SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > Silent Hunter 3 - 4 - 5 > Silent Hunter 4: Wolves of the Pacific
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-30-22, 10:33 PM   #1
hunter301
Sonar Guy
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 377
Downloads: 38
Uploads: 0
Default Running Multiple Copies of SH4??

I finally got the Gold Edition V1.5 of SH4 up and running properly in Steam and I don't want to mess that up. Would like to get some war patrols or maybe even a campaign going.
However I have been dying to try out the FOTRS Ultimate MOD out from all the videos I'm seeing and I was wondering is it possible to run 2 separate games with the same title if it's loaded into a different area?
Besides the Steam version that I purchased this past memorial weekend I also have another download from Amazon that is not related to Steam that I purchased back in 2019. It is the same Gold Edition V1.5 with U-boat mission adds.
I was wondering if I could install to a separate file area and use it as my clean copy to play around with the MODs.
Any thoughts?
__________________
"Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed.
Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land."- The Lawgiver

"You know what the chain of command is?
It's the chain I get and beat you with till you understand who's in command."
-ME
hunter301 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-22, 11:06 PM   #2
KaleunMarco
Silent Hunter
 
KaleunMarco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicago area, which is more dangerous than Omaha Beach.
Posts: 3,893
Downloads: 431
Uploads: 26


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter301 View Post
I finally got the Gold Edition V1.5 of SH4 up and running properly in Steam and I don't want to mess that up. Would like to get some war patrols or maybe even a campaign going.
However I have been dying to try out the FOTRS Ultimate MOD out from all the videos I'm seeing and I was wondering is it possible to run 2 separate games with the same title if it's loaded into a different area?
Besides the Steam version that I purchased this past memorial weekend I also have another download from Amazon that is not related to Steam that I purchased back in 2019. It is the same Gold Edition V1.5 with U-boat mission adds.
I was wondering if I could install to a separate file area and use it as my clean copy to play around with the MODs.
Any thoughts?
use MultiSH4. it is in the downloads forum.
follow the instructions and you should be fine.
__________________
there are only two things in the world: submarines and targets.
Fortis et stabilis et fidelis, semper


------------------------------------------------------------
Silent Hunter 4 1.5 Gold Edition on CDROM
LAA enabled
Dell XPS with 32 GB Ram running Win10
KaleunMarco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-22, 11:36 PM   #3
hunter301
Sonar Guy
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 377
Downloads: 38
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KaleunMarco View Post
use MultiSH4. it is in the downloads forum.
follow the instructions and you should be fine.
Thanks.
I'll look into it.
BTW.. I see in your signature that you have an original box CD/DVD version of the game.
Same here. I've had it since it first came out with maps and all. The Gold Edition.
Can you run those without the player if you do a full install?
I have a high speed CD/DVD reader that plugs into my laptop for just such a reason.
__________________
"Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed.
Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land."- The Lawgiver

"You know what the chain of command is?
It's the chain I get and beat you with till you understand who's in command."
-ME
hunter301 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-22, 12:03 AM   #4
KaleunMarco
Silent Hunter
 
KaleunMarco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicago area, which is more dangerous than Omaha Beach.
Posts: 3,893
Downloads: 431
Uploads: 26


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter301 View Post
Can you run those without the player if you do a full install?
i do not understand what you mean? can you give me more context?
__________________
there are only two things in the world: submarines and targets.
Fortis et stabilis et fidelis, semper


------------------------------------------------------------
Silent Hunter 4 1.5 Gold Edition on CDROM
LAA enabled
Dell XPS with 32 GB Ram running Win10
KaleunMarco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-22, 01:20 AM   #5
hunter301
Sonar Guy
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 377
Downloads: 38
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KaleunMarco View Post
i do not understand what you mean? can you give me more context?
Sorry.
Meant to say can you run the game without the CD/DVD player if you do a full install?
__________________
"Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed.
Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land."- The Lawgiver

"You know what the chain of command is?
It's the chain I get and beat you with till you understand who's in command."
-ME
hunter301 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-22, 08:05 AM   #6
Xerxes
Bosun
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 65
Downloads: 82
Uploads: 10
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KaleunMarco View Post
use MultiSH4. it is in the downloads forum.
follow the instructions and you should be fine.

Here's my question: Is it possible to have two installations from steam?

I'm not sure, and i'm edging towards no, I can't think of a way to do it.
__________________
Quote:
“There are no desperate situations, there are only desperate people." -Heinz Guderian
Xerxes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-22, 09:00 AM   #7
1Patriotofmany
Commander
 
1Patriotofmany's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 441
Downloads: 92
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xerxes View Post
Here's my question: Is it possible to have two installations from steam?

I'm not sure, and i'm edging towards no, I can't think of a way to do it.
I run the steam version I have multiple separate mod folders for each mode. Start with a clean install. I happen to have mine in E: Program files(X86)>Steam>Steamapps>Common>Then individual folders for each Mod......It's highly suggested not to use C:Program files(x86) for your Steam installation point.


Once you have a clean install just copy and paste everything IN the folder Silent Hunter wolves of the pacific at the Steam.Steamapps.common location, and paste them in a different name folder I use OM darkwaters, Berbsters,Fotrs, JapSh4, TMOSH4, Wediveatdawn, ect.
Once the clean copy is installed in a new mod folder, add Large address aware and activate(make sure it's pointing at the SH4 in your new folder), add JSGME don't activate yet, add MultiSH4 1.5 and change the standard three letter save point to something like OMD if you're using OM drakwaters,TMO if your using TMOmod ect. Then install the mod you're putting in the new folder. Lastly make and rename a shortcut from the SH4 in the folder and paste on your desktop. Hope this helps

Last edited by 1Patriotofmany; 05-31-22 at 09:10 AM.
1Patriotofmany is online   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-22, 10:04 AM   #8
KaleunMarco
Silent Hunter
 
KaleunMarco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicago area, which is more dangerous than Omaha Beach.
Posts: 3,893
Downloads: 431
Uploads: 26


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter301 View Post
Sorry.
Meant to say can you run the game without the CD/DVD player if you do a full install?
definitely!
i only use the media when i absolutely-positively need it.
here is a tried-and-true-methodology:
  1. perform the install to a folder other than C:/Program Files(x86). Most put it in C:\Ubisoft\something of your choosing.
  2. use Winzip or 7-zip or whatever compression app you have a license to and make a zipped copy of what you just installed. this is your master copy that you will keep safe-and-sound.
  3. then you can create additional folders under the Ubisoft folder for all of the additional SH4 scenarios that you will want to run: Stock, GFO, TMO_BH, FOTRSU, etc. you will create a new folder and then unzip SH4 from your master copy into the new folder. then...
  4. Use Multish4 to create the Save Folder environment for your new installation.
  5. then, go sink some ships with either Stock or whatever mega-mod you choose...without the need to keep using your cd/dvd media.

does this sound do-able?
__________________
there are only two things in the world: submarines and targets.
Fortis et stabilis et fidelis, semper


------------------------------------------------------------
Silent Hunter 4 1.5 Gold Edition on CDROM
LAA enabled
Dell XPS with 32 GB Ram running Win10
KaleunMarco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-22, 04:03 PM   #9
Xerxes
Bosun
 
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 65
Downloads: 82
Uploads: 10
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Patriotofmany View Post
I run the steam version I have multiple separate mod folders for each mode. Start with a clean install. I happen to have mine in E: Program files(X86)>Steam>Steamapps>Common>Then individual folders for each Mod......It's highly suggested not to use C:Program files(x86) for your Steam installation point.


Once you have a clean install just copy and paste everything IN the folder Silent Hunter wolves of the pacific at the Steam.Steamapps.common location, and paste them in a different name folder I use OM darkwaters, Berbsters,Fotrs, JapSh4, TMOSH4, Wediveatdawn, ect.
Once the clean copy is installed in a new mod folder, add Large address aware and activate(make sure it's pointing at the SH4 in your new folder), add JSGME don't activate yet, add MultiSH4 1.5 and change the standard three letter save point to something like OMD if you're using OM drakwaters,TMO if your using TMOmod ect. Then install the mod you're putting in the new folder. Lastly make and rename a shortcut from the SH4 in the folder and paste on your desktop. Hope this helps

Thanks!
__________________
Quote:
“There are no desperate situations, there are only desperate people." -Heinz Guderian
Xerxes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-22, 10:19 AM   #10
1Patriotofmany
Commander
 
1Patriotofmany's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 441
Downloads: 92
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xerxes View Post
Thanks!
and of course activate the mod by JSGME in the new folder when you're done all that.. I keep the original fresh copy untouched except for JSGME, Large address aware and multish4 1.5 in with the fresh copy, so i can just copy everything into a new mod folder later on, rather than search for the files.
1Patriotofmany is online   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-22, 03:15 PM   #11
Mad Mardigan
Admiral
 
Mad Mardigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Grand Rapids, Mi.
Posts: 2,327
Downloads: 491
Uploads: 0


wolf_howl15

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Patriotofmany View Post
and of course activate the mod by JSGME in the new folder when you're done all that.. I keep the original fresh copy untouched except for JSGME, Large address aware and multish4 1.5 in with the fresh copy, so i can just copy everything into a new mod folder later on, rather than search for the files.
A trick, that I added to My own repertoire Myself... on adding into the virgin, 'GOLD Standard' copy of doing multi copies with Steam version.... for just that reason.
__________________
Mad Mardigan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-22, 04:15 PM   #12
CaptMagilla
Bilge Rat
 
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 1
Downloads: 1
Uploads: 0
Nuke Question from a beginner

I was playing a Career Mode game and I got fidgitey and started messing with different controls. unfortunately, I toggled the Throttle(?) and saw the digital numbers. I impulsively tried to make the Sub go faster, but it didn't. Unfortunately, the needle stuck on the speed I tried,and then I just got 'cannot comply' statements, no matter the speed or direction. I quit the game, but every other selection I made, I got the same response, about 3/4 of the way thru. So I uninstalled the game and re-installed in a different directory. But still have the same problem...3/4 thru any Career or War Patrol, the Sub stops and I get 'Cannot comply' ,and that's the end.
Sure could use your help on this...I am fairly computer savvy.
CaptMagilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-22, 06:29 PM   #13
Aktungbby
Gefallen Engel U-666
 
Aktungbby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy
Posts: 27,709
Downloads: 22
Uploads: 0


Default welcome aboard!

CaptMagilla!
__________________

"Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"
Aktungbby is online   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-22, 06:42 PM   #14
KaleunMarco
Silent Hunter
 
KaleunMarco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicago area, which is more dangerous than Omaha Beach.
Posts: 3,893
Downloads: 431
Uploads: 26


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptMagilla View Post
I was playing a Career Mode game and I got fidgitey and started messing with different controls. unfortunately, I toggled the Throttle(?) and saw the digital numbers. I impulsively tried to make the Sub go faster, but it didn't. Unfortunately, the needle stuck on the speed I tried,and then I just got 'cannot comply' statements, no matter the speed or direction. I quit the game, but every other selection I made, I got the same response, about 3/4 of the way thru. So I uninstalled the game and re-installed in a different directory. But still have the same problem...3/4 thru any Career or War Patrol, the Sub stops and I get 'Cannot comply' ,and that's the end.
Sure could use your help on this...I am fairly computer savvy.
welcome to SH4.

more than likely, you have called your crew to Battle Stations and left them there too long. They are fatigued from weariness.
go to the crew management screen and click on a crewman and check their fatigue level.
if, per chance, your crew is not fatigued, there could be a whole host of reasons you are experiencing a difficulty.
we'll go through that exercise after you check your crew.
__________________
there are only two things in the world: submarines and targets.
Fortis et stabilis et fidelis, semper


------------------------------------------------------------
Silent Hunter 4 1.5 Gold Edition on CDROM
LAA enabled
Dell XPS with 32 GB Ram running Win10

Last edited by KaleunMarco; 06-01-22 at 09:33 PM.
KaleunMarco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-22, 06:59 PM   #15
Mad Mardigan
Admiral
 
Mad Mardigan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Grand Rapids, Mi.
Posts: 2,327
Downloads: 491
Uploads: 0


radar Re: Welcome aboard...

CaptMagilla!
__________________
Mad Mardigan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2024 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.