[REL] Trigger Maru Overhauled

[eers75]

Originally Posted by Armistead

I wonder if the numbers stop there. I've returned home with major renown, but a ship 90% damage and got a newer boat before.

Im not sure myself, it could be just a total coincidence as im not sure the numbers actually represent hull damage or what exactly they are for. However I did just run a 3rd test where I put the values back at 40, went out looking for trouble on purpose and got damaged to around 70 hull damage with no boats sunk and was asked to resign or given a porpoise.

This all could just be my mind playing tricks on me as im not above that lol but for me in my real career campaign ive had one patrol after adjusting the numbers where I limped home with significant damage with a so so patrol tonage and wasnt asked to retire etc and before I believe i would have been asked to retire. Ill keep playing with it to see.

[Jan Kyster]

I have a short-cut to the above UPC.cfg file on my desktop. Before entering home base I double-click it and change MinimumDaysInBaseUS to a reflect my damage or (more usual!) to reflect number of days at sea.
After a patrol of +90 days I like to give my crew more time to recover and I like to pretend the boat needs a more thorough overhaul.
If new tower/major equipment upgrades are expected I sometimes increase days in port to as much as 3 months...
According to patrol reports of course.

Same method can be used to test AcceptedDamage: save well before port, open UPC.cfg, make change, load save and port.
Can be repeated as often as wanted and this way you can test what impact the change will have with exact same damage percentage...

[fitzcarraldo]

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

I have a short-cut to the above UPC.cfg file on my desktop. Before entering home base I double-click it and change MinimumDaysInBaseUS to a reflect my damage or (more usual!) to reflect number of days at sea.
After a patrol of +90 days I like to give my crew more time to recover and I like to pretend the boat needs a more thorough overhaul.
If new tower/major equipment upgrades are expected I sometimes increase days in port to as much as 3 months...
According to patrol reports of course.

Same method can be used to test AcceptedDamage: save well before port, open UPC.cfg, make change, load save and port.
Can be repeated as often as wanted and this way you can test what impact the change will have with exact same damage percentage...

I don´t need to start a new campaign for change the UPC! It´s a great new...

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo

[Rancor260]

Okay i don't know what's up with this mod but this is the first mod i tried and it looked pretty cool at first until i met first merchant ship and i fired torpedo at it... So what happened when it hit the target? big hole? fires? No... I got the torpedo impact message and saw the explosion and then i went to see what happened to the ship in external view and i saw no damage at all... no hole, no fires, nothing... the ship was perfectly fine... So i don't know does this mod remove the damage models completely (yes i didnt read the whole list about what this mod changes) or is this just a bug i encountered?

[BillBam]

One fish will not always do enough damage to show, also the hole may be below the waterline. When in exterior view go to the ship and dive below the water and look at the hull below the water, you might find the hole there.

If one doesn't give the desired effect setup for another shot and finish here off, not every ship in RL sank with one fish either.

Also if you light fire damage try this mod;

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=180920

[Rancor260]

Originally Posted by BillBam

One fish will not always do enough damage to show, also the hole may be below the waterline. When in exterior view go to the ship and dive below the water and look at the hull below the water, you might find the hole there.

If one doesn't give the desired effect setup for another shot and finish here off, not every ship in RL sank with one fish either.

Also if you light fire damage try this mod;

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=180920

I checked below the waterline and both sides but no hole or any sign of torpedo hit. I know that one torpedo isn't usually enough to sink larger ships but i'm pretty sure that when torpedo hits a ship it should always make some damage to the ship (in reality)... and there was not even a scratch on the ship i shot. I guess it was some rare bug i encountered if nobody else is experiencing the same. Thanks for the link to that fire damage mod though, looks interesting.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Rancor260

I checked below the waterline and both sides but no hole or any sign of torpedo hit. I know that one torpedo isn't usually enough to sink larger ships but i'm pretty sure that when torpedo hits a ship it should always make some damage to the ship (in reality)... and there was not even a scratch on the ship i shot. I guess it was some rare bug i encountered if nobody else is experiencing the same. Thanks for the link to that fire damage mod though, looks interesting.

You won't always get visible damage. Just the way the game is.

[Rancor260]

Originally Posted by razark

You won't always get visible damage. Just the way the game is.

I guess so. Is there any mod out there that let's you always see visible damage when you shoot a ship with a torpedo? I know you won't see much holes when shooting with a deck gun but on vanilla game i have never seen that a first torpedo wouldn't do visible damage (i haven't played that much so i could be wrong though). I know that when you shoot multiple torpedoes to the same ship it doesnt always show the damage but it would be enough for me if it would show the damage the first torpedo did.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Rancor260

Is there any mod out there that let's you always see visible damage when you shoot a ship with a torpedo?

I'm not aware of such a mod.

Originally Posted by Rancor260

... on vanilla game i have never seen that a first torpedo wouldn't do visible damage (i haven't played that much so i could be wrong though).

I've seen it quite often. I've even had ships sink without showing any damage.

[Stealhead]

I agree with razark the visible damage not always showing holes form torpedo hits is just part of the game must not be very modifiable either as someone would have made such a mod by now.

[Armistead]

Only certain parts rerender a damaged look, has no bearing on real damage done, just some eye candy.

[Anthony W.]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Only certain parts rerender a damaged look, has no bearing on real damage done, just some eye candy.

Kind of like a throwback to SH3 where there were no holes at all

[Armistead]

My guess is each damage zone on the ship renders so many holes, one of two at best, cept maybe for the keel.

[nohouan]

I don't think so. It probably have something to do with the differences of curves, fore and aft : too complex to render, or maybe just disabled because of unrealistic damage rendering (if I had to take a guess). Anyway, some ships make better holes than others.

[alphlvr]

goddamn muthor faakien blimmin brilliant, as ever, what the game should have been in 1st place, you have my gratitude for all the workj you put in