[REL] Dark Waters

12-13-22, 10:47 AM

I think it's simpler than that. He probably got SH4: Wolves of the Pacific on Steam, but it's not updated with SH4: U-boat missions.

Thus, Dark Waters (and most of SH4 megamods) won't work because the game is not updated to v1.5.

@Seewolf_ can you check what version is shown on the lower right corner of the Main Menu screen? It should be 1.5 to run Dark Waters.

Seewolf_ · 12-13-22, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JapLance

I think it's simpler than that. He probably got SH4: Wolves of the Pacific on Steam, but it's not updated with SH4: U-boat missions.

Thus, Dark Waters (and most of SH4 megamods) won't work because the game is not updated to v1.5.

@Seewolf_ can you check what version is shown on the lower right corner of the Main Menu screen? It should be 1.5 to run Dark Waters.

Yes, that's probably the problem, because I haven't installed Uboat Missions, the version I have only includes the standard game.

Unfortunately I can't start the game to check which version I have installed, because the game doesn't start in the vanilla version. The process runs in the task manager in the background, but I don't get a start screen, in Steam I can see that it's running. If I install the mod then it starts at least until the loading screen.

Now the question is whether I should simply buy the addon Uboot Missions via Steam, whether that works? Unfortunately, I can't find the Gold Edition on Steam.

propbeanie · 12-13-22, 03:43 PM

I was expecting Steam to have a Christmas sale going on, but apparently, it either already ran, or has not been done yet, anyway, at $10US, not a bad price, but sometimes will be found for $3.50US. Definitely worth the price even at $10, especially since over 90% of the mods are written for v1.5 of the game.

In the meantime, with the 'modern' computer, Windows, and the old DirectX v9.0c games, such as Silent Hunter 4, you will encounter quite a few graphics issues. Back in the day when the game was written, Windows XP was the OS, and display monitors were analog. Now you have Windows 10/11 and display monitors are LCD. Windows has User Access Control (UAC) and other 'modern' technologies to protect you from yourself, and to do that, Windows "locks" the Program Files folders and most user areas from "unauthorized" editing. Since Silent Hunter 4 and JSGME are "old" legacy apps, they are not "authorized" by the modern Windows to edit any of those folders, so your Steam Library has to be outside of the influence of those Windows folders, such as your D:\Steamapps set-up. You must also have the DirectX v9.0c dll (Dynamic Linked Library) files loaded. Again, you should be fine there, since the Steam install does that.

However, Steam has no clue what you have for a display, so the thing to do is use the Windows screen resolution dialog, and see what it shows the resolution set to, and if it shows " (recommended)" in the listing. That would be your display monitor's "native" resolution. Set Windows to that, and then once in the game menu, see if there isn't a choice in the "Optioins", "Graphic Settings" menu drop-down box. One thing to remember is that the game was written when 4:3 and 5:4 monitors were the norm, but they did have 16:9 available eventually, but not super widescreen, so if you have a 21:9, you might have to "window" and use a 16:9 choice that fits on your display.

In addition to that, and quite possibly your trouble with getting the game to run, is the SH4.exe file's "Properties" settings. By default, Windows wants to "help" pretty things up, smooth them out, and maybe even scale them for you, without consulting you or the game about it, so you have to tell Windows to stay out of the way. Navigate into the game's root folder where the SH4.exe file is, and right-click on it. That will bring up a context menu. On Windows 10, the bottom choice is "Properties. Left-click on that. In Windows 11, the list is much shorter, and "Properties" is usually 2nd from the bottom of the list. When the "Properties" dialog initially opens, you are on the "General" tab. Near the bottom of that page is "Attributes", and a "Read-only" tick box. Be sure that box is clear. Then click on the "Compatibility" tab. On this page, you sometimes have to click on the "Run compatibility troubleshooter" button, but you can try to click on the "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" button, and set it to Windows 7, or a Windows XP. You might also have to tick the "Run this program as an administrator", but you'll have to experiment. In your situation, you most likely have to tick the "Disable fullscreen optimizations", and almost assuredly, click the "Change high DPI settings" and set it to "Application". There are slight differences between Windows 10 and 11 in the display dialogs, but they are slight.

OK your way out, and then use a utility to change the header of the SH4.exe file to use more of your RAM. There is NTCore's 4Gig Patch, which is also available on SubSim in several flavors and versions, or Large Address Aware, of which CapnScurvy did a nice write-up on in his Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install, when he first upgraded from Windows 7 to 10, and explained things nicely. You would not need LAA or similar for the Stock game, but almost all of the mods benefit from the use of one of those utilities. Anyway, let us know how you get along with all this, or if it is too much data too soon...

btw, if the game is running in the background, but not displaying, and you can see it in the Task Manager, use Task Manager to "kill" the process before you do any altering of things. If after adjusting the "Properties" dialog, the game still does that, give a shout and there is a work-around to that by editing a text file. You might also have to empty the game's Save folder ("C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4" by default), and since you are having troubles anyway, would probably be a good idea to do preemptively.

Seewolf_ · 12-14-22, 03:22 AM

So, the game is running now! The solution was probably really the missing addon Uboat Missions. I've already started a career and everything is going great so far. Thanks again to everyone involved! If there are any problems in the course of the career, I will report here again.

Just one last question, can I somehow change the language in the game to German? So the voice output is in German, but the written text is unfortunately not. If that doesn't work, no problem, that would be nice.

regards
sea wolf

KaleunMarco · 12-14-22, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seewolf_

So, the game is running now! The solution was probably really the missing addon Uboat Missions. I've already started a career and everything is going great so far. Thanks again to everyone involved! If there are any problems in the course of the career, I will report here again.

Just one last question, can I somehow change the language in the game to German? So the voice output is in German, but the written text is unfortunately not. If that doesn't work, no problem, that would be nice.

regards
sea wolf

that's great news...that you solved the puzzle and you are up and playing.

the language thing may be a bit of a problem.

you might want to try a search of the Mods forum for a compatible mod. Look for something that was built for either Dark Waters or its predecessor, Op Monsun.

Seewolf_ · 12-15-22, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

that's great news...that you solved the puzzle and you are up and playing.

the language thing may be a bit of a problem.

you might want to try a search of the Mods forum for a compatible mod. Look for something that was built for either Dark Waters or its predecessor, Op Monsun.

Ok, I'll look around for various mods, as I said, that's no problem now, if there had been a quick solution that would have been nice, but it's ok like that. I'm German and for the immersion it would have been nice in German.

Thank you!

12-14-22, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seewolf_

Just one last question, can I somehow change the language in the game to German? So the voice output is in German, but the written text is unfortunately not. If that doesn't work, no problem, that would be nice.

Have you tried from within the Steam App? In the library, right-click the SH4 game and select Properties. If the game has an option to change the language, it should be there.

Seewolf_ · 12-15-22, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JapLance

Have you tried from within the Steam App? In the library, right-click the SH4 game and select Properties. If the game has an option to change the language, it should be there.

Yes, I tried, but there is only English, Spanish and French. But as already written above, if there is no quick and easy solution, that's ok. I'm glad the game is running as smoothly as it is now!

Thank you guys, great community here!!!

bedros · 12-21-22, 02:22 AM

Hi to all guys, I've just installed the mod, I've 2 questions.

1. Crew management: there is "conning tower" station empty, I'm asking if I put men there what would be their job?

2. I'm trying to change torpedo loadout without results, already tried edit basic.cfg and SIM file of submarine.
Someone knows how to do it?

Thanks

12-13-22, 03:43 PM	#3
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,762 Downloads: 441 Uploads: 2	I was expecting Steam to have a Christmas sale going on, but apparently, it either already ran, or has not been done yet, anyway, at $10US, not a bad price, but sometimes will be found for $3.50US. Definitely worth the price even at $10, especially since over 90% of the mods are written for v1.5 of the game. In the meantime, with the 'modern' computer, Windows, and the old DirectX v9.0c games, such as Silent Hunter 4, you will encounter quite a few graphics issues. Back in the day when the game was written, Windows XP was the OS, and display monitors were analog. Now you have Windows 10/11 and display monitors are LCD. Windows has User Access Control (UAC) and other 'modern' technologies to protect you from yourself, and to do that, Windows "locks" the Program Files folders and most user areas from "unauthorized" editing. Since Silent Hunter 4 and JSGME are "old" legacy apps, they are not "authorized" by the modern Windows to edit any of those folders, so your Steam Library has to be outside of the influence of those Windows folders, such as your D:\Steamapps set-up. You must also have the DirectX v9.0c dll (Dynamic Linked Library) files loaded. Again, you should be fine there, since the Steam install does that. However, Steam has no clue what you have for a display, so the thing to do is use the Windows screen resolution dialog, and see what it shows the resolution set to, and if it shows " (recommended)" in the listing. That would be your display monitor's "native" resolution. Set Windows to that, and then once in the game menu, see if there isn't a choice in the "Optioins", "Graphic Settings" menu drop-down box. One thing to remember is that the game was written when 4:3 and 5:4 monitors were the norm, but they did have 16:9 available eventually, but not super widescreen, so if you have a 21:9, you might have to "window" and use a 16:9 choice that fits on your display. In addition to that, and quite possibly your trouble with getting the game to run, is the SH4.exe file's "Properties" settings. By default, Windows wants to "help" pretty things up, smooth them out, and maybe even scale them for you, without consulting you or the game about it, so you have to tell Windows to stay out of the way. Navigate into the game's root folder where the SH4.exe file is, and right-click on it. That will bring up a context menu. On Windows 10, the bottom choice is "Properties. Left-click on that. In Windows 11, the list is much shorter, and "Properties" is usually 2nd from the bottom of the list. When the "Properties" dialog initially opens, you are on the "General" tab. Near the bottom of that page is "Attributes", and a "Read-only" tick box. Be sure that box is clear. Then click on the "Compatibility" tab. On this page, you sometimes have to click on the "Run compatibility troubleshooter" button, but you can try to click on the "Run this program in compatibility mode for:" button, and set it to Windows 7, or a Windows XP. You might also have to tick the "Run this program as an administrator", but you'll have to experiment. In your situation, you most likely have to tick the "Disable fullscreen optimizations", and almost assuredly, click the "Change high DPI settings" and set it to "Application". There are slight differences between Windows 10 and 11 in the display dialogs, but they are slight. OK your way out, and then use a utility to change the header of the SH4.exe file to use more of your RAM. There is NTCore's 4Gig Patch, which is also available on SubSim in several flavors and versions, or Large Address Aware, of which CapnScurvy did a nice write-up on in his Windows10; Large Address Aware; SH4 Install, when he first upgraded from Windows 7 to 10, and explained things nicely. You would not need LAA or similar for the Stock game, but almost all of the mods benefit from the use of one of those utilities. Anyway, let us know how you get along with all this, or if it is too much data too soon... btw, if the game is running in the background, but not displaying, and you can see it in the Task Manager, use Task Manager to "kill" the process before you do any altering of things. If after adjusting the "Properties" dialog, the game still does that, give a shout and there is a work-around to that by editing a text file. You might also have to empty the game's Save folder ("C:\Users \UserName \Documents \SH4" by default), and since you are having troubles anyway, would probably be a good idea to do preemptively. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

12-14-22, 03:22 AM	#4
Seewolf_ Swabbie Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 6 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	So, the game is running now! The solution was probably really the missing addon Uboat Missions. I've already started a career and everything is going great so far. Thanks again to everyone involved! If there are any problems in the course of the career, I will report here again. Just one last question, can I somehow change the language in the game to German? So the voice output is in German, but the written text is unfortunately not. If that doesn't work, no problem, that would be nice. regards sea wolf Last edited by Seewolf_; 12-14-22 at 03:48 AM.

12-21-22, 02:22 AM	#9
bedros Mate Join Date: Aug 2022 Posts: 57 Downloads: 12 Uploads: 0	Torpedo loadout and crew. Hi to all guys, I've just installed the mod, I've 2 questions. 1. Crew management: there is "conning tower" station empty, I'm asking if I put men there what would be their job? 2. I'm trying to change torpedo loadout without results, already tried edit basic.cfg and SIM file of submarine. Someone knows how to do it? Thanks

12-13-22, 10:47 AM	#1
JapLance Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I think it's simpler than that. He probably got SH4: Wolves of the Pacific on Steam, but it's not updated with SH4: U-boat missions. Thus, Dark Waters (and most of SH4 megamods) won't work because the game is not updated to v1.5. @Seewolf_ can you check what version is shown on the lower right corner of the Main Menu screen? It should be 1.5 to run Dark Waters.