US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Rockstar]

So, the only one arrested at Trumps arraignment was a Democrat resorting to violence.


“Anti-Trump protester in prison uniform holding 'lock him up' sign is arrested for running in front of ex-president's motorcade as secret service swiftly moves in to detain him“

[Rockstar]

Rising tribalism and political street fights could be a precursor to civil war

We are now at the "President has Arrested his political rival" phase.

Libs and leftists will make any and every argument as to why its justified but of course that doesnt matter

Every dictator gives a reason why they arrest their rivals (see Putin for instance)

BIDEN: “Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power by — if we — if he does run. I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.”

[mapuc]

- Former President has taken top secret paper from office when they left..Said Trump yesterday.

I can't say if they did.

What I wonder is, how did they treat these top secret ?

From the news here we learned that Trump treated these papers badly..Almost every person who hasn't the right to read these paper, could do so.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

- Former President has taken top secret paper from office when they left..Said Trump yesterday.

I can't say if they did.

What I wonder is, how did they treat these top secret ?

From the news here we learned that Trump treated these papers badly..Almost every person who hasn't the right to read these paper, could do so.

Markus

I think the problem most voters have with what’s going on is that previous presidents including Biden have done the same thing. To top it off Biden has also made it publicly known he is trying to prevent the only candidate who can beat him in an election from ever running again.

BIDEN: “Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power by — if we — if he does run. I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.”

It was no secret everybody knew what documents Trump had in his possession while his lawyers were trying to make the case they were his, just like other presidents have done.

[Rockstar]

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I think the problem most voters have with what’s going on is that previous presidents including Biden have done the same thing. To top it off Biden has also made it publicly known he is trying to prevent the only candidate who can beat him in an election from ever running again.

It was no secret everybody knew what documents Trump had in his possession while his lawyers were trying to make the case they were his, just like other presidents have done.

If true then it is...a political scandal.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Ya think? Of course it’s politically motivated, Biden’s own words confirm that. Made even by easier the mob of brainless, gullible, halfwits, out there who believe or push every accusation they hear and the sadists who simply don’t care and just enjoy inflicting pain. It’s scary when you start thinking about how many of those people like that are out there, including The Neue Zürcher Zeitung.

[August]

DeSantis is a better choice than Trump to drain the deep state as he has the administrative ability to actually do it.

EXCLUSIVE: The DeSantis Plan To Wage War on ‘Weaponized’ DOJ


Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has been working for months on plans to tear down and rebuild both the Department of Justice and the FBI, consulting with experts and members of Congress to develop a “Day One” strategy to end what conservatives see as the weaponization of the justice system.
The governor has privately told advisors that he will hire and fire plenty of federal personnel, reorganize entire agencies, and execute a “disciplined” and “relentless” strategy to restore the Justice Department to a mission more in line with what the “Founding Fathers envisioned.”
But his ambitions go beyond bureaucratic restructuring. He wants to physically remove large swathes of the DOJ from the District of Columbia, including FBI headquarters, RealClearPolitics is first to report.
“We’re not going to let all this power accumulate in Washington, we’re going to break up these agencies,” DeSantis said during a private strategy session over the weekend, excerpts of which were obtained exclusively by RCP. He vowed in that call to order “some of the problematic components of the DOJ” be uprooted, reorganized, and then promptly “shipped to other parts of the country.”
This fits with one of the central themes of the DeSantis campaign, namely that he’d be “an energetic executive,” a president with the focus and attention to detail necessary to make the most of his Article II powers. On the stump, the governor regularly wins applause from primary voters for promising not just to wage war on the so-called deep state, but to end it.
The goal, according to senior outside advisors, ought to be returning the DOJ and FBI to a more limited “pre-9/11” mission. Republicans were outraged last Friday when former President Trump was indicted for mishandling classified documents. DeSantis has condemned that move, and his campaign scheduled the Saturday conference call “not knowing,” he told advisors, that there would be “news last night.” But the governor is also intimately familiar with conservative gripes about political bias inside President Biden’s Department of Justice. They have been central to his campaign.
“We’ve seen throughout this country that the DOJ and the FBI are controlled by one faction of our society,” DeSantis said on the call, pointing to how those agencies were “going after pro-life activists,” wrongfully investigating parents at school board meetings “who are concerned about things like critical race theory, and forcing kids to wear masks,” and “colluding with tech companies to censor information such as what they did with the 2020 election.”

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...zed_doj.html#2

[Rockstar]

[Buddahaid]

That’s the cheap copout version. It’s really because Trump willfully retained and obstructed to keep the documents instead of cooperating on their recovery. He continues to lie to his base about that and lie about the Presidential Records Act. He has only himself to blame for this indictment, and, he is being treated with kid gloves instead of cooling his heels in detention as any other citizen would be in the same circumstance. Remember all this started well before he announced his candidacy which gives the lie to the election interference claims which he now tries to get sympathy with.

[mapuc]

^ This is what they have said here in the news, that Trump in no way have cooperated with the FBI.

I'm still thinking on this claim that Biden should have said he would prevent him from running again.

As I wrote before if true then it is a political scandal.

Markus

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by mapuc

^This is what they have said here in the news, that Trump in no way have cooperated with the FBI.

He contested the demands through legal channels and eventually turned over the documents.

I'm still thinking on this claim that Biden should have said he would prevent him from running again.

As I wrote before if true then it is a political scandal.

Markus

The comment is documented on the official U.S. Government 'The White House' website. you'll have to scroll down almost halfway to find it where Phil Mattingly from CNN begins asking questions

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...-conference-8/

Okay. Phil. Phil Mattingly, CNN.

...

Q So the entire genesis of that G7 conversation was tied to your predecessor, who is about to launch another campaign. So how do you reassure them, if that is the reason for their questioning, that the former President will not return or that his political movement, which is still very strong, will not —

THE PRESIDENT: Oh, yeah? (Laughs.)

Q — once again take power in the United States?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power by — if we — if he does run. I’m making sure he, under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.

Q Thanks.

[Buddahaid]

That claim is BS. Biden has no need to say anything as Trump will self destruct on his own.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

That claim is BS. Biden has no need to say anything as Trump will self destruct on his own.

The words said by Biden is there on whitehouse.gov homepage.
Which Rockstar linked to.

Why he said it I can't say.

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Voltaire: Every paper currency ultimately returns to its intrinsic value: zero.

The guy in that video is late with his warning in that video. I warn of these developments since years.

BTW, neither the US-Dollar, nor any other FIAT money including Pound Sterling and D-Mark, were ever stable currencies. They all constantly lost buying power. The stable D-Mark is a well-nursed German myth, it was indeed soft like melting butter, and the Dollar before the flood of symptoms for a systemic crisis 2007 had already lost - I now forgot the exact number, but it was in the range of over 90% - the dollar had lost 90+% of its buying power compared to its status at the end of the civil war. I think it was 97% loss that I red in a book two or three years ago. You get the idea.

FIAT money IS NO MONEY. Its counting units, not money. Real money is a commodity like any other. This does not mean imagining an intrinsically worthless FIAT currency and then demanding that it be treated like a real commodity with intrinsic value, but it means that an existing commodity is entrusted by consensus of market participants with the additional functions of a real money - universal exchangeability, practical denomination, indestructibility, limited physical availability, etc. - and thus becomes the money of this market. At the same time, this money always has the intrinsic value that the market assigns to this commodity. Politicians, and this is what annoys them about it, have no say in this formation of value. They cannot endlessly waste it to bribe voters. This places limits on their ability to issue money, because the reserves of such money are physically limited, and the quantity cannot be inflated at will, as is the case with FIAT currency. The purpose of central banks and FIAT currency is to be able to issue unlimited amounts of counterfeit money, and to talk people into buying state-announced worthless scraps of paper for their real, intrinsically valuable goods, commodities and possessions that then end up somewhere up the food chain. In the worst case one forces the people then with weapon at point blank range to give out their values for worthless state scrap receipt. Robbery, in other words. This is called a gold ban, or socialization of private property. And then democracies are just as vicious and brutal and greedy as socialist dictatorships.

To say "Wehret den Anfängen", is unfortunately too late, because these beginnings are already years and decades behind us. Also the Euro, and especially the Euro, has been introduced for this purpose. Unification of the European currencies, then their dematerialization by conversion into pure digital mumbo-jumbo. And then nobody can escape the plundering and enslavement anymore. And there we go straight into the medival feudalism.

What is the intrinsic value of bits or bytes? Probably measured in electrons?

The introduction of a gold-backed currency system does not require millions of tons of gold, as some say. Basically, a few high hundred to low thousands will do. That China and Russia and a few others will drop the dollar in the long run and try a gold-backed currency - well, I've been predicting that for more than ten years.

People, hold material, movable property that you can hide from the state, the big plunderer. Paper stuff is paper stuff when the devil dances on the tables. You can wipe your butts with it. And you can't even do that with just digital money.

FIAT money, centralks banks, fractional reserve banking - the three gravediggers of every economy and nation. And in the end: of liberty, freedom.