2016 US Presidential election thread

[yubba]

[QUOTE=Skybird;2445444]^ In the end, reality never has bowed to political or religious ideology, but continued with what it does best: that is to stay what it is. The same needs or reality Obama was confronted with, will confront Trump. And if you compare it to how it was eight years ago: the imo hysteric, overboarding enthusiasm for Obama that culminated in giving him a peace Nobel prize for achievements he had not even collected, then you can see Trump today as just the same pendulums swinging as far and excessively - but this time to th eopposite direction.

Reality will cut back his wings, he cannot evade it. Even a Donald Trump has to boil his tea with ordinary water. And he mostly likely will be a never-ending source of ongoing bad behaviour and cocky phrases provoking the politically correct plebs.

Promises to become expensive for us espeically outside the US - but entertaining. I will hold a pot of popcorn ready from now on whenever I switch on TV and watch the news.

Either he gets reelected in four years - or Bernie Sanders will claim socialist revenge. This guy would have been even worse and ruinous than Trump or Clinton.[/QUOT]

Well maybe with Trump,, Congress and the media will do their job in keeping Trump inline,,the job that they refused to do with Obama,, that was why Trump was elected he by We the People,, and he wasn't some @#$%~! canidate shoved down our throats by the establishment..

[Catfish]

Yep, like we see everywhere recently, it is all about furious citizens demanding their right (51 percent), and voting against the establishment. Which sometimes shows the ugly truth, that chauvinism and racism are still a force to be reckoned with.

But what i do not understand is that just of all minorities in certain states obviously have also voted for Trump (?) And women.

[Onkel Neal]

Well, well, who won? Trump? Really? At least we've seen the end of the Clintons, that's a positive.

Now, it gets interesting. Lets see if Mr. Trump will deliver his promises. I didn’t vote for him, but he’s my president and I hope he does a good job.

[Takeda Shingen]

With the Republican Party retaining control of Congress there will be no check against Trump's edicts. And while his supporters will no doubt be very excited by the impending campaigns of terror against Muslims, women, minorities, gays and immigrants, I wonder how they will react to the coming budget deficits. Our God King has indicated that he will quadruple military spending, dramatically increase infrastructure budgets, construct a 40-foot-high barrier to extend across the nearly 2000-mile southern border and staff every inch of it 24/7/365, and generally increase spending across in all sectors while cutting taxes across the board. Even a child can tell you that this means deficit spending.

Will the satisfaction that these people feel from seeing those that they hate brutalized offset their hatred of government spending? Is the hatred of others greater than their hatred of deficits? Time will tell.

[Gray Lensman]

Originally Posted by Two Bears

With the Republican Party retaining control of Congress there will be no check against Trump's edicts. And while his supporters will no doubt be very excited by the impending campaigns of terror against Muslims, women, minorities, gays and immigrants, I wonder how they will react to the coming budget deficits. Our God King has indicated that he will quadruple military spending, dramatically increase infrastructure budgets, construct a 40-foot-high barrier to extend across the nearly 2000-mile southern border and staff every inch of it 24/7/365, and generally increase spending across in all sectors while cutting taxes across the board. Even a child can tell you that this means deficit spending.

Will the satisfaction that these people feel from seeing those that they hate brutalized offset their hatred of government spending? Is the hatred of others greater than their hatred of deficits? Time will tell.

After 8 years of Obama, you are NOW worried about presidential edicts and their effects? What hypocrisy!!!!

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Gray Lensman

After 8 years of Obama, you are NOW worried about presidential edicts and their effects? What hypocrisy!!!!

Rejoice. Your God King will brutalize those who you hate.

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

At least we've seen the end of the Clintons, that's a positive.

you are right about that my friend

[August]

Originally Posted by Two Bears

With the Republican Party retaining control of Congress there will be no check against Trump's edicts.
And while his supporters will no doubt be very excited by the impending campaigns of terror against Muslims, women, minorities, gays and immigrants, I wonder how they will react to the coming budget deficits. Our God King has indicated that he will quadruple military spending, dramatically increase infrastructure budgets, construct a 40-foot-high barrier to extend across the nearly 2000-mile southern border and staff every inch of it 24/7/365, and generally increase spending across in all sectors while cutting taxes across the board. Even a child can tell you that this means deficit spending.

Will the satisfaction that these people feel from seeing those that they hate brutalized offset their hatred of government spending? Is the hatred of others greater than their hatred of deficits? Time will tell.

This is why the Democrats lost. They create the worst deficit in American history and then they try to lecture Americans on what someone else might do. Maybe they should learn to face the fact that they put up a candidate that was so flawed she could be beaten by Donald Trump.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by August

This is why the Democrats lost. They create the worst deficit in American history and then they try to lecture Americans on what someone else might do. Maybe they should learn to face the fact that they put up a candidate that was so flawed she could be beaten by Donald Trump.

Number recognition not a strong suit? Allow me to help.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Thanks, Ralph Nader!!! You're the gift that keeps on giving!!!

So, how far has the stock market gone down today, so far?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Thanks, Ralph Nader!!! You're the gift that keeps on giving!!!

So, how far has the stock market gone down today, so far?

The markets went down substantially when BO was elected for his first term and second term. None story. Buy buy buy.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by August

This is why the Democrats lost. They create the worst deficit in American history and then they try to lecture Americans on what someone else might do. Maybe they should learn to face the fact that they put up a candidate that was so flawed she could be beaten by Donald Trump.

No. This election was not about numbers, and the deficit was not the worst:
The cost of Bush's policies was $5.1 trillion, and the cost of Obama's policies was a mere $983 billion. (https://www.quora.com/Who-created-mo...-Bush-or-Obama)

"You also have to take into account that the year of 2009, in which the debt escalated rapidly, was not the blame of Obama. A new president is forced to adopt the old president's fiscal policies for one year, before they can implement their own more successfully. Therefore, excluding the stimulus package, one added year of debt can be mostly attributed to Bush and his policies."

Just claiming something does not make it true.
The democrats lost because of furious citizens, falling for populism and a general hate against "the establishment".

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Two Bears

Number recognition not a strong suit? Allow me to help.

Donkeyfeed? Certainly not skewed.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Donkeyfeed? Certainly not skewed.

Then have the CBO.



Or is that too skewed as well? It doesn't blame Barack Obama for all of the world's evils so it must be wrong. Typical groupthink.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Well, well, who won? Trump? Really? At least we've seen the end of the Clintons, that's a positive.

Now, it gets interesting. Lets see if Mr. Trump will deliver his promises. I didn’t vote for him, but he’s my president and I hope he does a good job.

Yes, good riddance to corruption. It is/was shamefully overlooked and tolerated just to get Hillary into the White House. The hypocrisy is astonishing. I have stated before in this very forum Hillary thought she would cruise through the roll of Sec of State adding another feather to her hat. The laying and cover up under her watch was her first undoing. The second undoing was corruption and a false persona within the DNC as demonstrated with the dropping of Wikileak emails. Hillary is all about Hillary. Third, careless handling of secret info. Refer back to sleeping at the helm as Sec of State. Fourth, the now found corruption inside the Clinton Foundation. The DNC could not have nominated a worse candidate. I'm ALL for a woman president. Hillary is not it. And to give Michael Moore his due.....it is a big FU.

I voted Trump. Is the guy brash, rude and rough around the edged sometimes? Yes sir. Was running for president something he needed to do for money, fame and fortune? Absolutely not. Trump has all of that and then some. So why run? Perhaps he really is fed up with the direction of the country and what is going on in DC. It is evident the voting public feel much the same. What do I have to lose voting Trump? A damn fine question Trump asked many.

I view Trumps presidency like William Shatner in his roll of Capt Kirk. Shatner is not a great actor by any means. However, he was surround by excellent actors that made it work for a controversial program named Star Trek. The key elements of great actors made the entire program work. Trump may not be the best president however he will surround himself with the brightest and best people that will make the system work. He does not owe anyone anything. No special interests. No good old boy club. I would expect Pence to his very very very good voice of reason. Pence has demonstrated that already.


Joe Scarbough host of Morning Joe said, "The angry white man voted in Trump." So what the hell is your point Joe?