Weird problem with Vista 64bit and some games - Page 2

Arclight · 05-19-09, 04:42 PM

Not sure about that either. All I know is that it's possible to choose DX9 or 10 when starting Crysis. Something like right-click icon> "run in DX9", or perhaps under properties. I have Arma running on Win7 RC, with DX9 installed as well. Now that I think about it, Arma doesn't support DX10 as far as I know. I'd give installing DX9 a shot; it won't mess up DX10, so it's really quick and painless to test.

NeonSamurai · 05-19-09, 05:32 PM

Already did try it and no change, but problem is I have no way of knowing if its actually using dx9 that was installed or not (since it can use dx 10 in dx9 emulation mode).

Arclight · 05-19-09, 07:48 PM

Don't know about DX10 emulating DX9. AFAIK Vista needs to have DX9/DX9L installed to play non DX10 games. But that point is moot I guess, as it did not fix your problem.

Running out of options, and ideas for that matter.

NeonSamurai · 05-19-09, 09:07 PM

That is actuality incorrect, almost all the games I've run on Vista are dx 9 only. Dx 10 has direct3d 9, 9L and 10 built in, and d3d 9 is set up to act like as if it was xp.

But ya I'm also running out of ideas. My plans now are to do a complete wipe of the display drivers and reinstall them, if that fails I will set up monitoring software and see how the cpu, memory and gpu behave on xp vs vista when playing ArmA and see if there is an issue there which may lead me to further steps, if that fails I will try a clean factory install setup, failing that I'll borrow a copy of vista from a friend to see if it's a Dell vista install issue. I may try a few other things in between those steps.

Arclight · 05-20-09, 12:31 PM

I'm glad you have the knowledge to solve it yourself, most people would have just dropped it off at some repair shop. Not that there's anything wrong with that, just feels like a waste of money.

Anyway, best of luck.

Wolfehunter · 05-20-09, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

That is actuality incorrect, almost all the games I've run on Vista are dx 9 only. Dx 10 has direct3d 9, 9L and 10 built in, and d3d 9 is set up to act like as if it was xp.

But ya I'm also running out of ideas. My plans now are to do a complete wipe of the display drivers and reinstall them, if that fails I will set up monitoring software and see how the cpu, memory and gpu behave on xp vs vista when playing ArmA and see if there is an issue there which may lead me to further steps, if that fails I will try a clean factory install setup, failing that I'll borrow a copy of vista from a friend to see if it's a Dell vista install issue. I may try a few other things in between those steps.

Why not try this and use windows 7?

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-ca/e...?ITPID=mscomsl

NeonSamurai · 05-21-09, 08:52 AM

Hassle mainly, this is a work and gaming laptop, and I don't got a lot of time. Also not sure if vista drivers are compatible or not as there are no windows 7 drivers for this system.

Arclight · 05-21-09, 01:37 PM

Vista drivers work fine. Driver model remains unchanged AFAIK. I use Vista drivers for everything: the Win7 ones are absolute and utter crap IMO, I give them a wiiide berth.

Heck, I installed an older test sytem with XP drivers, still worked fine, though a bit more hassle with compat. stuff.

05-19-09, 04:42 PM	#16
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Not sure about that either. All I know is that it's possible to choose DX9 or 10 when starting Crysis. Something like right-click icon> "run in DX9", or perhaps under properties. I have Arma running on Win7 RC, with DX9 installed as well. Now that I think about it, Arma doesn't support DX10 as far as I know. I'd give installing DX9 a shot; it won't mess up DX10, so it's really quick and painless to test. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

05-19-09, 05:32 PM	#17
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Already did try it and no change, but problem is I have no way of knowing if its actually using dx9 that was installed or not (since it can use dx 10 in dx9 emulation mode). __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

05-19-09, 07:48 PM	#18
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Don't know about DX10 emulating DX9. AFAIK Vista needs to have DX9/DX9L installed to play non DX10 games. But that point is moot I guess, as it did not fix your problem. Running out of options, and ideas for that matter. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

05-19-09, 09:07 PM	#19
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	That is actuality incorrect, almost all the games I've run on Vista are dx 9 only. Dx 10 has direct3d 9, 9L and 10 built in, and d3d 9 is set up to act like as if it was xp. But ya I'm also running out of ideas. My plans now are to do a complete wipe of the display drivers and reinstall them, if that fails I will set up monitoring software and see how the cpu, memory and gpu behave on xp vs vista when playing ArmA and see if there is an issue there which may lead me to further steps, if that fails I will try a clean factory install setup, failing that I'll borrow a copy of vista from a friend to see if it's a Dell vista install issue. I may try a few other things in between those steps. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

05-20-09, 12:31 PM	#20
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	I'm glad you have the knowledge to solve it yourself, most people would have just dropped it off at some repair shop. Not that there's anything wrong with that, just feels like a waste of money. Anyway, best of luck. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

05-21-09, 08:52 AM	#22
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Hassle mainly, this is a work and gaming laptop, and I don't got a lot of time. Also not sure if vista drivers are compatible or not as there are no windows 7 drivers for this system. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

05-21-09, 01:37 PM	#23
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Vista drivers work fine. Driver model remains unchanged AFAIK. I use Vista drivers for everything: the Win7 ones are absolute and utter crap IMO, I give them a wiiide berth. Heck, I installed an older test sytem with XP drivers, still worked fine, though a bit more hassle with compat. stuff. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.