UK Politics Thread part II

[Jimbuna]

Labour and the Conservatives were branded “two cheeks of the same arse” by an SNP MP in the House of Commons who took aim at the Opposition’s stance on welfare reform.

Chris Law’s (Dundee West) cheeky remark prompted an intervention from Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle, with a plea to consider the “pride of this Parliament”.

Mr Law subsequently amended his remark to say “bottom” instead.

[MGR1]

Not hard to disagree with that one.

Even if it did come from a Nat.

Mike.

[MGR1]

As a P.S.

I mentioned the incident to my dad, to which he replied (in broad Aberdonian accent) "Dis 'at mack the SNP fit comes oot th' middle, 'en?"

Mike.

[Jimbuna]

[Moonlight]

We've seen how the Tories have mismanaged the country for 13 years, so, let's take a look at how Labour might do it, we'll use Birmingham City Council as the template for the whole of the UK, it's supposedly Europe's biggest council so it sounds like a good fit.

The Mirror

Birmingham City Council 'effectively bankrupt' with desperate plea for Government help

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...ively-30865597

That is a look at Birmingham council through the lefts perspective, now let's look at it from the other side of the fence.

The Mail

How Labour drove Birmingham to bankruptcy: GUY ADAMS investigates how a toxic combination of ineptitude and extreme political dysfunction saw Britain's biggest council go bust - all under the watch of a leader handpicked by Keir Starmer

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...GUY-ADAMS.html

This isn't just Birmingham, there are other councils in the same boat and it's not just the Labour councils either, there are Tory and LibDems in there as well, and from what I've heard there are a lot more teetering on the edge.

On that basis above, neither the Tory Party or the Labour one should ever have the keys to 10 Downing Street, what about the LibDems then?, they had a share of the keys in the 2010 General Election and they royally screwed that up, no thank you.

That's it then, it's a choice between the screwups and the even bigger screwups, and I don't know which is which.

[em2nought]

Seems to be a bit of a peoples' revolt going on in London regarding government ULEZ cameras spying on ICE vehicles. Hope the spirit spreads across the pond, charging stations would probably be a fairly easy target.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/m...e7b9b22be03794

[Moonlight]

Now the armed police are revolting, this wouldn't be happening if that judge knew anything about life on Britain's streets, no, these pillocks sit in their white marble towers and pass judgement on matters that are beyond their comprehension.
My advice to anyone who wants to criticize the armed police is to go and do a fortnights course of their training, me thinks being plunged into life and death situations will give them a different perspective on life and a much greater appreciation of the pressure that these armed officers are under.
Remember, mistakes will always happen no matter what training they've had, and if those officers get it seriously wrong, well, we could be witness to a bloodbath that no politician wants to take the blame for.

Chris Kaba: MoD offers military support after armed Met officers turn in weapons
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66906201

War within the ranks of Scotland Yard: 'SAS on standby' over fears Met Police armed policing revolt will spread across country as officers demand a 'period to reflect' - but are 'warned they can be still forced to carry out duties'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ba-charge.html

[Jimbuna]

Bit of a mess atm but things are gradually returning back to normal.

[Moonlight]

No one has ever done a huge poll on this migration problem, it's time they did and, I don't mean plastic migrants either, I mean British White People, 150,000 to 200,000 from each county should give those MP's a clear picture of what people want, and what they don't want.

The Mirror

'Poisonous' Suella Braverman's nasty new low as she attempts to distract from own failures

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...rying-31036226

BBC News

UN refugee agency rejects Suella Braverman asylum comments

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66930930

The Daily Mail

Tories line up behind Suella Braverman over warning about 'existential threat' from uncontrolled immigration - as Home Secretary 'pitches to be next Tory leader'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ry-leader.html

Migration again Suella, she's making waves again but nothing gets done about it, talk, talk, talk, that's all she does, of course it's not all her fault, it's the bleeding heart numb nuts of the Tory backbenches that are the guilty ones. If the Tories want to stay in power then getting a grip on this Migration invasion is vital for the Tory government, it's too late for this next General Election but not for the one's after it.

The lefty Labour Party pillocks can whine and whinge all day long as usual but those crocodile tears are wearing very thin, whoever stamps their foot down with a firm hand on this problem will win every General Election for the next 30 years or so. Bring back the UK Bill of Rights that Fishy Rishi scrapped and get it implemented immediately.

If only those MP's of long ago had a glimpse of life in 21st century Britain they would never have voted for this unregulated madness, most of them would have voted with Enoch Powell and banned migration for ever. He warned us all then and they didn't listen, and Suella is giving them another warning now and they're still not listening, you bleeding idiots.

EDIT

DAVID HAIGH: I'm an asylum lawyer, and I believe 80% of claimants who approach me are simply not genuine
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...t-genuine.html

[Jimbuna]

Lots of promises being made by Sir Ed Davey the Liberal Democrat leader....pretty easy when you know you won't win the election and have to stand by them.

[Jimbuna]

Macron humiliated as France isolated over post-Brexit vehicle rules

France is once again finding itself as the isolated black sheep in the EU, opposing the UK in the ongoing negotiations on electric vehicle trade between Brexit Britain and the Brussels bloc.

Reminiscent of Paris's inflexible position during the Brexit negotiations, France is finding itself cornered in its opposition to the UK's stance on electric vehicles.

Emmanuel Macron's EU allies, particularly Germany, are showing support and flexibility towards Britain's proposals.

The issue on the table is the imminent 10 per cent tariff slated for implementation in January, targeting vehicles that fail to meet stringent regulations concerning the sourcing of components for electric vehicle batteries.

This impending tariff has raised alarm bells in the UK, as it threatens to harm automakers on both sides of the English Channel.

The UK has advocated for an extension of the deadline to allow the industry more time to adapt. This plea was officially conveyed during a meeting with EU counterparts on Wednesday.

Notably, the UK has found an unexpected ally in Germany, whose automotive industry is already grappling with challenges. In addition to the post-Brexit tariffs, Brussels has announced plans to initiate an investigation into Chinese subsidies for electric vehicles.

This investigation carries the potential to adversely affect major European carmakers, such as Volkswagen, BMW, and Mercedes, given their extensive exposure to the expansive Chinese market.
During a recent European meeting, several countries with substantial automotive industries, including Sweden, the Czech Republic, Belgium, and Italy, threw their weight behind Germany's position.

Three unnamed EU diplomats told Politico that from the meeting, France emerged as the lone EU member state vehemently opposing the UK's stance.

The division over electric vehicle trade regulations also runs deep within the European Commission itself. While the EU's executive body is ostensibly committed to upholding the terms of the post-Brexit agreement, some members, notably Internal Market Commissioner Thierry Breton and others, assert that the UK's concessions could jeopardise the European battery industry and the EU's efforts to reduce its dependence on China.

One EU diplomat branded any postponement as a potential "political shock" from the Commission, deeming it an unlikely scenario, particularly as the Commission explores the possibility of imposing additional tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles.

Nonetheless, the Commission remains divided, with EU trade chief Valdis Dombrovskis aligning with London's call for greater flexibility, at least in the short term.

The responsibility for resolving this deadlock now rests with Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/...a5fe2f43&ei=14

[Jimbuna]

EU fines Britain £28 million as bloc accused of 'punishing' UK for Brexit

Judges in the European Union have fined the UK £28 million (€32 million) as a result of its failure to impose EU rules on diesel.

There are fears in Whitehall the ruling could set a precedent over future post-Brexit dealings with the EU.

The penalty, imposed by the European Court of Justice (ECJ), is almost double what was initially recommended by advisers.

It is thought to be a warning to Northern Ireland in order to clamp down on potential rule breaking in the region.

The fine was relative to the UK's economy as a whole, rather than that of Northern Ireland, explaining that this "would not be sufficiently dissuasive and therefore would not make it possible to achieve the aim of effectively preventing the repetition of similar infringements of EU law in the future".

The ECJ also said the fine was increased because the UK took so long to comply with the 2018 judgment.

Northern Ireland is governed by a number of EU rules for goods in order to prevent a hard border with the Republic of Ireland.

The rules are overseen by the European Commission and enforced by the European Court of Justice.

The fine came as a result of the UK's failure to implement an EU ban on the use of red diesel - which is subject to a five per cent tax rate - in private pleasure craft, such as canal boats or yachts.

The rule is meant to force boat owners to use white diesel, taxed at the full rate of fuel duty and VAT at 20 per cent.
Speaking about the ruling, prominent Brexiteer David Jones said: "The attitude is what it always was.

"The EU has always wanted to punish the UK for daring to exercise its treaty right to leave.

"Northern Ireland is the EU’s continuing leverage over the whole of the UK.

"It is exercising that leverage and will continue to do so until we take steps to break it."

Speaking to the Telegraph, he added: "This simply underlines that the Windsor Framework is a huge ball and chain that prevents the entire UK from diverging from EU regulation.

"It needs to be renegotiated."

The UK Government said: "This is ultimately a historic case which began at a time when the UK was a member of the EU. We have now left.

"Since then, we have negotiated the world’s largest zero tariffs and zero quotas deal with the EU, and are now focused on using our Brexit freedoms to the benefit of the British public."
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/othe...e74b18ee&ei=26

[Moonlight]

^Will the UK government ever grow a spine and tell these pillocks where to stick their bleeding EU rules?.

Rutherglen and Hamilton West By-Election.

The Background to this By-Election.
Ms Ferrier became SNP MP for Rutherglen and Hamilton West in 2015 when she beat the Labour incumbent in the seat, she narrowly lost the seat to Labour at the 2017 general election, but then took it back two years later in 2019.
Earlier this year, the Commons' Committee on Standards recommended Ms Ferrier be suspended from Parliament for 30 days for damaging the reputation of the House.
The length of the suspension led to a recall petition, which was signed by nearly 15 per cent of local voters.
Ms Ferrier broke Covid rules by travelling from England to Scotland while she had been tested positive for Covid, yep, the "Covid Con" put paid to her, the powers that be had to do something about it or it might have affected the "Brown Envelope Scam" that all politicians love so much. As I, and millions of other people now know, it was no worse than the common "Flu Bug" but those in charge saw the chance to make some money out of it, and we all know that politicians love to get their filthy "Snouts in the Trough", that's the background to this story if you didn't already know about it.

BBC News
Rutherglen: Labour eye Scottish breakthrough in key by-election
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66947950

Next week's Rutherglen and Hamilton West by-election in Scotland is a must-win contest for the SNP, if they lose it, the Labour Party will almost certainly gain that seat. We'll hear Starmer and the rest of his vegetables crowing over it for months on end, as if they aren't insufferable enough as it is. Will this win or lose seat reflect the whole of the country, probably not, but for Labour, if they win it, it could be the first massive dent in the SNP and Yousaf's impregnable armour, and who would have said that a year ago?.

Where are the LibDems and the Tory Party in this by-election?, me thinks they're as far back as "John the Baptist", whoever is victorious in this contest will breathe a huge sigh of relief, for the vanquished however, there will be the possibility of a knives out campaign against the leadership of all the losing parties, who the hell would want to be a politician eh?, only the greedy bastards who only see the perks of the job, and there's plenty of those about I can tell you.

[Moonlight]

BBC News
Rishi Sunak refuses to say if he backs Suella Braverman multiculturalism remarks
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66948132

Daily Mail
Rishi Sunak fails to back Suella Braverman's claim that 'multiculturalism' has 'failed' as PM praises Britain as a 'fantastic multicultural democracy'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...democracy.html

Fishy Rishi wuld win the next General Election by a landslide if he backed the Home Secretary, but as most people know, he's a "Bleeding Coward". Fishy is a misguided idiot who knows nothing about the subject and only spouts the nonsense his advisers tell him to say. If Suella put a bid in to be Prime Minister and followed through on what she's been saying she would do then she would thrash the little wimp currant easily in a contest.
As it stands now the Tories will let these migrants in until this country is bursting at the seams with these scroungers, how long will it take for this to happen?, 20 years or so? or until they've bred the UK into a white minority population, I'll be gone by then and so will you, and truth be told, I wouldn't want to see it happen.
That's what's in store for the rest of Europe too, so you can start kissing goodbye to Christmas celebrations as they'll be banned under new Woke rules.

God help the poor bastards, they don't know what they've let their governments do to them.

Crikey, I've never voted for a Tory before but I would be tempted to give Suella a go, I meant "Vote For Her" at the next General Election you dirty minded gits, sheesh.

[Jimbuna]

When Sunak took over No 10 he boasted the Tories 'Were the party of low taxes' but is that actually the case?

Tax levels in the UK are at their highest since records began 70 years ago - and are unlikely to come down, a leading think tank says.

The Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) forecasts taxes will amount to about 37% of national income by the next general election, due in 2024.

The IFS report - on the eve of the Conservative conference - has reignited calls for tax cuts from Tory MPs.

The government says taming price rises is its priority.

Next year, the government will collect upwards of £100bn more in tax compared to pre-2019 levels, the IFS says.

This is not a direct consequence of the coronavirus pandemic, when government spending surged to keep the economy afloat, the think tank argues.

Instead, it reflects decisions to increase government spending, the UK's ageing population and pressures on the health service.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66945729