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06-06-23, 02:23 PM | #11221 |
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One could interprete the events as Russia's confession that it realises it cannot further conquer more of Ukraine and cannot keep what it already took. They now switch to the thinking of "If we cannot take it, then we destroy it so that they cannot own it any longer, too."
This was always a war of annihilating Ukraine and Ukrainians. Putin said so from before the war on, when he rejected any right of Ukraine and Ukrainians to even exist. -------------- The Nord Stream 2 thing turns slowly against Ukraine, it seems. If in the end they find Ukraine having given the order for this strike on the pipelines, then this is the one event that will make me reversing 180° and wanting to immediately stop all German support of any kind, immediately. It would be a total no-go to strike infrastructure of another supposed friendly nation whom one demands to help onself, and while raising this demand bombing its pipelines. Unforgivable. In that case I would say: let Ukraine see for itself how to get through this. No more money, no more repairs, no more ammo, no more tanks, nothing. All that is already in transit to Ukraine - reverse and RTB. I wouldn't forgive such betrayal. Its not even about the pipeline in the first. Its about the betrayal itself. For the moment, again this warning: it could be a false flag operation by the Russians, designed to blame Ukraine. This must be ruled out.
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06-06-23, 02:30 PM | #11222 |
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Who owns the Norstream pipelines? Russia or Germany?
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06-06-23, 02:45 PM | #11223 | |
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Specsavers would be a good place to go for these pilots
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06-06-23, 02:51 PM | #11224 |
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The five shareholders of the Nord Stream consortium are Gazprom international projects North 1 LLC (Gazprom Group company), Wintershall Dea AG, PEG Infrastruktur AG (E. ON), N.V. Nederlandse Gasunie and ENGIE. Gazprom international projects North 1 LLC holds a 51 percent stake in the pipeline project.
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06-06-23, 02:57 PM | #11225 | |
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So majority owned by the Russians then.
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06-06-23, 02:59 PM | #11226 | |
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06-06-23, 03:28 PM | #11227 | |
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The city of Hannover had always thought of England as a befriended people, probably derived from the time of the personal union when there was a german-english monarch ruling until 1837. The citizens would never have thought to be bombed by just of all England, even during WW2. They had to change their minds. Seems England did not have so much interest in history while being confronted with some Hitler Could it be there are parallels with the russian war. end of OT
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06-06-23, 04:07 PM | #11228 |
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It has been solved who was behind the bombing/explosion of this Dam.
So you don't have to ponder on who or why and our Intelligens can take a rest to the end of the year. I give you, told by some FB friends-The real cause and who's behind it. It was Ukraine. And then a long list of why they did it. (Just wanted to share it with you that ordinary people already knows who's behind it and why.) Markus
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06-06-23, 04:31 PM | #11229 |
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^ maybe, or maybe not.
Without evidence there is no proof. "Facebook" or META, my .. behind.
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06-06-23, 04:35 PM | #11230 | |
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Screw the Russians and screw anyone who takes their side in this war.
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06-06-23, 04:51 PM | #11231 |
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I just listened to a podcast with Colonel Reisner from Austria again. He said that in the past 48 hours (~ 48 hours ago) the Ukrainians had tried an amphibic assault south of Cherson and wanted ot land forces south of the city, he think its possible that the Russians blew up the dam in an attempt to spoil that plan and push the ukrainian landing attempt back.
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06-06-23, 05:18 PM | #11232 | |
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Every evidence points at Russia. Markus
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06-07-23, 05:40 AM | #11233 |
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06-07-23, 05:55 AM | #11234 |
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If true, the contents of this video are really quite worrying.
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06-07-23, 06:17 AM | #11235 |
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In his todays video he mentioned that the leader of the Wagner group was talking about using nukes-Not against Ukraine or NATO, but against other Russians in Russia. This made me think. Not doubt that we are heading towards some kind of a civil war in Russia and where nukes are being used !!? Markus
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