UBI pulling access to SH5 DLC and decommissioning the game

[theroc44]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

theroc44! nuthin like moral outrage and the infamous 7-year-itch to bring a man to the surface...nice "silent run"!

Cheers mate, wish it was better circumstances.

[theroc44]

so i contacted the support, apparently they said it would still work, but I think they have no idea what they're talking about.


"Hello can I please get some clarification on the future of silent hunter 5.
Is this game not playable,at all, offline after september 1? Even the singleplayer campaign?

Thank you for the clarification."

"Hello,

Thank you for contacting Ubisoft!

For Silent Hunter 5:

1) You will be unable to link Ubisoft accounts in-game or use online features.

2) The installation and access to DLC will be unavailable.

Closing the online services for some older games allows us to focus our resources on delivering great experiences for players who are playing newer or more popular titles.

Thank you for your understanding. If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out to us and we will do our best to assist you.

Best Regards,
Ubi-Rony
Ubisoft Support Team"

"I'm sorry, does that mean I will be able to play silent hunter 5?"


"Thank you for contacting Ubisoft support. I will be more than happy to assist you with this.

Please note that the offline features of the games are unaffected and remain available to you. Please refer to this for more information-
https://www.ubisoft.com/en-gb/help/a...ames/000064576

Please feel free to reach out if you ever have any concerned questions, issues, or feedback down the track.

Kind Regards,
Ubi-Jagat
Ubisoft Support"


They save games actually connect to the servers, unless there is a patch for that I doubt it works like they said. Who knows if its accurate or not.....

[kapuhy]

From phrasing used I'd suspect you were answered by a bot. That, or a person hired as "Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V Key Combinations Operator"

Originally Posted by theroc44

They save games actually connect to the servers, unless there is a patch for that I doubt it works like they said. Who knows if its accurate or not.....

Saves are stored on your PC and backed up in a cloud, so I guess you can play without server connection, only you wouldn't be able to load your saves on another computer.

[Jonesy]

Even one of my favorite YouTube videogame review guy has picked up on this, you usually don't see subsimms getting attention.


He has said on his discord that Ubisoft has commented in the meantime as said that "the games will work" after this,
Let's hope this is correct.

[Jeff-Groves]

Originally Posted by ImBatman

force tc to drop to 1 every single time? Tried adjusting tc settings both in main.cfg and in sh3 commander. Oh well.

Set the TC to a higher value then 1 and you'll not drop out of TC.
Say you like 512 TC. Set them at 1024


I assume you were using the 2 files I sent a link to for SH5?

[ImBatman]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Set the TC to a higher value then 1 and you'll not drop out of TC.
Say you like 512 TC. Set them at 1024


I assume you were using the 2 files I sent a link to for SH5?

No, i was lashing out about my switch to sh3. That problem has been fixed, thanks to the link provided by stork100. H.sie mod fixes sh3's penchant to drop out of tc when a radio message arrives. A very annoying problem when combined with gwx adding lots of radio messages.

I can get the sh5 files to work, but apparently the game is programmed in such a way that the campaign is bugged out (at least in twos, not sure about stock because i have to go thru tutorial first) unless the exe talks to ubi launcher at least once.

Once they discontinue access to the game, i think the campaign will be unplayable after a new install, which sooner or later will be inevitable. Campaign is the only reason i play these games so im going to assume the worst and cut losses, move to sh3, and wait and see if any new info clears up the sh5 debacle.

[Jeff-Groves]

Then I'll ask others to do a fresh install of SH5 and give them a link to the 2 files and do some testing with them.

I have a saved install that I don't use. I can see some differences in some files.
Like R2.rw in that install is 18,968 KB
In the one I run for testing R2.rw is 23,723 KB

I suspect the last time I connected through Ubi Connect it was updated.
That would have been 4 years ago.

For SH3? I have the files needed to totally remove the old StarForce and also remove all traces of Steam.
They are DIRECT from Ubi before StarForce was added and before Steam became a Data mining PITA!

[ImBatman]

Per my experimentation, using your files, a copy of dvd exe patched with tdw patcher, and steam exe with tdw patcher and steam fix in twos installer, its the same story for me. No getting out of bunker in campaign, unless exe talks to ubi launcher. After that, ubi can be cut loose with no problem.

Now, i have nowhere near the experience this board has with this sort of thing, so i could be making a mistake somewhere.

[Jeff-Groves]

Can you Give me a list of files in your base SH5 folder where SH5.exe is?

To make that easy? Here's a batch file.
Copy the text below and make a new txt file.
Name it files.bat
Past the lines below in it and save. Then double click it after moving it to your SH5 Base folder.
It will create a file named list txt.


cls
cmd/K dir/B *.* > list.txt
cls
end


Now. UbiSoft has been up for Sale since April. That may be why they are turning stuff off.
Maybe a last patch will be released. BUT down side is............
A New owner would get all source code and rights and MIGHT enforce NO SCREWING WITH THE GAME.

And per the license? They may be able to take ALL Mods released and use them as they wish!

[ImBatman]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Can you Give me a list of files in your base SH5 folder where SH5.exe is?

To make that easy? Here's a batch file.
Copy the text below and make a new txt file.
Name it files.bat
Past the lines below in it and save. Then double click it after moving it to your SH5 Base folder.
It will create a file named list txt.


cls
cmd/K dir/B *.* > list.txt
cls
end


Now. UbiSoft has been up for Sale since April. That may be why they are turning stuff off.
Maybe a last patch will be released. BUT down side is............
A New owner would get all source code and rights and MIGHT enforce NO SCREWING WITH THE GAME.

And per the license? They may be able to take ALL Mods released and use them as they wish!

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C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunter 5>C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Silent Hunter 5>

[Jeff-Groves]

OK. That's a modded version of SH5.

We need to start from a fresh clean install.
Reason is to identify a fresh install and see about doing our own update to files.

Guess I'll do a fresh install from DVD to get the information. My DVD is from the day SH5 was released in the USA.

[ImBatman]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

OK. That's a modded version of SH5.

We need to start from a fresh clean install.
Reason is to identify a fresh install and see about doing our own update to files.

Guess I'll do a fresh install from DVD to get the information. My DVD is from the day SH5 was released in the USA.

Oops! I'm at work now so what you got was the version that's on my laptop.


DVD will probably be better anyway. If the game is totally discontinued, discs will be the best way to keep it alive. I've got a dvd on the way. Also, a copy of sh3. It's the one in the two pack with sh2, so it's supposed to be totally free of starforce. As you can see, I have little faith in companies making anything like this anytime soon. There's Uboat, which is a good game in its own right, but other than that I don't see anyone taking up the mantle to make something resembling a Silent Hunter 6.



It's too bad, but I guess this type of thing just doesn't hold people's attention spans these days. I could go on a rant about "kids these days" but I'm in my 30's, so I don't know what the problem is.

[Jeff-Groves]

I'll be 65 come January.
Ya Young whipper Snapper!

[ImBatman]

Steam store page has been updated. Game is once again available to purchase, and it says only dlc and online features will end after sept 1.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4..._the_Atlantic/

[Jonesy]

Either it was a.communication error between Ubisoft and Steam (this is the official line) or they reacted to the backlash