Patch for Harpoon ANW 3.8.0 now available

Herman · 05-29-07, 04:23 AM

After nearly a year since the initial release of Harpoon ANW v3.7.0, it looks like Matrix has the Patch for Harpoon ANW 3.8.0 available from their FtP server at:

ftp://ftp.matrixgames.com/pub/Harpoon3ANW/

It looks like it's been up since Friday and no one bothered to tell the world. Now the Harpoon community can evaluate if it was worth the wait.

If this were a movie, we could name it, "50 Weeks Later"

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VCDH · 05-29-07, 10:06 AM

Good morning,

My name is Dale Hillier and I work for AGSI in the development of the Harpoon series of programs. I would like to point out that Herman Hums post does not constitute an official release from neither Matrix or AGSI. Herman Hum does not (and probably never will) work for AGSI or Matrix Games. We would greatly appreciate it if the moderators would remove this post at their earliest opportunity.

If you require further information, please don't hesitate to contact me: dhillier@advancedgaming.biz

Later
D

Hitman · 05-29-07, 10:09 AM

Temporarily closed until I verify some matters:hmm:

Hitman · 05-30-07, 06:50 AM

It seems there is now an announcement in these forums: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1470420

I have had no reply yet from you, VCDH, to a PM I sent you. I can't see anything wrong right now in Herman's post, so I'm leaving this open for now:hmm:

Herman · 05-31-07, 06:42 AM

A comprehensive third-party list of approximately 80 * Known Harpoon [ANW] Issues has been exhaustively collected on GameSquad

Now that the 3.8.0 patch as been released, we checked to see what has changed. While it is by no means definitive, we believe that:

These 34 behaviours appear to have been resolved by the 3.8.0 patch:

Aircraft ignore Nav Zones

Some aircraft on missions are able to fly through Nav Zones.

Work-around solution: Draw a double-thick Nav zone or draw an additional Nav Zone just inside another Nav Zone.
Circling torpedoes

Torpedoes destroy their launching platform. Sometimes this causes a problem for the Victory Condition manager.
LongMathError

GE crashes when doing complex calculations involving units moving at high speed. This is due to the integer math system. Problem appears to be most often encountered when SLBMs launched. ICBMs seem to be okay.
Time Zones

Night and day are reversed so that daytime is actually 1801 to 0559. The H3 world revolves in the opposite direction to real life when calculating Time Zones. Game time is listed in terms of Zulu (GMT). If the scenario is one time zone East of GMT, you would normally ADD one hour to Zulu time to find the local time. However, H3 SUBTRACTS one hour instead.
Fixed ranges for bombs

Maximum range for bombs is fixed at 2nm regardless of the range a database editor may assign.
Plane revert to cruise speed

Individual planes always return to cruise speed after they are given new paths. This does not occur for groups.
Orders disappear

Orders for remaining side disappear when other sides are deleted
Protect Station ViCond reverts to On Station ViCond

"Protect Station" ViCond switches to "On Station" ViCond
SSK do not snort

When a diesel submarine runs out of battery charge, it does not automatically rise to periscope depth to begin re-charging its batteries. Instead, it just sits at the last known depth. Also, even if a player manually orders it to periscope depth, the re-charge process does not work unless the submarine is moving.
BOL Type 65-76 ASW torpedoes come back to kill sub

Type 65-76 ASW torpedoes come back to kill sub when launched on BOL [Bearing-Only-Launch]
Edit Aircraft function does not respect Time / Country restrictions

When Time / Country restrictions are activated by the Launcher, Edit Aircraft function does not respect them when used to add aircraft to facilities. Aircraft directly inserted into a scenario function properly.
Akula at Flank gets passive contact

Akula at Flank is able to get passive contact
E-3 lands and goes to 1092min ready

E-3 lands and goes to 1092min ready time.
CTD when torpedo fired

CTD experienced when BOL torpedo fired from SSN Spartan in Power Sweep scenario run from a server.
Ferry mission fails to execute

Ferry mission fails to execute. If user runs in ScenEdit and orders planes to launch, they mission executes properly.
CTD when Air Station destroyed

CTD when Air Station is destroyed by ALCM.
Sensors won't turn off Intermittent

After sensors have been turned on Intermittent setting, it is not possible to change their setting in the future. Even if a player turns them either on or off, the Intermittent setting returns. Apparently, this is only problematic for multi-player games and does not present itself in solitaire games.
Jamming detected underwater

Submerged units can detect ships emitting ECM.
ViCond polygons don't appear

Only the polygon for the first ViCond appears even when other ViConds are selected.
Missiles ignore cruise altitude

Missiles fired at ground targets ignore the cruise altitude specified in the Database. These same missiles will fly at the proper cruise altitude when fired at ships.
Accuracy / Speed slider affects game execution

Different settings for the game speed / accuracy slider will cause scenarios to execute in a wholly different manner. Missions may execute on one setting but will fail on another speed setting.
Accuracy / Speed slider crashes game

Different settings for the game speed / accuracy slider will cause some scenarios to crash.
Planes disappear from base

After launching and landing, planes disappear from the base.
Recon mission does not work for AI

Recon Mission works for player, but does not work under AI control.
Postures incorrectly re-built

Postures are incorrectly re-estabilished once a unit has been destroyed.
Weapon ranges less than one ignored

Any weapon that has a range less than 1.0 nm, cannot be fired by the AI. However, the player is able to utilize these weapons manually and they appear to operate at the correct range. I do not know if missions created by the player will suffer this restriction, but I suspect that they will since Missions are under AI control.
Strike mission fails to execute

Enemy Unit appears not to be able to plot an intercept path.
ESM at 1800nm

Radar can be detected by ESM at a range of 1800nm. Radar in Europe (Spain) can nearly be detected in N. America.
AC Stuck on Plotted mission

Aircraft on Plotted mission cannot be removed from this mission in Mission Editor
Multi-Player Chat Window appears in solitaire game

After victory has been awarded to a player in solitaire mode, if the player elects to continue, a Multi-Player Chat Window opens when he selects "Yes".
EmCon at Waypoints

Aircraft will obey waypoint EmCon commands if the plane is currently either ACTIVE or PASSIVE (not intermittent). Once the aircraft receives a command to radiate Intermittently, either at the start or at a waypoint, no other EmCon commands will be accepted at future waypoints.
Naval Ground Strike Mission

Ships that are grouped together and on a ground strike mission will fire missiles, but will not close on the target to engage with naval gunfire.

Work-around solution: This only applies to ASuW Area Patrol missions. Missiles will launch on strike missions.
Non-radiating units show as being jammed.

Units that turn off their radar can still show up as being jammed with the "X" next to their icon.
NAV zone ignored II

Aircraft on strike mission flies right through an Aircraft NAV restriction zone. This is not the same as the NAV zone bug reported here.

A few helpful additional features have been added including:

Immediate change of launcher settings - Previously, multi-player users had to always close the launcher in order to have any changes in their settings take effect.
Alphabetization of windows - Scenario editors will find this useful. Many windows in ScenEdit are now alphabetized to more easily find entries.
Classification by Date / Country - Scenario editors using the PlayersDB will find this useful when adding aircraft. Only those aircraft available for the time period will appear in the selection windows.
Additional Database info - More information is available when the Database button is depressed for aircraft. Ranges, speeds, and operating altitudes are now shown.
Minimum Ranges < 1 nm allowed - Database editors will like this one since it allows for better portrayal of suicide bombers.

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Herman · 05-31-07, 06:53 AM

A comprehensive third-party list of approximately 80 * Known Harpoon [ANW] Issues has been exhaustively collected on GameSquad

These 46 behaviours remain unresolved by the 3.8.0 patch:

AAA fire

AAA guns are not limited by the altitude of the target and can even shoot down satellites.
Automatic contact classification

The true type classification of a contact is automatically revealed when it is designated hostile by the hotkey.
Edit Aircraft function

Use of the Edit Aircraft function on a group or base that has pre-set air patrols will cause air formation patrols to be cancelled.
Ferry Mission Crash

If you set up a delayed Ferry mission and the receiving/landing facility (revetment/airfield) is destroyed (or deleted by the designer) before the mission is activated, the game will crash when the AI tries to launch the Ferry mission.
Group Nav Zone Settings

The Nav Zone settings for a Group are not adopted by the individual units forming that Group. i.e. If you order a TF to avoid Ship Threat Zone [A], the Group icon will avoid the Threat Zone but the individual ships of the Group will sail into the Threat Zone.

Work-around solution: Set the Nav Zone parameters for each unit individually.
Identification failure

Sometimes, when you hit the Database button for a unit, only one possible identity is shown but the unit display will still describe it as Unknown.
Replenishment at-sea

Non-functional
Subs in groups

Subs joined with groups are automatically assigned a formation patrol zone on the ASW axis that cannot be changed or modified.
Hangar overload

It is possible to land many more aircraft than the hangar capacity allows.
AI inside Minimum Launch Range

If an AI unit finds itself inside the Minimum Launch Range of its weapons, it is unable to move away in order to fire its weapons.
MAD contact for ground facilities

The MAD detector is able to detect ground facilities.
Sonobuoy battery endurance

Battery endurance for sonobuoys is irrelevant.
ARMs cause planes to hang

Aircraft armed with Anti-Radiation Missiles and bombs will continue to hang over a target once the bombs are released if they have not fired their ARMs. This will occur even if ARMs cannot be fired at the target in question.
Ferry mission crash

Ferry mission crashes if it tries to ferry to a base / ship that has been destroyed.
Opening 3.6.3 scen causes crash

Opening this scenario in ANW causes Crash. Scenario opens and runs fine in H3.6.3
Guns do not fire all ammo when ordered to do so

Guns do not fire all ammo when ordered to do so
Ready times go wild when AI Formation Air Patrols activated

Ready times go wild when AI Formation Air Patrols activated. This does not appear when the AI option is not enabled.
All ammo not available

300 rounds of ammo are shown, but only 44 are offered for fire allocation.
Formation air patrols cancelled by Edit A/C function

Formation air patrols cancelled by use Edit A/C function on the launching platform or hangar.
Plane ignores Nav Zone

Plane totally ignores Nav Zone
Planes disappear from base

Planes were added to a base and assigned to a mission. However, they disappear and access through the Mission editor is not possible.
Mission ignores target list

Targets not restricted to target list for mission.
Fly off the world CTD

It is possible to 'fly off of the world' and cause CTD.
Weapon ignores range limitation

Weapon sometimes ignores range limitation and fires on targets outside of the range set by the Database. This can sometimes result in guns hitting targets 100s of miles away. Often, it occurs when the target is vaguely detected.
Hidden units can be destroyed without detection

When hidden units are part of a group, attacks on the Group Icon can destroy the hidden units without the need to ever detect them.
Units out of range can be destroyed

Units out of range can be destroyed if they are part of a group.
ECM nullifies BOL weapons

ECM nullifies weapons on Bearing-Only-Launch. All missiles are automatically drawn to the jammer regardless if it can hit the target or not due to the Home-on-Jam flag.
Nukes won't work without AALog activated

Nuclear weapons for BCGN Kirov do not work unless AALog is activated.
Sonobuoy deployment altitude

Sonobuoys can be deployed at any altitude.
Sonobuoy datalink cannot be turned off

Although the manual says that sonobuoys can be dropped / discarded by turning off the Comm Datalink to them, this is not true under any realism setting.
Jamming from dead ships

Ships that are destroyed still show the Active Jamming "*" indicator.
Torpedoes ignore cruise depth

Torpedoes ignore cruise depth set by the database even when the "Level Cruise Flight" flag has been set and a value has been entered in the "Cruise Altitude" field. They stay at the depth at which they were fired.
Ground units attacked by Ship Strike mission

Units assigned to Ship Strike missions will attack ground facilities.
Ships attacked by Ground Strike mission

Units assigned to Ground Strike missions will attack ships.
SAVE AS window error

When SAVE or SAVE AS function is selected, other files with either *.SAV or *.SCN suffixes do not appear in the selection window.
Active sonobuoys dropped passively

Sonobuoys with active-only sonar systems are dropped in passive mode even when the "Drop Active Sonobuoy" hotkey is depressed.
Active sonobuoys do not deploy

CASS Active Sonar Sonobuoys carried by S-2 Trackers do not deploy when the "Drop Active Sonobuoy" hotkey is depressed. However, they do deploy with "Drop Passive Sonobuoy".
Max launch speed restriction

When a unit is travelling faster than the Maximum Allowable Launch Speed of the weapons it is carrying and tries to fire them, the weapon allocation table appears and the player is mistakenly given the choice of firing the weapon. The window no longer displays a warning message and restricts player from attempts to fire.
Hellfire do not launch in ODb

Hellfire missiles will not launch even though they appear in the weapons allocation window.
CTD when Database button is depressed

When playing Multi-player games, scenarios will sometimes crash to the desktop when the Database button has been depressed.
Mission fails to navigate without Full throttle setting

Aircraft without a "Full speed" throttle setting in the database are fully functional under manual control, but are unable to calculate a path to their targets under AI control.
Planes directly inserted ignore target list

Planes directly inserted ignore targets listed in strike missions. However, planes that launch on those same strike missions will obey the target strike list and not attack any target not on the list.
All strikers fail to launch

All aircraft assigned to a strike mission fail to launch.
Player loses control

Player loses control of all units in the middle of a game.
Protect ViCond doesn't evaluate properly

Protect ship Victory Condition does not evaluate properly.
Game ends abruptly

When playing Multi-player games, scenarios will end at incorrect times. One side gets a message that it has not fulfilled the ViConds and has lost. He is then kicked from the game even though there is plenty of time remaining. This occurs more often during "high" time compression rate (1:60+).

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Herman · 05-31-07, 06:59 AM

A comprehensive third-party list of approximately 80 * Known Harpoon [ANW] Issues has been exhaustively collected on GameSquad

These 80 new behaviours have been added by the 3.8.0 patch:

Altitude mis-match between Group and units

Units and Group icons show different altitude values in SE.
ANW battleset - File not found

Scenarios not found when trying to load ANW battleset.
ASW/WH torps tracking wrong targets

WH/ASW torps tracking targets they cannot hit.
Ferry mission fails to launch

Ferry mission fails to launch unless manually ordered to do so.
Min engine altitude ignored

Min engine altitude ignored for Trident SLBM. Missile can be launched from a depth deeper that allowed by the engine parameters.
Mixed Unit and Group icon error

Unit and Group icons show up at the same time when platforms deleted in SE.
SSM Altitude crash

Land-based SSMs appear to crash into the surface after launch and ignore their cruise altitude.
Sub changes depth and goes active

A sub on Plotted mission at max depth detects a ship, changes to periscope depth, and goes active on its own.
TALD materialize at wrong point

When firing lots of missiles i.e. TALD, the missiles all originate from the same point even when the plane moves away.
Time compression causes miss

Higher time compression creates automatic miss.
Unknown Sub contacts not attacked

Unknown submarine contacts no longer attacked unless positively identified as hostile.
Weapon Max Launch Speed ignored

Weapons ignore Maximum Launch Speed set in database.
Binoculars jammed

Ground units with only Binoculars for sensors are shown as jammed by ECM.
Passive sonobuoys will not deploy

Passive sonobuoys will not deploy. Active sonobuoys will deploy.
Phantom air group

Phantom air group.
Re-Charge at Int depth

Subs are reported to be re-charging batteries at Intermediate depth, but it is not known if charge levels actually increase.
UnRep broken

Tanker and ship unable to meet for Underway Replenishment.
AI subs will not re-charge batteries

AI-controlled subs will not re-charge batteries when depleted as there is no one around to depress the 'R' hotkey for the AI.
Ammo dumps emptied

Ammo dumps in all scenarios have been emptied of weapons for aircraft.
Ground targets re-engaged prematurely

Targets are being re-engaged prematurely. Missiles are still in flight when successive attacks are launched thus wasting weapons.
Map Scale inaccurate

Map scale is erroneous.
Max altitude for planes is 32,767m

The Max altitude for planes is now 32,767m. Previously, it was unlimited and could simulate satellite platforms.
MP Saved game titles

MP Saved game titles often use portions of the orders in lieu of the Session name.
SSK rises early

Diesel subs rise to Periscope depth long before their batteries are exhausted.
Subs re-charge at Creep

Subs are able to re-charge batteries without running throttles at Flank speed.
Type 65-76 disappear on BOL

Type 65-76 torpedoes disappear after reaching activation point even though they have copious fuel remaining.
Unassign command sound missing

Use of the Unassign Hotkey command on groups will elicit an audible "ping". However, this audible cue is missing when the same command is issued to individual units.
CTD ViCond crash when windows closed out of order

When setting ViCond, the ScenEditor can crash when windows are closed out of sequence from which they were opened.
ViCond Set polygon not possible

It is not possible to set up a Victory Condition polygon. Once the ViCond menu comes up, designer cannot click on the map to designate a polygon.
AAA firing past Max Range

Guns continue to fire long after targets pass out of range.
AAW patrol motionless

AAW patrol motionless instead of flying between assigned reference points.
Accuracy slider changes combat

Accuracy slider changes combat calculation. Combat may or may not occur dependant upon the setting of the slider from Low/Fast Accuracy/Speed and High/Slow.
Accuracy slider changes combat II

Accuracy slider changes combat calculation. Air strike resolves differently when slider set on Low/Fast or High/Slow Accuracy setting.
Air Group formation

Air Groups do not form properly when the launching platform is destroyed before the group is fully launched.
CTD with Re-build Scenario function

Crash to the desktop when Scenario Rebuild - Re-build All Units is selected with AxisEvil.scn.
Dead top after torp evasion

Escort comes to a dead stop after torpedo evasion.
Destroyed planes not counted on Installations

Planes added to Installations are not counted in Victory Conditions when they are destroyed on the ground.
Dual speeds selected

When ships are damaged, sometimes dual speeds are show in the throttle setting.
EmCon does not match display

EmCon status of units does not match the EmCon state shown in Unit display and there is no way to turn it off..
Engagement symbol missing

Overscore symbol over aircraft fails to appear when engaged by AAA unless one of the aircraft are shot down.
F1 Key will not attack

F1 Key will not attack second target.
F6 Key will not attack

F6 Key will not attack target.
Generic strikes seek additional targets

Generic strikes seek additional targets after initial target is destroyed even if secondary targets have no relation to original target.
Haphazard weapons re-loading

Weapons do not reload with weapon previously fired.
Inconsistent RoF

Guns have different rates of fire between H3.6.3. and ANW.
Indexation status false

ANW Launcher claim that "most community-databases do not support" indexation by Time and Country is false.
Min Firing Range prohibits weapon use

Weapons (guns, ASW rockets, and others) with a Minimum Firing Range value > 0 will not fire.
Missiles drawn to wrong targets

Missiles fired at targets located with pinpoint precision are still drawn to other targets.
Nav Zones re-set by mission editor

Nav Zones are re-set by mission editor every time a mission is edited.
On Station ViCond does not trigger in MP

On Station Victory Condition triggers erratically.
Phantom mounts shown on aircraft

Phantom mounts are shown on aircraft when the Logistics button is pushed.
Planes jammed against Nav Zone

Planes are unable to plot path around Nav Zone.
Propulsion ranges import improperly

Propulsion ranges do not import to the Reimer Editor properly. Ranges with a speed of Zero will not import even when those ranges are required for proper platform behaviour in units such as mines and false contacts.
Ready display always visible

Aircraft ready display shows all planes available at a base regardless of the Base's ability to launch them. Previously, when a base was damaged, those aircraft not able to launch (i.e. Large/VLarge planes) no longer showed up in the Ready menu until the runway was repaired.
Ready Times shortened

Aircraft with long ready times can have them shortened to the default 30 minutes.
Re-build All causes planes to loiter

Planes that normally flew at cruise speed go to loiter when Re-Built All command is used.
Runways can be destroyed

Runway facilities can now be destroyed.
Sanity check fails for multiple weapons records

Sanity check reports an error when a Quantity value >1 is entered beside a Weapons Record in either the Loadout tabel or the Magazine table even though this causes no problem for the game, itself.
Sanity check fails for propulsion alt bands

Sanity check reports an error if altitude bands for propulsion entries are not in sequential order.
Sanity check fails for propulsion max alt

Sanity check fails to report an error if the max altitude for the propulsion system is greater than the allowable altitude for the aircraft.
Sanity check fails for Ready Times

Sanity check fails to account for different Ready Times in loadout table. Loadouts that have identical weapons with only differ in Ready Times are identified as 'duplicate' entries by the Sanity Check.
Scen locks up at 15 secs into game

Scenario freezes 15 seconds after start of game.
SE shows different results from GE

ScenEdit shows different results from Game Engine test.
Sensor default values are zero

When Sensor menu [F9] is activated for individual units or groups, all default values are Zero. Previously, the default values were 1 min Active followed by 5 minutes Passive for all types of sensors. Proper default values of 1min/5min appear if a group of separate units are "drag-selected" and then the F9 hotkey is depressed.
Sonar detects facility

Land facility detected by sonar.
SSMs ignore delayed strike mission

Land-based SSMs ignore delay time for Strike missions.
Strike Mission continues to dead target

Strike Mission continues to target even after it is already destroyed.
Strike Mission fails to cancel

Ground Strike Mission fails to cancel after target is destroyed.
Strikes fail to launch

Air strikes that performed properly in ANW 3.7.0 now fail to launch at all.
Submarine evades own torpedoes

Submarine evades her own wake-homing torpedoes after firing. This does not occur with wire-guided torpedoes.
Subs fire SS-N-15 under the ice

Submarines are able to fire SS-N-15 Starfish while under polar ice.
Subs surfacing under ice

Submarines are able to rise to the surface from under the ice pack and run on the surface.
Subsequent strikes are disorganized

Subsequent strikes are disorganized and launch in separate groups.
Support missions do not fully launch

Not all aircraft assigned to support missions launch as they previously did in H3.6.3.
Torps chase improper targets

Torpedoes chase the improper targets once they reach their activation point even though all potential targets are identical.
Tubes Cannot Change Loadout

Torpedo tube loadouts cannot be changed after re-loading by AI.
Unarmed units not engaged

Unarmed units will not be engaged by AI units (sub or ship) on Plotted mission. This is due to the fact that the targets pose no 'threat' to the AI unit thus elicits no response. Once weapons are added to the targets, they are immediately attacked.
Unassigned SSMs do not fire

Unassigned land-based SSMs will fire on ships, but not against land targets.
Unit cannot plot course

Unit is unable to plot a course that enables it to leave port and proceed to Formation patrol zone.
Wrong altitude shown

TLAM shows Periscope depth.

Confirmation / verification files for this list can be found:

http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/harp...nw-issues.html

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05-29-07, 04:23 AM	#1
Herman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,185 Downloads: 269 Uploads: 1046	Patch for Harpoon ANW 3.8.0 now available After nearly a year since the initial release of Harpoon ANW v3.7.0, it looks like Matrix has the Patch for Harpoon ANW 3.8.0 available from their FtP server at: ftp://ftp.matrixgames.com/pub/Harpoon3ANW/ It looks like it's been up since Friday and no one bothered to tell the world. Now the Harpoon community can evaluate if it was worth the wait. If this were a movie, we could name it, "50 Weeks Later" Home of the Harpoon3 PlayersDB FilesOfScenShare __________________ Guidelines for ScenShare scenarios: 1) Enjoy creating it 2) Enjoy playing it 3) Enjoy sharing it 4) Enjoy helping others create them The PlayersDB - The Harpoon Community's #1 Choice. Harpoon3 Frequently Asked Questions

05-29-07, 10:06 AM	#2
VCDH Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 5 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Good morning, My name is Dale Hillier and I work for AGSI in the development of the Harpoon series of programs. I would like to point out that Herman Hums post does not constitute an official release from neither Matrix or AGSI. Herman Hum does not (and probably never will) work for AGSI or Matrix Games. We would greatly appreciate it if the moderators would remove this post at their earliest opportunity. If you require further information, please don't hesitate to contact me: dhillier@advancedgaming.biz Later D __________________ "Men have died. Boys. Eighteen year old conscripts. I blew them away and burned them alive. Oh well, it's what I do." Lt. JG Justin 'Sleaze' Olson 'The Sixth Battle' by Barrett Tillman

05-29-07, 10:09 AM	#3
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Temporarily closed until I verify some matters:hmm: __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

05-30-07, 06:50 AM	#4
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	It seems there is now an announcement in these forums: http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1470420 I have had no reply yet from you, VCDH, to a PM I sent you. I can't see anything wrong right now in Herman's post, so I'm leaving this open for now:hmm: __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

05-31-07, 06:42 AM	#5
Herman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,185 Downloads: 269 Uploads: 1046	Patch for Harpoon ANW 3.8.0 now available A comprehensive third-party list of approximately 80 * Known Harpoon [ANW] Issues has been exhaustively collected on GameSquad Now that the 3.8.0 patch as been released, we checked to see what has changed. While it is by no means definitive, we believe that: These 34 behaviours appear to have been resolved by the 3.8.0 patch: Aircraft ignore Nav Zones Some aircraft on missions are able to fly through Nav Zones. Work-around solution: Draw a double-thick Nav zone or draw an additional Nav Zone just inside another Nav Zone. Circling torpedoes Torpedoes destroy their launching platform. Sometimes this causes a problem for the Victory Condition manager. LongMathError GE crashes when doing complex calculations involving units moving at high speed. This is due to the integer math system. Problem appears to be most often encountered when SLBMs launched. ICBMs seem to be okay. Time Zones Night and day are reversed so that daytime is actually 1801 to 0559. The H3 world revolves in the opposite direction to real life when calculating Time Zones. Game time is listed in terms of Zulu (GMT). If the scenario is one time zone East of GMT, you would normally ADD one hour to Zulu time to find the local time. However, H3 SUBTRACTS one hour instead. Fixed ranges for bombs Maximum range for bombs is fixed at 2nm regardless of the range a database editor may assign. Plane revert to cruise speed Individual planes always return to cruise speed after they are given new paths. This does not occur for groups. Orders disappear Orders for remaining side disappear when other sides are deleted Protect Station ViCond reverts to On Station ViCond "Protect Station" ViCond switches to "On Station" ViCond SSK do not snort When a diesel submarine runs out of battery charge, it does not automatically rise to periscope depth to begin re-charging its batteries. Instead, it just sits at the last known depth. Also, even if a player manually orders it to periscope depth, the re-charge process does not work unless the submarine is moving. BOL Type 65-76 ASW torpedoes come back to kill sub Type 65-76 ASW torpedoes come back to kill sub when launched on BOL [Bearing-Only-Launch] Edit Aircraft function does not respect Time / Country restrictions When Time / Country restrictions are activated by the Launcher, Edit Aircraft function does not respect them when used to add aircraft to facilities. Aircraft directly inserted into a scenario function properly. Akula at Flank gets passive contact Akula at Flank is able to get passive contact E-3 lands and goes to 1092min ready E-3 lands and goes to 1092min ready time. CTD when torpedo fired CTD experienced when BOL torpedo fired from SSN Spartan in Power Sweep scenario run from a server. Ferry mission fails to execute Ferry mission fails to execute. If user runs in ScenEdit and orders planes to launch, they mission executes properly. CTD when Air Station destroyed CTD when Air Station is destroyed by ALCM. Sensors won't turn off Intermittent After sensors have been turned on Intermittent setting, it is not possible to change their setting in the future. Even if a player turns them either on or off, the Intermittent setting returns. Apparently, this is only problematic for multi-player games and does not present itself in solitaire games. Jamming detected underwater Submerged units can detect ships emitting ECM. ViCond polygons don't appear Only the polygon for the first ViCond appears even when other ViConds are selected. Missiles ignore cruise altitude Missiles fired at ground targets ignore the cruise altitude specified in the Database. These same missiles will fly at the proper cruise altitude when fired at ships. Accuracy / Speed slider affects game execution Different settings for the game speed / accuracy slider will cause scenarios to execute in a wholly different manner. Missions may execute on one setting but will fail on another speed setting. Accuracy / Speed slider crashes game Different settings for the game speed / accuracy slider will cause some scenarios to crash. Planes disappear from base After launching and landing, planes disappear from the base. Recon mission does not work for AI Recon Mission works for player, but does not work under AI control. Postures incorrectly re-built Postures are incorrectly re-estabilished once a unit has been destroyed. Weapon ranges less than one ignored Any weapon that has a range less than 1.0 nm, cannot be fired by the AI. However, the player is able to utilize these weapons manually and they appear to operate at the correct range. I do not know if missions created by the player will suffer this restriction, but I suspect that they will since Missions are under AI control. Strike mission fails to execute Enemy Unit appears not to be able to plot an intercept path. ESM at 1800nm Radar can be detected by ESM at a range of 1800nm. Radar in Europe (Spain) can nearly be detected in N. America. AC Stuck on Plotted mission Aircraft on Plotted mission cannot be removed from this mission in Mission Editor Multi-Player Chat Window appears in solitaire game After victory has been awarded to a player in solitaire mode, if the player elects to continue, a Multi-Player Chat Window opens when he selects "Yes". EmCon at Waypoints Aircraft will obey waypoint EmCon commands if the plane is currently either ACTIVE or PASSIVE (not intermittent). Once the aircraft receives a command to radiate Intermittently, either at the start or at a waypoint, no other EmCon commands will be accepted at future waypoints. Naval Ground Strike Mission Ships that are grouped together and on a ground strike mission will fire missiles, but will not close on the target to engage with naval gunfire. Work-around solution: This only applies to ASuW Area Patrol missions. Missiles will launch on strike missions. Non-radiating units show as being jammed. Units that turn off their radar can still show up as being jammed with the "X" next to their icon. NAV zone ignored II Aircraft on strike mission flies right through an Aircraft NAV restriction zone. This is not the same as the NAV zone bug reported here. A few helpful additional features have been added including: Immediate change of launcher settings - Previously, multi-player users had to always close the launcher in order to have any changes in their settings take effect. Alphabetization of windows - Scenario editors will find this useful. Many windows in ScenEdit are now alphabetized to more easily find entries. Classification by Date / Country - Scenario editors using the PlayersDB will find this useful when adding aircraft. Only those aircraft available for the time period will appear in the selection windows. Additional Database info - More information is available when the Database button is depressed for aircraft. Ranges, speeds, and operating altitudes are now shown. Minimum Ranges < 1 nm allowed - Database editors will like this one since it allows for better portrayal of suicide bombers. 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05-31-07, 06:53 AM	#6
Herman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,185 Downloads: 269 Uploads: 1046	Patch for Harpoon ANW 3.8.0 now available A comprehensive third-party list of approximately 80 * Known Harpoon [ANW] Issues has been exhaustively collected on GameSquad These 46 behaviours remain unresolved by the 3.8.0 patch: AAA fire AAA guns are not limited by the altitude of the target and can even shoot down satellites. Automatic contact classification The true type classification of a contact is automatically revealed when it is designated hostile by the hotkey. Edit Aircraft function Use of the Edit Aircraft function on a group or base that has pre-set air patrols will cause air formation patrols to be cancelled. Ferry Mission Crash If you set up a delayed Ferry mission and the receiving/landing facility (revetment/airfield) is destroyed (or deleted by the designer) before the mission is activated, the game will crash when the AI tries to launch the Ferry mission. Group Nav Zone Settings The Nav Zone settings for a Group are not adopted by the individual units forming that Group. i.e. If you order a TF to avoid Ship Threat Zone [A], the Group icon will avoid the Threat Zone but the individual ships of the Group will sail into the Threat Zone. Work-around solution: Set the Nav Zone parameters for each unit individually. Identification failure Sometimes, when you hit the Database button for a unit, only one possible identity is shown but the unit display will still describe it as Unknown. Replenishment at-sea Non-functional Subs in groups Subs joined with groups are automatically assigned a formation patrol zone on the ASW axis that cannot be changed or modified. Hangar overload It is possible to land many more aircraft than the hangar capacity allows. AI inside Minimum Launch Range If an AI unit finds itself inside the Minimum Launch Range of its weapons, it is unable to move away in order to fire its weapons. MAD contact for ground facilities The MAD detector is able to detect ground facilities. Sonobuoy battery endurance Battery endurance for sonobuoys is irrelevant. ARMs cause planes to hang Aircraft armed with Anti-Radiation Missiles and bombs will continue to hang over a target once the bombs are released if they have not fired their ARMs. This will occur even if ARMs cannot be fired at the target in question. Ferry mission crash Ferry mission crashes if it tries to ferry to a base / ship that has been destroyed. Opening 3.6.3 scen causes crash Opening this scenario in ANW causes Crash. Scenario opens and runs fine in H3.6.3 Guns do not fire all ammo when ordered to do so Guns do not fire all ammo when ordered to do so Ready times go wild when AI Formation Air Patrols activated Ready times go wild when AI Formation Air Patrols activated. This does not appear when the AI option is not enabled. All ammo not available 300 rounds of ammo are shown, but only 44 are offered for fire allocation. Formation air patrols cancelled by Edit A/C function Formation air patrols cancelled by use Edit A/C function on the launching platform or hangar. Plane ignores Nav Zone Plane totally ignores Nav Zone Planes disappear from base Planes were added to a base and assigned to a mission. However, they disappear and access through the Mission editor is not possible. Mission ignores target list Targets not restricted to target list for mission. Fly off the world CTD It is possible to 'fly off of the world' and cause CTD. Weapon ignores range limitation Weapon sometimes ignores range limitation and fires on targets outside of the range set by the Database. This can sometimes result in guns hitting targets 100s of miles away. Often, it occurs when the target is vaguely detected. Hidden units can be destroyed without detection When hidden units are part of a group, attacks on the Group Icon can destroy the hidden units without the need to ever detect them. Units out of range can be destroyed Units out of range can be destroyed if they are part of a group. ECM nullifies BOL weapons ECM nullifies weapons on Bearing-Only-Launch. All missiles are automatically drawn to the jammer regardless if it can hit the target or not due to the Home-on-Jam flag. Nukes won't work without AALog activated Nuclear weapons for BCGN Kirov do not work unless AALog is activated. Sonobuoy deployment altitude Sonobuoys can be deployed at any altitude. Sonobuoy datalink cannot be turned off Although the manual says that sonobuoys can be dropped / discarded by turning off the Comm Datalink to them, this is not true under any realism setting. Jamming from dead ships Ships that are destroyed still show the Active Jamming "" indicator. Torpedoes ignore cruise depth* Torpedoes ignore cruise depth set by the database even when the "Level Cruise Flight" flag has been set and a value has been entered in the "Cruise Altitude" field. They stay at the depth at which they were fired. Ground units attacked by Ship Strike mission Units assigned to Ship Strike missions will attack ground facilities. Ships attacked by Ground Strike mission Units assigned to Ground Strike missions will attack ships. SAVE AS window error When SAVE or SAVE AS function is selected, other files with either .SAV or .SCN suffixes do not appear in the selection window. Active sonobuoys dropped passively Sonobuoys with active-only sonar systems are dropped in passive mode even when the "Drop Active Sonobuoy" hotkey is depressed. Active sonobuoys do not deploy CASS Active Sonar Sonobuoys carried by S-2 Trackers do not deploy when the "Drop Active Sonobuoy" hotkey is depressed. However, they do deploy with "Drop Passive Sonobuoy". Max launch speed restriction When a unit is travelling faster than the Maximum Allowable Launch Speed of the weapons it is carrying and tries to fire them, the weapon allocation table appears and the player is mistakenly given the choice of firing the weapon. The window no longer displays a warning message and restricts player from attempts to fire. Hellfire do not launch in ODb Hellfire missiles will not launch even though they appear in the weapons allocation window. CTD when Database button is depressed When playing Multi-player games, scenarios will sometimes crash to the desktop when the Database button has been depressed. Mission fails to navigate without Full throttle setting Aircraft without a "Full speed" throttle setting in the database are fully functional under manual control, but are unable to calculate a path to their targets under AI control. Planes directly inserted ignore target list Planes directly inserted ignore targets listed in strike missions. However, planes that launch on those same strike missions will obey the target strike list and not attack any target not on the list. All strikers fail to launch All aircraft assigned to a strike mission fail to launch. Player loses control Player loses control of all units in the middle of a game. Protect ViCond doesn't evaluate properly Protect ship Victory Condition does not evaluate properly. Game ends abruptly When playing Multi-player games, scenarios will end at incorrect times. One side gets a message that it has not fulfilled the ViConds and has lost. He is then kicked from the game even though there is plenty of time remaining. This occurs more often during "high" time compression rate (1:60+). Home of the Harpoon3 PlayersDB __________________ Guidelines for ScenShare scenarios: 1) Enjoy creating it 2) Enjoy playing it 3) Enjoy sharing it 4) Enjoy helping others create them The PlayersDB - The Harpoon Community's #1 Choice. Harpoon3 Frequently Asked Questions

05-31-07, 06:59 AM	#7
Herman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,185 Downloads: 269 Uploads: 1046	Patch for Harpoon ANW 3.8.0 now available A comprehensive third-party list of approximately 80 * Known Harpoon [ANW] Issues has been exhaustively collected on GameSquad These 80 new behaviours have been added by the 3.8.0 patch: Altitude mis-match between Group and units Units and Group icons show different altitude values in SE. ANW battleset - File not found Scenarios not found when trying to load ANW battleset. ASW/WH torps tracking wrong targets WH/ASW torps tracking targets they cannot hit. Ferry mission fails to launch Ferry mission fails to launch unless manually ordered to do so. Min engine altitude ignored Min engine altitude ignored for Trident SLBM. Missile can be launched from a depth deeper that allowed by the engine parameters. Mixed Unit and Group icon error Unit and Group icons show up at the same time when platforms deleted in SE. SSM Altitude crash Land-based SSMs appear to crash into the surface after launch and ignore their cruise altitude. Sub changes depth and goes active A sub on Plotted mission at max depth detects a ship, changes to periscope depth, and goes active on its own. TALD materialize at wrong point When firing lots of missiles i.e. TALD, the missiles all originate from the same point even when the plane moves away. Time compression causes miss Higher time compression creates automatic miss. Unknown Sub contacts not attacked Unknown submarine contacts no longer attacked unless positively identified as hostile. Weapon Max Launch Speed ignored Weapons ignore Maximum Launch Speed set in database. Binoculars jammed Ground units with only Binoculars for sensors are shown as jammed by ECM. Passive sonobuoys will not deploy Passive sonobuoys will not deploy. Active sonobuoys will deploy. Phantom air group Phantom air group. Re-Charge at Int depth Subs are reported to be re-charging batteries at Intermediate depth, but it is not known if charge levels actually increase. UnRep broken Tanker and ship unable to meet for Underway Replenishment. AI subs will not re-charge batteries AI-controlled subs will not re-charge batteries when depleted as there is no one around to depress the 'R' hotkey for the AI. Ammo dumps emptied Ammo dumps in all scenarios have been emptied of weapons for aircraft. Ground targets re-engaged prematurely Targets are being re-engaged prematurely. Missiles are still in flight when successive attacks are launched thus wasting weapons. Map Scale inaccurate Map scale is erroneous. Max altitude for planes is 32,767m The Max altitude for planes is now 32,767m. Previously, it was unlimited and could simulate satellite platforms. MP Saved game titles MP Saved game titles often use portions of the orders in lieu of the Session name. SSK rises early Diesel subs rise to Periscope depth long before their batteries are exhausted. Subs re-charge at Creep Subs are able to re-charge batteries without running throttles at Flank speed. Type 65-76 disappear on BOL Type 65-76 torpedoes disappear after reaching activation point even though they have copious fuel remaining. Unassign command sound missing Use of the Unassign Hotkey command on groups will elicit an audible "ping". However, this audible cue is missing when the same command is issued to individual units. CTD ViCond crash when windows closed out of order When setting ViCond, the ScenEditor can crash when windows are closed out of sequence from which they were opened. ViCond Set polygon not possible It is not possible to set up a Victory Condition polygon. Once the ViCond menu comes up, designer cannot click on the map to designate a polygon. AAA firing past Max Range Guns continue to fire long after targets pass out of range. AAW patrol motionless AAW patrol motionless instead of flying between assigned reference points. Accuracy slider changes combat Accuracy slider changes combat calculation. Combat may or may not occur dependant upon the setting of the slider from Low/Fast Accuracy/Speed and High/Slow. Accuracy slider changes combat II Accuracy slider changes combat calculation. Air strike resolves differently when slider set on Low/Fast or High/Slow Accuracy setting. Air Group formation Air Groups do not form properly when the launching platform is destroyed before the group is fully launched. CTD with Re-build Scenario function Crash to the desktop when Scenario Rebuild - Re-build All Units is selected with AxisEvil.scn. Dead top after torp evasion Escort comes to a dead stop after torpedo evasion. Destroyed planes not counted on Installations Planes added to Installations are not counted in Victory Conditions when they are destroyed on the ground. Dual speeds selected When ships are damaged, sometimes dual speeds are show in the throttle setting. EmCon does not match display EmCon status of units does not match the EmCon state shown in Unit display and there is no way to turn it off.. Engagement symbol missing Overscore symbol over aircraft fails to appear when engaged by AAA unless one of the aircraft are shot down. F1 Key will not attack F1 Key will not attack second target. F6 Key will not attack F6 Key will not attack target. Generic strikes seek additional targets Generic strikes seek additional targets after initial target is destroyed even if secondary targets have no relation to original target. Haphazard weapons re-loading Weapons do not reload with weapon previously fired. Inconsistent RoF Guns have different rates of fire between H3.6.3. and ANW. Indexation status false ANW Launcher claim that "most community-databases do not support" indexation by Time and Country is false. Min Firing Range prohibits weapon use Weapons (guns, ASW rockets, and others) with a Minimum Firing Range value > 0 will not fire. Missiles drawn to wrong targets Missiles fired at targets located with pinpoint precision are still drawn to other targets. Nav Zones re-set by mission editor Nav Zones are re-set by mission editor every time a mission is edited. On Station ViCond does not trigger in MP On Station Victory Condition triggers erratically. Phantom mounts shown on aircraft Phantom mounts are shown on aircraft when the Logistics button is pushed. Planes jammed against Nav Zone Planes are unable to plot path around Nav Zone. Propulsion ranges import improperly Propulsion ranges do not import to the Reimer Editor properly. Ranges with a speed of Zero will not import even when those ranges are required for proper platform behaviour in units such as mines and false contacts. Ready display always visible Aircraft ready display shows all planes available at a base regardless of the Base's ability to launch them. Previously, when a base was damaged, those aircraft not able to launch (i.e. Large/VLarge planes) no longer showed up in the Ready menu until the runway was repaired. Ready Times shortened Aircraft with long ready times can have them shortened to the default 30 minutes. Re-build All causes planes to loiter Planes that normally flew at cruise speed go to loiter when Re-Built All command is used. Runways can be destroyed Runway facilities can now be destroyed. Sanity check fails for multiple weapons records Sanity check reports an error when a Quantity value >1 is entered beside a Weapons Record in either the Loadout tabel or the Magazine table even though this causes no problem for the game, itself. Sanity check fails for propulsion alt bands Sanity check reports an error if altitude bands for propulsion entries are not in sequential order. Sanity check fails for propulsion max alt Sanity check fails to report an error if the max altitude for the propulsion system is greater than the allowable altitude for the aircraft. Sanity check fails for Ready Times Sanity check fails to account for different Ready Times in loadout table. Loadouts that have identical weapons with only differ in Ready Times are identified as 'duplicate' entries by the Sanity Check. Scen locks up at 15 secs into game Scenario freezes 15 seconds after start of game. SE shows different results from GE ScenEdit shows different results from Game Engine test. Sensor default values are zero When Sensor menu [F9] is activated for individual units or groups, all default values are Zero. Previously, the default values were 1 min Active followed by 5 minutes Passive for all types of sensors. Proper default values of 1min/5min appear if a group of separate units are "drag-selected" and then the F9 hotkey is depressed. Sonar detects facility Land facility detected by sonar. SSMs ignore delayed strike mission Land-based SSMs ignore delay time for Strike missions. Strike Mission continues to dead target Strike Mission continues to target even after it is already destroyed. Strike Mission fails to cancel Ground Strike Mission fails to cancel after target is destroyed. Strikes fail to launch Air strikes that performed properly in ANW 3.7.0 now fail to launch at all. Submarine evades own torpedoes Submarine evades her own wake-homing torpedoes after firing. This does not occur with wire-guided torpedoes. Subs fire SS-N-15 under the ice Submarines are able to fire SS-N-15 Starfish while under polar ice. Subs surfacing under ice Submarines are able to rise to the surface from under the ice pack and run on the surface. Subsequent strikes are disorganized Subsequent strikes are disorganized and launch in separate groups. Support missions do not fully launch Not all aircraft assigned to support missions launch as they previously did in H3.6.3. Torps chase improper targets Torpedoes chase the improper targets once they reach their activation point even though all potential targets are identical. Tubes Cannot Change Loadout Torpedo tube loadouts cannot be changed after re-loading by AI. Unarmed units not engaged Unarmed units will not be engaged by AI units (sub or ship) on Plotted mission. This is due to the fact that the targets pose no 'threat' to the AI unit thus elicits no response. Once weapons are added to the targets, they are immediately attacked. Unassigned SSMs do not fire Unassigned land-based SSMs will fire on ships, but not against land targets. Unit cannot plot course Unit is unable to plot a course that enables it to leave port and proceed to Formation patrol zone. Wrong altitude shown TLAM shows Periscope depth. 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