Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Russian forces are hardly copping in Ukraine its border is wide open, do not see them risking a war with NATO they do not have material or personnel for that.

I do not know how Putin works psychologically...I don't know what that man could come up with.

You're right Russia does not have the manpower, material or the skills to take on NATO. However it's what's going on in Putin's head that decided whether the war will end peaceful or....

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I do not know how Putin works psychologically...I don't know what that man could come up with.

You're right Russia does not have the manpower, material or the skills to take on NATO. However it's what's going on in Putin's head that decided whether the war will end peaceful or....

Markus

Putin can order what he wants, and the Russian MOD will comply, but his army will face destruction that would mean defeat so the end of Putin, so let's hope he does that exactly. Where the frell is Steiner when you need him. There is talk they use forced labor for the war production again good means more security resources needed that can not be used in Russia or Ukraine, the end is coming that is for sure.

[ET2SN]

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

Well worth a viewing imho.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Even I can't understand what NATO/USA have to do in Ukraine-It's not exactly a country worth starting WWIII for.
Markus

Two things, Iron ore and grain. You should be able to extrapolate from that.

[Jimbuna]

Total combat losses of Russian Federation since beginning of war - about 207,030 people (+430 per day), 3,801 tanks, 3,435 artillery systems, 7,467 armored vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS

As of the morning of 29 May 2023, the losses of the Russian occupiers are approximately 207,030 people.

As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02.22 to 29.05.23 are approximately:

personnel - about 20,7030 (+430) people were liquidated,

tanks - 3801 (+4) units,

armored combat vehicles - 7467 (+11) units,

artillery systems - 3435 (+10) units,

MLRS - 575 (+1) units,

air defense systems - 331 (+2) units,

aircraft - 313 (+0) units,

helicopters - 298 (+0) units,

UAVs of the operational and tactical level - 3054 (+61),

cruise missiles - 1056 (+0),

ships/boats - 18 (+0) units,

motor vehicles and tankers - 6207 (+15) units,

special equipment - 453 (+2). Source: https://censor.net/en/n3421309

[Skybird]

Russia is trying to use American concerns about "Wall Street Journal" correspondent Evan Gershkovich, detained in Moscow on espionage charges, to influence the newspaper's coverage. This is shown by a report of the state news agency Ria

If the New York newspaper continues an "activity not related to journalism" by publishing "disinformation" about Russia, "it will mean that the editorial board is not interested in Gershkovich's fate at all," Ria quoted an unnamed "informed source in Moscow" as saying Friday evening.

In the past few days, the newspaper had carried "a number of articles with false allegations concerning Russia," the "interlocutor" had also said. Examples were missing.

The choice of words is reminiscent of the language used by Russian power representatives in cases where there is a deviation from representations of the Moscow Defense Ministry on the Ukrainian war. Thus, the unofficial but hardly disguised threat to harm Gershkovich is aimed at the entire "Wall Street Journal" coverage of the war.


[FAZ]

[Jimbuna]

[Jimbuna]

Here we have a classic example of the kettle calling the pan 'black'

Russia has accused Ukraine of launching a series of early morning drone attacks on Moscow, the first time the city has been targeted by multiple drones since Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

The Russian defence ministry said on Telegram that Kyiv had staged a "terrorist attack" using at least eight drones.

Officials said that minor damage had been caused to several buildings.

The capital city's mayor says no-one was seriously injured.

Sergei Sobyanin also said that emergency services were "at the scene of incidents".

The defence ministry has claimed that all the drones were intercepted.

"Three of them were suppressed by electronic warfare, lost control and deviated from their intended targets. Another five drones were shot down by the Pantsir-S surface-to-air missile system in the Moscow region," the ministry said.

Earlier, media reports had said as many as 30 drones were involved. Authorities have also said several of them fell on buildings after being downed.

There has been no comment from Kyiv, but on Monday, the head of Ukraine's military intelligence, Gen Kyrylo Budanov, warned of a swift response to a series of Russian missile strikes on Kyiv.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-65751632

[Skybird]

I am wondering. Is there a drone or cruise missile type of weapon that during the final part of its trip switches off its electronics and turns into a dumb glide bomb, something like that, that therefore is immune to electronic warfare downing or influencing it? I would assume such a weapon would need to climb to high altitude immediately before turning "dumb" so to be able to trade altitude for further range in its flight path. Which would make it vulnerable to classic aim-and-shoot air defences, however.


Anything like that available? Or was it tried and given up?

[Jimbuna]

^ I'd have thought that such a weapon, if it existed would already be in use
by Russia.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

^ I'd have thought that such a weapon, if it existed would already be in use
by Russia.

But the need for it would be greater for Ukraine. Russian missiles , AFAIK, get shot down my Gepards and missiles, not by electronic warfare. The missiles striking Russia seem to often get caught by electrionic warfare. Russia - at least before the war - is known to be strong in jamming of all sorts, also in overhearing enemy battlefield comms (at least in the past).

[mapuc]

How Iran could get nukes, which they are so eager to get.

They have just to join the Rus-Bel constellation.

As the leader of Belarus said yesterday...there's nukes to those who join us.

To be honest I doubt Putin would be interested in starting something in the Middle east..of course it would mean that USA has to move material and manpower to that area and so has NATO.

Markus

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