Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Rockstar]

Couple of days old but still good info

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

The first thing that comes out of the mouth of an American Politician.We will not put boots on the ground.Then they do every time, never fails. Oh and who follows British troops. We certainly are living in exciting times.Nato and the EU has got it's ass squeezed. Putin and Xi Jinping are the winners of this chess game. Silly Rabbits.

Not Putin, but Jinping certainly is playing chess, first with the virus and China has the US wearing itself out economically, but Putin isn't gonna gain anything out of this, even if he gets Ukraine, it'll be decades before Russia can take advantage of any of its natural resources.

[Reece]

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Putin isn't gonna gain anything out of this, even if he gets Ukraine, it'll be decades before Russia can take advantage of any of its natural resources.

Putin gets territory he can trade for time versus the inevitable onslaught of Islam from Western Europe.


Our mainstream media is going to push for a fight with Putin because to them, next to Trump, Putin is the next most evil "white" man. All democrat leaders excluded from being "evil white men" of course only conservatives or repentant communists need apply. Plus the media need to provide cover for Biden's ineptitude which a nice little(?) war will do just fine.

[LUKNER]

That's why Putin is angry!
Now you can really see what democracy and freedom of speech are worth!

[Catfish]

^ Wth is behind this link

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ Wth is behind this link

Taken down until explained via PM

[Skybird]

Bubble-Olaf has announced in the Bundestag that the Bundeswehr will get 100 billion as a special budget in the "near future" for the most urgent and immediate repairs and rearmaments. Also the German defence budget suddenly should be raised above 2%.

Geht doch.



Whether the military administration even can handle to administer this money, is something else. The infficiency and tendency of the Bundeswehr to bog administrative things down and to a standstill, is legenadary. Money also doe sntoi solve the problem of way too few recruits and specialists.



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Kharkiv apparently is on the brink of falling, Russian troops are claimed to stand in the city centre. Maybe the Ukrainians can retake it?!

On this day, one can summarize at least this: the war is going badly for the Russians, and I am surprised by how much they have bogged own. the Russians perform worse than expected, and the Ukrainians perform much better than expected. Reports on day one that all airfields and air defences are down, obviously have been more rumour and Russian wishful thinking than fact, the Ukrainian air force is still flying, probably taking high losses, but the Russian air force also takes hurting losses, seems to want to engage in CAS without having air superiority - and that costs them.



Lesson to the West: the Ukrianian air force and gorudn forces have older platforms, the Russian more modern ones. Technology only gets you so and so far - and not further.


The war is absolutely not going like Putin can want it. This does not mean Ukraine can win, or that Russia will not win in the long run, they still have immense reserves and I fear these will in the end make the difference. The hoped uprise of the Russian ethnic groups in the Ukraine also seems to not take place, apparently they too confront the invaders.

Intimidating the Europeans to keep them away, also seems to work worse and worse, even wiht Putins strongest ally in the West, Germany. More and more hurting sanctions get decided, more and more weapons get delivered to the Ukraine, and I hope the supply does not stop.

Putin is in a corner he had put himself into. He cannot afford not to win this, so he will unleash all brutality needed to win this. If it happens to turn out that way, and while the chances are like that it is not certain at all, the Ukraine fights back very well, he will have no joy with his "triumph". His prestige is obliterated even with his closest political allies, the Russian people do not support what is happening, obviously, and all relations with the West he had set up to decieve them, have been shattered. For many many years Russia will have no access to technology anymore that it needs to maintain its oil and gas and airflight industry, and it will be unable to adapt to the declining demand of fossil fuels by boosting its production economy and modernise it.

No matter what happens to the Ukraine: Putin blew it. Stupid hateful sick old man. But fear the old men near death: they have nothing to lose.

The Ukraine still has a realistic chance. Not overhwelmingly, but the chance is there to get through this and not being subjugated to Russia'S command. We should deliver them all ammo fuel and weapons they ask for, the fighting they seem to be absolutely capable to do themselves, they need no intervention. So lets give them what they need!

And, who knows, maybe some brave sane mind in the Russian top ranks dares to do the unimaginable and shoots a bullet through Hitler's Putin's head. Probably will not happen, but ruling it out I don't.

Welcome in the cold war 2.0. Its real now, and its hot.

[Jimbuna]

'Putin is furious' Ex-Army Commander's staggering claims about how weak Russia really is.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...out&li=AAnZ9Ug

I certainly hope this article is accurate and true.

[Jimbuna]

Russian troops have entered Ukraine's second-largest city Kharkiv, say local officials.

Street fighting has been reported, with Ukraine posting pictures of burning Russian vehicles.

Ukraine claims 4,300 Russians have died in the invasion so far - this has not been verified.

Ukraine's defence minister hails his country's resistance, saying "the world doubted" them.

And the Ukrainian president has rejected negotiations with Russia in Belarus - saying the country has been used for attacks.

The Russian central bank calls for calm, amid fears of a mass withdrawal of cash.

Vladimir Putin hails his country's special forces for their work in Ukraine.

Almost 400,000 people have fled Ukraine since the invasion started, the UN says.

And Germany pledges a massive hike in defence spending, to meet the Nato 2% target.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I certainly hope this article is accurate and true.

So do I!!

Also, this. Yesterday, or the night before, there was a news snippet on TV, shpwing Ukrainian civilianms shouting at an obvious Russian POV. The man looked extremely young, almsot a boy. He cowered on the ground, holding his head with helmet between his head, and did not move, just stared in what I interpreted as disbelief, complete disbelief. The Ukrianians did not beat him, did not kick him, just threw angry words at him, but he was not pohysically absued.

I felt compassion with that young man. Is this the "enemy"? That young man has just realised the world around him collapsing. He probably is a conscript, who was told he is going on a manouver, then that he is going to be part of the liberating of a brother people that will chant and enjoy being liberated and will welcome him with open arms because big father Putin is protecting the Rodina and the Ukraine from the evil West and all the blablabla from the propaganda books. And then he finds himself in this hell around him. Who knows what he has seen before. How many of his comrades he saw lying dead on the ground before he got captured. I would not assume that all Russian soldiers there want into battle enthisoiastically and singing songs. I absolutely doubt that.



But of course they must nevertheless be fought, unforgivingly, and with all determination. No doubt on that.


The upper ranks and decision makers -these are the ones that should be lined up against the wall. But I think many Russian ordinary soldiers are being turned into victims by Putin, like the Ukrainians are being turned into victims by Putin as well. Just that the latter bites back with all they have.

Alles Scheiße.

[Jimbuna]

Ukraine petitions international court to intervene immediately

Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky says his country has brought a complaint against Russia at the International Court of Justice and is requesting its panel of judges to order a halt to Moscow's invasion.

The ICJ, which is based in The Hague, is the UN's top court and decides whether or not a state has breached international law.

The court cannot bring criminal charges against individual heads of state.

Ah well, good luck with that

[Skybird]

Where is Borrell when we need him?

[Jimbuna]

[mapuc]

Russia may lose the war you say..

Putin is/could be sick in his mind-One of you wrote

This makes me wonder if he will use mass destruction weapons as a last resort.

Edit
I also follow the war on twitter. Here are some copied text

"All Russian units in Kharkiv eliminated.
Ukrainian military and home guard units have full control.
12:26 PM · Feb 27, 2022 from Ukraine·Twitter for Mac"

"Irpin, the city northwest of Kyiv, has been taken back ����10:55 AM · Feb 27, 2022 from Ukraine·Twitter for Mac"

"Ukraine’s Air Force has just received a large shipment of air-to-air missiles for our jet fighters 11:04 AM · Feb 27, 2022 from Ukraine·Twitter for Mac"

"The French Foreign Legion has decided that it will allow its Ukrainian soldiers to return to Ukraine with their full combat gear."

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