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Old 04-14-22, 12:19 PM   #1
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I am using sh4 ommode, is there a way to use xxi from 1939?
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Old 04-14-22, 03:17 PM   #2
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I am using sh4 om mod, is there a way to use xxi from 1939?
NOT without working up a whole rewrite of the files associated with it. entry date, equipment files, weapons... everything that is associated for the XXI files & such.

Am sure that others can step in here & give a more... well defined answer than what I gave here.




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Old 04-14-22, 03:44 PM   #3
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I am using sh4 ommode, is there a way to use xxi from 1939?
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NOT without working up a whole rewrite of the files associated with it. entry date, equipment files, weapons... everything that is associated for the XXI files & such.

Am sure that others can step in here & give a more... well defined answer than what I gave here.




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in SH4 there is more to boat availability than the boat itself.
so, no there isn't a simple way to make the XXI available in 1939.
the XXI boat was never deployed in real life and has been buggy from the start of SH4...even in Stock.
you can get one in 1944 in OpM and DW but be prepared for some unexpected issues.

one more item... it is strongly suggested that you migrate your ATO activity from Op Monson to Dark Waters as DW has resolved many of the OpM issues plus it has been enhanced.

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Old 04-19-22, 05:49 AM   #4
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Base idea is here:
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...527#post316527

So just replace start year from 1943+ year to 1939 in mentioned above files.
After manipulation with Basic.cfg; Flotillia.cfg ; SH3 folder NS_Uboat21 <-> NSS_Uboat18 (for SH4) - do "smart replacement" from string
Code:
;[SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI
Copy last block for 1945 year - copy, paste and modify as
Code:
;[SUBMARINE_AMMO11];XXI
[SUBMARINE_AMMO10]
Type=3
Version=0
ForeTubes=6
AftTubes=0
ForeResIntern=17
ForeResExtern=0
ForeResExtra=0
AftResIntern=0
AftResExtern=0
ShellSlots=10
NbYears=7
Renown=11


Year1=1939
ForeTube10=3 ;T1
ForeTube11=3
ForeTube12=1
ForeTube13=1
ForeTube14=4
ForeTube15=4
ForeResIntern10=3
ForeResIntern11=3
ForeResIntern12=3
ForeResIntern13=3
ForeResIntern14=3
ForeResIntern15=3
ForeResIntern16=3
ForeResIntern17=6
ForeResIntern18=6
ForeResIntern19=1
ForeResIntern110=1
ForeResIntern111=1
ForeResIntern112=1
ForeResIntern113=4
ForeResIntern114=4
ForeResIntern115=4
ForeResIntern116=4
Z01_10=12 ; IX/3
A01_10=9
A02_10=9
SuperCharger_10=-1
Snorkel_10=1262
Batteries_10=1269
AftBatteries_10=1269
Hydrophone_10=1272
Sonar_10=1274
Radar_10=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_10=1282
Decoy_Launcher_10=1286
SonarCoatings_10=1303
RadarCoatings_10=-1
Renown0=0


Year1=1940
ForeTube10=3 ;T1
ForeTube11=3
ForeTube12=1
ForeTube13=1
ForeTube14=4
ForeTube15=4
ForeResIntern10=3
ForeResIntern11=3
ForeResIntern12=3
ForeResIntern13=3
ForeResIntern14=3
ForeResIntern15=3
ForeResIntern16=3
ForeResIntern17=6
ForeResIntern18=6
ForeResIntern19=1
ForeResIntern110=1
ForeResIntern111=1
ForeResIntern112=1
ForeResIntern113=4
ForeResIntern114=4
ForeResIntern115=4
ForeResIntern116=4
Z01_10=12 ; IX/3
A01_10=9
A02_10=9
SuperCharger_10=-1
Snorkel_10=1262
Batteries_10=1269
AftBatteries_10=1269
Hydrophone_10=1272
Sonar_10=1274
Radar_10=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_10=1282
Decoy_Launcher_10=1286
SonarCoatings_10=1303
RadarCoatings_10=-1
Renown1=0


Year1=1941
ForeTube10=3 ;T1
ForeTube11=3
ForeTube12=1
ForeTube13=1
ForeTube14=4
ForeTube15=4
ForeResIntern10=3
ForeResIntern11=3
ForeResIntern12=3
ForeResIntern13=3
ForeResIntern14=3
ForeResIntern15=3
ForeResIntern16=3
ForeResIntern17=6
ForeResIntern18=6
ForeResIntern19=1
ForeResIntern110=1
ForeResIntern111=1
ForeResIntern112=1
ForeResIntern113=4
ForeResIntern114=4
ForeResIntern115=4
ForeResIntern116=4
Z01_10=12 ; IX/3
A01_10=9
A02_10=9
SuperCharger_10=-1
Snorkel_10=1262
Batteries_10=1269
AftBatteries_10=1269
Hydrophone_10=1272
Sonar_10=1274
Radar_10=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_10=1282
Decoy_Launcher_10=1286
SonarCoatings_10=1303
RadarCoatings_10=-1
Renown2=0

Year1=1942
ForeTube10=3 ;T1
ForeTube11=3
ForeTube12=1
ForeTube13=1
ForeTube14=4
ForeTube15=4
ForeResIntern10=3
ForeResIntern11=3
ForeResIntern12=3
ForeResIntern13=3
ForeResIntern14=3
ForeResIntern15=3
ForeResIntern16=3
ForeResIntern17=6
ForeResIntern18=6
ForeResIntern19=1
ForeResIntern110=1
ForeResIntern111=1
ForeResIntern112=1
ForeResIntern113=4
ForeResIntern114=4
ForeResIntern115=4
ForeResIntern116=4
Z01_10=12 ; IX/3
A01_10=9
A02_10=9
SuperCharger_10=-1
Snorkel_10=1262
Batteries_10=1269
AftBatteries_10=1269
Hydrophone_10=1272
Sonar_10=1274
Radar_10=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_10=1282
Decoy_Launcher_10=1286
SonarCoatings_10=1303
RadarCoatings_10=-1
Renown3=0


Year1=1943
ForeTube10=3 ;T1
ForeTube11=3
ForeTube12=1
ForeTube13=1
ForeTube14=4
ForeTube15=4
ForeResIntern10=3
ForeResIntern11=3
ForeResIntern12=3
ForeResIntern13=3
ForeResIntern14=3
ForeResIntern15=3
ForeResIntern16=3
ForeResIntern17=6
ForeResIntern18=6
ForeResIntern19=1
ForeResIntern110=1
ForeResIntern111=1
ForeResIntern112=1
ForeResIntern113=4
ForeResIntern114=4
ForeResIntern115=4
ForeResIntern116=4
Z01_10=12 ; IX/3
A01_10=9
A02_10=9
SuperCharger_10=-1
Snorkel_10=1262
Batteries_10=1269
AftBatteries_10=1269
Hydrophone_10=1272
Sonar_10=1274
Radar_10=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_10=1282
Decoy_Launcher_10=1286
SonarCoatings_10=1303
RadarCoatings_10=-1
Renown4=0


Year1=1944
ForeTube10=3 ;T1
ForeTube11=3
ForeTube12=1
ForeTube13=1
ForeTube14=4
ForeTube15=4
ForeResIntern10=3
ForeResIntern11=3
ForeResIntern12=3
ForeResIntern13=3
ForeResIntern14=3
ForeResIntern15=3
ForeResIntern16=3
ForeResIntern17=6
ForeResIntern18=6
ForeResIntern19=1
ForeResIntern110=1
ForeResIntern111=1
ForeResIntern112=1
ForeResIntern113=4
ForeResIntern114=4
ForeResIntern115=4
ForeResIntern116=4
Z01_10=12 ; IX/3
A01_10=9
A02_10=9
SuperCharger_10=-1
Snorkel_10=1262
Batteries_10=1269
AftBatteries_10=1269
Hydrophone_10=1272
Sonar_10=1274
Radar_10=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_10=1282
Decoy_Launcher_10=1286
SonarCoatings_10=1303
RadarCoatings_10=-1
Renown5=0


Year1=1945
ForeTube10=3 ;T1
ForeTube11=3
ForeTube12=1
ForeTube13=1
ForeTube14=4
ForeTube15=4
ForeResIntern10=3
ForeResIntern11=3
ForeResIntern12=3
ForeResIntern13=3
ForeResIntern14=3
ForeResIntern15=3
ForeResIntern16=3
ForeResIntern17=6
ForeResIntern18=6
ForeResIntern19=1
ForeResIntern110=1
ForeResIntern111=1
ForeResIntern112=1
ForeResIntern113=4
ForeResIntern114=4
ForeResIntern115=4
ForeResIntern116=4
Z01_10=12 ; IX/3
A01_10=9
A02_10=9
SuperCharger_10=-1
Snorkel_10=1262
Batteries_10=1269
AftBatteries_10=1269
Hydrophone_10=1272
Sonar_10=1274
Radar_10=1278
RadarWarningReceiver_10=1282
Decoy_Launcher_10=1286
SonarCoatings_10=1303
RadarCoatings_10=-1
Renown6=0
Don't forget to do the same on MODS\Patch.. \ Data files too (if they exist for your patches/ mods)
And go \Data\UPCDataGE\UPCCampaignData
file: CareerStart.upc
Replace in [CareerStart 1.Flotilla 1] section (if you want to start 1-st Flotilla)
Code:
IDLinkUserPlayerUnits= F1IIB, 4, F1VIIB, 2
to
Code:
IDLinkUserPlayerUnits= F1IIB, 4, F1VIIB, 2, F5XVIII, 3
Then go Flotillas.upc (the same directory)
add before ;--------------------IIB------------------Minen----------- string follow block
Code:
[Flotilla 1.UserPlayerUnitType 4]
ID= F5XVIII
NameDisplayable= U-Boot tipo XVIIII
AvailabilityInterval= 1939-01-30, 1945-08-30
IDLinkUserPlayerUnitType= XVIIII
UnitTypeCommonality= 5  		
IDFlotillaLinkTransferTo= 11Flotilla
So as result you will be able to select type XX! submarine when starting new campaign (1-st Flotilla 1939). Just in case don't forget to replace all torpedos to T1 according 1939 year.

Worked for me for Knighs of Sea Depth 2 addon to SH4.

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Old 04-19-22, 12:11 PM   #5
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Old 04-19-22, 02:01 PM   #6
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Time compression is for noobs. No time speed acceleration.
Only hardcore, only 1 (real time) x 1 (in-game time).

UPD: And last problem - Flotillas.upc need to add blocks for XXI type submarine: since each sub type has it's own missions/objects (check inside file), create your own missions for XXI or take II/VII missions and replace them for XXI.
But main is that you can ride XXI type in 1939 and game will not crash in loading process.
Maybe some kind understanding person will make MOD for us.

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