Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Skybird]

At the Finnish-Russian border, a traffic jam of over 35 km length should have build up. Russians flee Russia.

[Jimbuna]

^ and this is just the beginning.

[Jimbuna]

Russia will not be able to win nuclear war, - Stoltenberg

Russia will not be able to win a nuclear war - and NATO clearly communicates this to Moscow.

This was stated by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, Censor.NET informs with reference to LIGA.

Putin's nuclear rhetoric is dangerous and irresponsible, but not new, Stoltenberg noted. NATO has not yet seen any changes in the configuration and readiness of the Russian nuclear forces.

"He (Putin, editor) knows that a nuclear war should never start, cannot be won and will lead to unprecedented consequences for Russia," Stoltenberg said.

The Secretary General did not give a direct answer as to what NATO would do in the event of Putin's use of nuclear weapons. The Alliance is doing everything to ensure that there is no misunderstanding in Moscow about the consequences.

"How we will react depends on what the situation will be and what weapons they will use. The most important thing is to prevent this from happening. Therefore, we are very clear in our communication with Russia about the consequences, about the fact that the Russian Federation cannot win a nuclear war - said the Secretary General, adding that NATO is also strengthening its eastern flank. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3368687

[Jimbuna]

Putin’s speech shows that war against Ukraine is not going according to plan - Stoltenberg

The speech of Russian President Vladimir Putin and the partial mobilization in Russia demonstrate that his war against Ukraine is not going according to plan.

This was announced by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, Censor.NET informs with reference to "European Truth".

Stoltenberg noted that Putin's speech about partial mobilization is "an escalation, but not a surprise."

"We will remain calm and continue to support Ukraine. President Putin's speech shows that the war is not going according to President Putin's plans. He miscalculated badly," Stoltenberg said.

According to him, Putin thought that he would be able to establish control over Ukraine within a few days.

"He was forced to withdraw from the north of Ukraine. Then he launched a major offensive in Donbas, this offensive was stopped by Ukrainian forces and now the Ukrainians were able to liberate the territory. The speech and partial mobilization in Russia simply demonstrate that he miscalculated and made major strategic mistakes," - believes NATO Secretary General. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3368695

[Jimbuna]

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

If those 300.000 reservist have been in the military within the last 10 years, then they only need 1-2 month training.

Most of them have been in the military for 1 year or 2 depending on how far back they did the service. It's first lately they have reduced it from 2 years to 1 years.

Though further back they did their military service though more training they need.

Markus

The Russian professional army was already suffering heavy losses because they were so dramatically poorly organized and equipped. If the Kremlin is now calling lots of civilian people back under arms, it is an illusion that these will be the forces that will defeat the hardened Ukrainian military. Those militaries also all need basic training again. By the time they are on the ground, we will be several weeks away and winter is coming.

What Putin may be aiming at is to form an occupying force to annex "annexed" areas such as Luhansk and Donetsk as definitively as possible. The more you mobilize, the more you have to rely on inexperienced military and the weaker your whole organization becomes, actually mobilization is therefore always a weakness.

[Jimbuna]

But not to those that left the military only a few months ago...granted a minority though.

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

Putin’s statement is statement of weakness, - Truss and von der Leyen

The President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, and the Prime Minister of Great Britain, Liz Truss, issued a joint statement in which they called the recent statement of the President of Russia, Vladimir Putin, "a statement of weakness" and assured of supporting Ukraine in its struggle as much as necessary.

The text of the statement made following the meeting at the UN General Assembly in New York, distributed by the press service of the European Commission, Censor.NET reports with reference to Interfax-Ukraine.

"They strongly condemned Russia's actions in Ukraine and agreed that Putin's recent calls for the mobilization of some of the population were a sign that the Russian invasion was failing. This is a statement of weakness. They recognized the courage and bravery of the Ukrainian people and emphasized their shared commitment to support Ukraine in its struggle as much as it needs," the message reads.

In addition, von der Leyen and Truss discussed EU-UK relations, including energy, food security and the Northern Ireland Protocol. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3368714

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

The Russian professional army was already suffering heavy losses because they were so dramatically poorly organized and equipped. If the Kremlin is now calling lots of civilian people back under arms, it is an illusion that these will be the forces that will defeat the hardened Ukrainian military. Those militaries also all need basic training again. By the time they are on the ground, we will be several weeks away and winter is coming.

What Putin may be aiming at is to form an occupying force to annex "annexed" areas such as Luhansk and Donetsk as definitively as possible. The more you mobilize, the more you have to rely on inexperienced military and the weaker your whole organization becomes, actually mobilization is therefore always a weakness.

This was not what I meant-A soldier who left the military 5 years ago need 1-1½ month training to reach same strength and knowledge he had when he left.

A soldier who left 20 years ago-Need at least 6 month of training.

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

This was not what I meant-A soldier who left the military 5 years ago need 1-1½ month training to reach same strength and knowledge he had when he left.

A soldier who left 20 years ago-Need at least 6 month of training.

Markus

That is correct. The longer one is away from something the longer it takes to get back up to speed but I think his point is that those times are dependent upon having qualified trainers to whip them back into shape.

If those professionals are largely fertilizing Ukrainian Sunflower fields it will likely take much longer to train up returning reservists.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by August

That is correct. The longer one is away from something the longer it takes to get back up to speed but I think his point is that those times are dependent upon having qualified trainers to whip them back into shape.

If those professionals are largely fertilizing Ukrainian Sunflower fields so it will likely take much longer to train up returning reservists.

That is true-They the reserve need qualified trainers and as you so poetic put it-professionals are largely fertilizing Ukrainian Sunflower fields

They will find some 70-80 years old General who will get the task.

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^ and this is just the beginning.

As long as Russia keeps the border open.

[Dargo]

Just about the time Iranian drones supplied to Russia began appearing in the skies over Ukraine last week, press reports surfaced purporting a company in Israel is moving to step around the nation’s formal refusal to take sides in the conflict by ushering anti-UAV defense systems to Kyiv using Poland as an intermediary.

First published by the Hebrew language site Zman Yisrael and picked up by its sister publication The Times of Israel, the report alleges that an unnamed defense company plans to deliver the anti-UAV system to an entity in Poland, knowing Ukraine is the intended recipient.

https://dronedj.com/2022/09/19/israe...er-to-ukraine/

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

That is true-They the reserve need qualified trainers and as you so poetic put it-professionals are largely fertilizing Ukrainian Sunflower fields

They will find some 70-80 years old General who will get the task.

Markus

Probably but remember that Generals of any age don't actually train their troops, they just set policy and direction. The actual training and handing of recruits or returning reservists would be (in the west anyways) a sergeants job, and it's those very professional soldiers who are the ones currently fertilizing the sunflowers. (remember that Babushka berating the Russian soldier last spring to fill his pockets with seeds before they killed him? )