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Old 02-06-21, 08:37 AM   #1
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Default Stadimeter TDC dials problem

Hi there! First of all, thank you in advance for your help.
I am having this bug:
1. Operating System, System spec?
Windows 8 x64 (6.2, 9200)
2. Version of the game ? (DVD, Uplay download, Steam, other ?)
Uplay
3. Confirm that your game is updated to official v1.2.0 version and that the vanilla game works without problems.
When I open the game, at the top left corner it says "The Wolves of Steel v2.2.20" I hope that's the version...

4. If you use any non-TWoS custom mods, remove them, reinstall your game/TWoS completely according to install instruction, start new campaign and make sure that the issue still persist!
I don't have any other mods apart from WoS.

5. Confirm that the Generic Patcher is correctly activated and the snapshot is successfully restored (Install instructions, step 2).
I installed everything correctly, so I guess it's correctly activated. Anyways, I don't know how to check that...

6. Provide a screenshot of your main Silent Hunter 5 installation folder and it's content!
https://ibb.co/DKyn4KC https://ibb.co/GdwYZKP https://ibb.co/zrbrFxv https://ibb.co/P1wZWQ8
7. JSGME screenshot!
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8. Make sure to provide as much details as possible when describing situation where problem/bug/CTD can be observed. What should we do in order to reproduce this issue?
So, I've seen another guy with the same problem as me in this very same thread, but the solution given to him doesn't seem to work with me.

My issue is that when on the TDC, I have all of my data already set up. Now imagine that I want to make sure I hit my target by doing a last moment distance check, or maybe I just want to change to a different target on a convoy: I need to adjust my distance as It's not going to be a 90AoB shot.

So, when I click on the stadimeter so I can select the new distance, all of my dials get messed up (speed, AoB, bearing), so It's impossible for me to make a last moment adjustement or to make several shots on a convoy as all of my data gets deleted and I have to input everything again.

A solution was given: try using the stadimeter while manual TDC is OFF. So I tried it, when that button is red, but it happens the same way as when it's on (gray button).
You can see everything I'm saying on the video I link below.


9. Upload several screenshots and gamesaves on which problem can be observed.

I've uploaded a one minute video on YouTube so you can clearly see the issue.
I just randomly found a DD, I locked it, and made a random firing solution, with random data. You can see that when I select what would be the new distance, all the dials get messed up.




Thank you SO MUCH for your help, I'm sure you will be able to help me!!!!
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Old 02-06-21, 02:16 PM   #2
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I've uploaded a one minute video on YouTube so you can clearly see the issue.
I just randomly found a DD, I locked it, and made a random firing solution, with random data. You can see that when I select what would be the new distance, all the dials get messed up.




Thank you SO MUCH for your help, I'm sure you will be able to help me!!!!
Hi PiedrA1650,
TDC data aren't really resetting like that in correctly installed game/mod. I don't think you have performed step 2 from install instructions correctly... Update your mod to the latest version as well.

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Old 02-06-21, 05:47 PM   #3
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Small bug noted while playing the single mission about the test of German Jet engines ( Playable sub: Type VIIC/41 ). The flag displayed on the bow of the submarine instead of waving in the opposite direction in respect to the U-boat course, it waves in the same direction ( So in brief the flag is waving the wrong way )
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Old 02-06-21, 06:18 PM   #4
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Small bug noted while playing the single mission about the test of German Jet engines ( Playable sub: Type VIIC/41 ). The flag displayed on the bow of the submarine instead of waving in the opposite direction in respect to the U-boat course, it waves in the same direction ( So in brief the flag is waving the wrong way )
And if you turn the boat to the opposite direction?
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Old 02-07-21, 08:13 AM   #5
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And if you turn the boat to the opposite direction?
The flag seems to be affected only by the global wind direction set in the mission parameters and it doesn't take into account the U-boat direction/U-boat speed/U-boat air drag.
For example: You are heading South and the wind is blowing toward South too?
Even if you go South at flank speed your flag will always wave in a South direction ( even changing your heading to North ) while, instead, in a RL situation and considering an avarage wind force applied, the flag should wave North due to the U-boat movement/speed ( If you are heading south obviously ). As said you can test this very easily. Go to historical missions and load the one about the test of the German jet aircraft. Once spawned order ahead flak and after a bit order back emergency ( while in the meanwhile looking at the flag behaviour ). I'm sure you will notice it immediately
In brief: the flag waves correctly in respect to the wind direction but wrong in respect to the current U-boat direction/heading.
Said so and keeping the example made above if you are sailing South at flank speed ( and the wind is blowing South ) your flag instead of pointing in the opposite U-boat direction will always wave toward your conning tower. ( Even keeping a very open mindset and a "what if " scenario in mind, this could be eventually justified, only in case of gales/storms/very strong wind speeds but not surely in situations where the wind speed is inferior to the U-boat speed )


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Old 02-07-21, 08:33 AM   #6
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In brief: the flag waves correctly in respect to the wind direction but wrong in respect to the current U-boat direction/heading.
Said so and keeping the example made above if you are sailing South at flank speed ( and the wind is blowing South ) your flag instead of pointing in the opposite U-boat direction will always wave toward your conning tower.

Yes, I did just that and as soon as I start moving the flag will start to wave in the correct direction. Note the uboat speed and course on the screenshots, the wind is blowing from south, 6m/s in this case...
Don't you have such behavior in your game?






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Old 02-07-21, 08:40 AM   #7
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Added image above in my previous post . You must test this only in single missions, in the campaign ones it works as per normal. Note also that I have tested/noticed this only in the mission about the German jet fighter I have not yet checked if it happens only in this particular mission or only with this particular U-boat type.
Take in mind also that in single missions very often you get strange behaviours that instead in campaign missions do not show/doesn't seems to happen.

( No additional mods activated just TWoS " vanilla " )

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Old 02-08-21, 05:35 AM   #8
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Hi PiedrA1650,
TDC data aren't really resetting like that in correctly installed game/mod. I don't think you have performed step 2 from install instructions correctly... Update your mod to the latest version as well.
I'll never get to know how you guessed it right in the first try. Absolutely correct, I ran the Generic Patcher and just like you said, it looks like, when installing, I clicked "Yes" in every but one of the messages. A new window appeared showing something where you could read "stadimeter". The moment I saw it I knew everything was my fault.

My game works properly right now. Thank you SO MUCH!!!!
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Old 02-08-21, 06:59 AM   #9
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I'll never get to know how you guessed it right in the first try. Absolutely correct, I ran the Generic Patcher and just like you said, it looks like, when installing, I clicked "Yes" in every but one of the messages. A new window appeared showing something where you could read "stadimeter". The moment I saw it I knew everything was my fault.

My game works properly right now. Thank you SO MUCH!!!!
I'm really glad that I could help. Happy hunting!
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