Bundestag. There had been "no comprehensive and detailed examination of the availability of the Bundeswehr's stocks of battle tanks as well as infantry fighting vehicles in the context of possible deliveries to Ukraine," the state secretary admitted. She justified this statement by saying that there had been "no common positioning among Ukraine's supporting states for a possible delivery of the weapon systems mentioned."

Eleven months after the start of the war, the German Ministry of Defense wants to have determined its inventory of battle tanks and infantry fighting vehicles for the first time? That is implausible. The "clear level" of the main weapons systems in the Bundeswehr is regularly determined and reported to the Defense Ministry. Union politicians express the suspicion that the Chancellery has forbidden the Defense Ministry to even plan a delivery of tanks to Ukraine.

"Scholz did not want to deliver until the very end because he firmly assumed that the Americans would not send any battle tanks either," they say. This caused damage to Germany's image from which it could have been saved by a strategic culture of foresight and partnership on the part of the German government.

The entire process not only makes Germany's chancellor look untrustworthy, but also as a failed strategist who has been duped by the United States. It is not just that Scholz's tank decision seemed very rushed. It is also the case that he felt pressured by the decision in Washington to deliver the Leopard 2A6, one of the most modern main battle tanks in the Bundeswehr inventory, within the next two months. This will open up another gap in Germany's defense capability.

The Americans, meanwhile, did not announce what exactly they intend to deliver until after the German decision. It will be 31 Abrams, not from the active force, but from depots. It will take about a year, he said, for these tanks to be overhauled and ready for deployment. That's a lot of time in a war. By then, it could be that some of the Leopard tanks in Ukraine have already been destroyed.
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It also shows how big the interest to help Ukraine winning the war really is. Not at all as big as is always claimed.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

It also shows how big the interest to help Ukraine winning the war really is. Not at all as big as is always claimed.

For me it shows that NATO/EU play different tune.

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by Exocet25fr

https://news.sky.com/story/us-genera...eveal-12798365

Which US General said this and to whom?

[Dargo]

#9552 Map of land that Ukraine will be able to reach using the GLSDB that they can’t reach now with GMLRS

• GLSDB has a max range of 150 km and can hit 31% of Crimea and 82% of all occupied land
• GMLRS has a max range of 92 km and can hit 2% of Crimea and 62% of all occupied land

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

[Catfish]

[Skybird]

Die Welt writes:
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In battle for this city, Putin tests new brute tactics

Fierce fighting has broken out around the small town of Wuhledar in Ukraine's Donetsk oblast. Russian troops are pushing forward with a new, merciless tactic. Whether they are successful with it in this small town will have major implications for the course of the war.

It has been months since anyone could get to Wuhledar on the normal connecting road. The only reasonably safe route has been over dirt roads into which the winter frost has imprinted deep tire tracks of military vehicles. Now this longer and more time-consuming route is suddenly more dangerous than ever. That's because three days ago, the Russian army launched probing attacks on the small coal-mining town in the Donbas, located about 50 kilometers southwest of Russian-occupied Donetsk.

Advance attacks have evolved into a "concerted assault," British intelligence wrote Tuesday in an update on the situation in Ukraine. According to the report, hundreds of artillery shells and recurrent so-called vacuum bombs are raining down on the geometrically aligned residential neighborhoods of Wuhledar.

So far, Russian troops have only advanced to the southern outskirts of the city - with enormous losses in some cases. Meadows and fields near the Kashlahach River, which marked the front line for several months, are littered with explosion craters and the bodies of Russian soldiers. The army leadership in Moscow continues to rely on "human wave attacks," as the American Institute for Study of War (ISW) calls it. This involves infantry advancing on enemy lines in small units, which is tantamount to a suicide mission, especially in open terrain.

The capture of the small town of Soledar by Wagner's mercenary force in mid-January was based on this merciless tactic. The Kremlin was taken in. After all, over the course of the previous six months, its troops had suffered one bitter defeat after another. Soledar was finally a notable success again. This could be the reason why this brute fighting tactic is also being used in Wuhledar, 160 kilometers to the south.

According to the think tank ISW, the new Russian military operations at the front have a system at any rate. "The Russian General Staff wants to prevent Ukraine from regaining the initiative," it says, which should certainly not happen "before the planned decisive Russian offensive in the Donbas."

The Ukrainian army still had the advantage in the fall, when it recaptured extensive territory from Russia in Kharkiv and Kherson. But the advance stalled after Moscow used tens of thousands of mobilized troops to make up for heavy losses. The Russian General Staff has now apparently begun conducting "shaping operations," as it is called in military jargon.

Terrain and the big battle are to be prepared with targeted, tactical maneuvers. In the process, Russia is targeting strategically important points on the front, which is 1200 kilometers long in total. The activities extend from the northeast to the south near Zaporizhzhya, with the fiercest fighting still taking place in the region around Soledar, Bakhmut and, for the past few days, precisely in Wuhledar.

"The situation in Vuhledar, Bachmut and the other affected areas is tough," Ukrainian President Volodymyr Selenskyy lamented on Sunday. "There are constant attempts to break through our defenses," head of state said in his daily video address. "The enemy does not count its people and maintains a high intensity of attack despite numerous losses."

The Russian General Staff has good reason to attack Wuhledar. The place is an important logistics hub. By capturing it, Russia would cut off the Ukrainians from supplies and itself strengthen its own logistics. Indeed, a railroad line leads from Wuhledar to southern Ukraine and the occupied regions there, and Wuhledar would also be a key point for new attacks on Ukrainian territories.

The new Russian attacks put Kiev on the spot, as the military needs to strengthen its defenses. A Russian breakthrough in the Donbas could have fatal consequences. Ukrainian troop displacements, however, are exactly what Moscow wants to encourage, as the Washington-based ISW think tank notes, "The local attacks are likely aimed at dispersing Ukrainian forces and setting the stage for a decisive Russian offensive in the western Luhansk oblast," the experts write. The Russian concept appears to be working, at least for now, as Ukraine is doing everything it can to hold its defensive lines.

The Kremlin seems ready to make any sacrifice for the success of its "shaping operations." Russian losses are disproportionately high and cannot really be justified by any cost-benefit calculation. Russia relies on mass. According to estimates, the Russian army now fires far fewer munitions, but still five to six times as much as Ukraine. Quantitative superiority in personnel and weapons is said to be the key to success. Otherwise, it is hard to explain why the Kremlin continues to recklessly send thousands of soldiers to their deaths on the battlefield.

The Russian ruling elite and the General Staff have had time and opportunity to change course. After all, over the past two months there have been numerous meetings in Moscow of those in charge of the military situation of the so-called "special operation" in Ukraine. In the end, President Vladimir Putin swore the nation in for a long war and committed the defense industry to increase production.

No one can assess at this point whether the Russian army is actually capable of a large-scale offensive. Western military and strategic experts have grave doubts about it. After all, in the course of the Ukraine war, serious deficiencies were revealed in the armed forces - from the command structure to the logistics.

Added to this are the enormous losses of soldiers and equipment. These are all problems that could not be solved from one day to the next. "The Russians' ability to conduct large-scale, multi-axis rapid offensives this winter and spring is therefore highly questionable," ISW summed up in its Jan. 28 assessment.

Is Russia about to plunge blindly into military GAU? One can assume that the Russian military command staff and also President Putin are of a completely different opinion. The new "shaping operations" at the front are the first signs that they want to wage a tactically different war. In other words, they no longer want to conquer the country with miles-long armored columns, which failed miserably at the beginning of the invasion.

What is significant about the current attacks on Wuhledar and Bachmut is that the general staff is now increasingly deploying regular Marines units there. Until now, the fight in this area was left to the Wagner mercenaries, the troops of the so-called Donetsk Democratic Republic, and Ramzan Kadyrov's Chechen contingents. Now there seems to be more of an alliance of forces.

Nevertheless, the offensive has stalled. As a result, between 3,000 and 4,000 troops are expected to come from Mariupol for reinforcement. At least, that's what Petro Andriushchenko, the adviser to the city's mayor, reported on Telegram. In addition, more "units of the invaders" would be equipped to fight north of Mariupol in the Luhansk region. Numerous military vehicles and weapon systems are to be ready for an offensive, Andriushchenko wrote.
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[Skybird]

Like the Nazis in the Third Reich did. Of course, no surprise here.

FOCUS writes:
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Secret paper shows how super-rich wanted to loot Ukraine

This image from the oligarchs' presentation shows which territories the super-rich wanted to loot

Vladimir Putin says he wants to free Ukraine from the Nazis. That this is a fairy tale has long been clear anyway. Now a secret presentation shows that Russia's super-rich are primarily concerned with one thing in this war: profit.

Russia's super-rich oligarchs have a plan for how to divide Ukraine among themselves once Putin conquers large parts of the country. That's according to a secret presentation by investment mogul Konstantin Malofeyev, which a Russian Telegram channel has now published. British military historian Chris Owen has summarized the content.

According to it, shortly after the war began, oligarchs assumed that Ukraine would be split. According to this, Russia was to conquer the entire Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhya, Kherson, Mykolaiv and Odessa regions. That would have left Ukraine without access to sea routes. And Ukraine would have lost most of its heavy industry, hydroelectric resources, and minerals. Owen writes for this case, "Ukraine would be an economically devastated landlocked country."

Oligarch Malofeyev outlines his dream of an empire in Ukraine in the presentation. The ultra-conservative Putin intimate describes how a "DMZ corporation" could annex large parts of Ukrainian industry. That group already exists. The Donetsk Metallurgical Plant operates mines and factories in the Russian-controlled part of the Donetsk region.

Malofeyev talks about market opportunities and consolidation. What he means is that he wants to grab the Ukrainian silverware. And he lists it quite unabashedly. Under the heading "Companies in the liberated territories that are candidates for integration" are, among others, some of Europe's largest mining and raw materials processing companies.
No pipe dream - there was already a concrete three-step plan in place

Owen writes that a slide suggests he was not talking about loose musings here. The lawyers had already drawn up agreements. There was a concrete three-step plan that would be followed through from 2022 to 2027. This included that the conquered companies should increasingly trade with Russia-friendly countries in the Middle East, is East Asia and Africa. For this purpose, the port of Odessa was also to be connected to the DMZ group.

Thus, the turnover should be increased from 70 trillion rubles (just under a billion euros) to 220 trillion rubles (more than 3 billion euros) by 2024. According to the presentation, this would lead to the "formation of a large-scale enterprise in the interests of the Russian Federation."


Owen concludes, "Of course, the Ukrainian business owners would not have gotten any money for the takeovers. Malofeyev planned nothing here but the biggest heist in history. But this seems to have been fortunately averted." Russia has so far not been able to conquer even a fraction of the targeted territory.
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[Otto Harkaman]

[Jimbuna]

UK to get more than 148 of world's most advanced tanks, says Wallace

Military chiefs say Britain will have the world's most advanced tanks amid fears the Army does not have enough fire power and is falling behind other major militaries. Defence Secretary Ben Wallace told the Daily Express that talks were under way to provide more than 148 Challenger 3 tanks.

Mr Wallace spoke as he and Foreign Secretary James Cleverly watched Australian troops train Ukrainian forces at a UK location. The Ministry of Defence is planning to phase out 79 of the 229 Challenger 2 tanks. The remaining 148 will receive new guns and armour.

Defence chiefs believe the upgraded fighting machines will be the most advanced in the world. Concern is growing that Britain does not have enough firepower after giving 14 tanks and scores of artillery rocket systems to Kyiv.

The war in Ukraine has reinforced the importance of armoured vehicles and artillery systems that can hit targets dozens - and in some cases hundreds - of miles away.

Mr Wallace said: "We've gifted 14, I will replace those. I'll also increase the number of Challenger 3s, subject to negotiations with contractors.

"I'll see to increase the number of Challenger 3 upgrades as well."

Around 40,000 Ukrainians will undergo training in Britain for five weeks this year, before they go back to the front line.

Mr Wallace previously told MPs the Ministry of Defence was reviewing its fleet of tanks as fears grew the British Army already had too few.

The Defence Secretary and Foreign Secretary, James Cleverly, held talks with their Australian counterparts, Richard Miles and Penny Wong, on the AUKUS submarine deal and support for Ukrainian troops.

Mr Wallace, speaking on a visit with Foreign Secretary James Cleverly, refused to be drawn on whether former Prime Minister Boris Johnson was right to say his successor Rishi Sunak was wrong not to send fighter jets to Ukraine.

He told the Daily Express: "The reality is fighter jets are another step change. Everything we do in this conflict is linked to the needs of the Ukrainians in the moment.

"Tanks took a few weeks, but we got their tanks. What's important on the battlefield right now and what they urgently needed before that was air defence to protect the critical infrastructure. The reality is not about right or wrong.

"The reality is, what is needed on the battlefield right now. What is needed right now is tanks, combined arms manoeuvre , more munitions and more personnel who are well trained. I've learned over the last year, never rule anything in and never rule anything out."

Mr Wallace said there is "a bit of evidence" Moscow is planning another mass conscription of young men, but added: "The Russians are running out of equipment to give these people".

And he admitted he is "surprised" by Russian forces digging trenches in eastern Ukraine.

He says this shows how poorly trained and corrupt Moscow's forces are - despite the bluster. But Mr Wallace said Ukrainian troops being trained in the UK are being taught how to attack Russian trench systems which have been replicated on training bases here.

They are also shown how to disable boobytraps and move through minefields while under artillery fire. Military chiefs want to make it "as realistic as possible" during the five-week infantry training.

Only one in ten trainees have had previous combat experience. The oldest recruit was over 70, the Daily Express heard.

Mr Wallace told the Daily Express: "For all the boasting of the Russian forces, the Russians have gone back to the Soviet, almost second world war type human wave mentality, massive amounts of artillery and then just chuck people against machine guns.

"I am surprised to see that. The Russian so-called military Gerasimov leadership has produced a hollow, corrupt armed forces with poor training and poor equipment.

"You have got one massive power that doesn't care about its own people and just shoves them into a Russian meat grinder. If you're a leadership that doesn't simply give a damn about how many people you're killing, at one level you can try and wear out the other country. A slow, long drawn out conflict would suit a man who doesn't care about his own people. The Ukrainians aren't going to make that mistake and nor is the West.

"What you've seen in the last year is Ukraine fighting exactly the way we've designed NATO to fight because we have known for decades that you cannot fight Russian mass in that same way. So we invented and developed a different way of fighting and it has shown it has worked.

"The lesson of history is that human waves do not actually work in the end. In the end, you lose a huge amount of people."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/tech...48d4c918eea2f5

[Jimbuna]

Russia dealt with huge trade blow by key ally as Putin plots new Ukraine assault

Kazakhstan, one of Russia's closest allies, will close its trade representation in Russia, the Prime Minister has declared. Announcing the news, the country's Ministry of Trade said the offices will be closed down by order of Prime Minister Alikhan Smailov.

The trade representation of Kazakhstan in Russia has the organisational and legal form of a state institution. It is engaged in providing free assistance to domestic exporters and distributors, as well as attracting foreign investment to Kazakhstan.

It is not the first time the Russian President is faced with such a blow from one of his ex-Soviet counterparts.

He has been trying to secure his alliance in a series of summits since the start of his invasion of Ukraine.

In November, Putin travelled to Armenia for a summit of the Collective Security Treaty Organisation (CSTO).

The Moscow-led group of ex-Soviet states, including Armenia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan, met in Armenia's capital Yerevan.

Vladimir Putin was expected to project Russia's power at the meeting but it looked as if Moscow's recent lack of interest in his partners caused some cracks in the alliance.

At the end of the summit, Armenia's Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan clashed with the Russian leader over Putin's reluctance to come to his aid in a conflict against Azerbaijan.

Tensions rose in September between Armenia and Azerbaijan and two sides say more than 200 soldiers died in the conflict.

Mr Pashinyan told his counterparts at the summit: "It is depressing that Armenia's membership in the CSTO did not deter Azerbaijan from aggressive actions.

"Right up to today we have not managed to reach a decision on a CSTO response to Azerbaijan's aggression against Armenia. These facts do grave harm to the image of the CSTO both inside our country and outside its borders, and I consider this the main failure of Armenia's chairmanship of the CSTO."

Russia is mustering its military might in the Luhansk region of Ukraine, local officials said Wednesday, in what Kyiv suspects is preparation for an offensive in the eastern area in coming weeks as the anniversary of Moscow's invasion approaches.

Also Wednesday, President Volodymyr Zelensky's government continued its crackdown on alleged corruption, reportedly targeting the head of the Kyiv tax service, customs officials, a former government minister and an oligarch.

Zelensky was elected in 2019 on an anti-establishment and anti-corruption platform in a country long gripped by graft, and the new allegations come as Western allies are channeling billions of dollars to help Kyiv fight against Moscow.

On the battlefront, the Kremlin's forces are expelling local residents from their homes near the Russian-held parts of the front line so that they can't provide information about Russian troop deployments to Ukrainian artillery, Luhansk Gov. Serhii Haidai said.

"There is an active transfer of (Russian troops) to the region and they are definitely preparing for something on the eastern front in February," Haidai said.

Military analysts anticipate a new push soon by Moscow's forces, with the Institute for the Study of War saying in an assessment late Tuesday that "an imminent Russian offensive in the coming months is the most likely course of action."

A new offensive might also coincide with the invasion anniversary on February 24.

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reported Wednesday that Russia is also concentrating its efforts in neighbouring Donetsk province, especially in its bid to capture the key city of Bakhmut.

Donetsk and Luhansk provinces make up the Donbas, an industrial region bordering Russia that President Vladimir Putin identified as a goal from the war's outset and where Moscow-backed separatists have fought Ukrainian authorities since 2014.

The regional governor of Donetsk, Pavlo Kyrylenko, posted images of the aftermath of the shelling in Bakhmut, showing huge black holes in residential buildings in the embattled city.

He said that Russia is "actively deploying new military personnel to the region."

Donetsk was one of four provinces that Russia illegally annexed in the fall, but it controls only about half of it. To take the remaining half, Russian forces have no choice but to go through Bakhmut, which offers the only approach to bigger Ukrainian-held cities.

Russian forces have been trying for months to capture Bakhmut. Moscow-installed authorities in Donetsk claimed Russian troops are "closing the ring" around the city.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...669755aa5cb6e7

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