Mission started - but people get kicked (crash)

Krieg-Schwein · 09-13-05, 09:06 AM

I have been working on a new mission alternate history NY Harbor and had it working fine but went back and complete redid it cause I didn't like some of the thing and the way the stupid DD's just run ashore with out following the path I provided ..added mnes....lots of mines in a dense area, possibly my undoing? any way..when people try to connect they all get bumped off when it finally starts..I hate to redo the the whole thing I tried removing the mines..no luck..any help appreciate.

also I read int one of the tutorials that every thing needs a waypoint Even stationary land object?? is this even necessary even for a docked ship??

Danke

FAdmiral · 09-13-05, 01:20 PM

Unfortunately yes, all platforms need a waypoint !! It's kind of
silly but its the way the game handles the info. Even mines need
a waypoint. Just create a straight line waypoint and give the
non-moving units a 0 speed. The editor is kinda touchy about
how the player sets it up so sometimes it's a trial & error sort
of thing.....

JIM

Krieg-Schwein · 09-13-05, 04:20 PM

Mines I can understand because other wise there would not be and field and also radius area but a stationary gun on land ??
any way I have made a waypoint an all objects since and even tried removing mines (" I had a very dense field protecting some ships from torpedos...torps can go over subnets" ) and a few aother things , so what will make it so ather players are kicked off when they connect to the game??thanks

FAdmiral · 09-14-05, 03:49 PM

Are you trying to use your mission as multiplayer?
Or are the players getting kicked using just single mission by
themselves?

JIM

Krieg-Schwein · 09-14-05, 06:43 PM

Its a MP Mission, I'm getting in OK but not the other players,
I don;t have problems with other MP games, and I have checked out everything making sure it is set as MP number of players Way-points on all objects Etc,

I'm thinking that possibly it was the mines but cause I have a dense field protecting some Docked ships so that torpedo's have about a 50 50 chance of either hitting a mine or hitting a ship, I would use a subnet but torps go Right over them.,
I tried to remove them but it still didn't work?
I wish there was a better way to protect them

if I lower the mines as you suggested in an other post will the torpedo's still hit them ?

I have since restarted the mission but I'm still having problem

Danke
for the help!!

Krieg-Schwein · 09-14-05, 07:41 PM

1 more thing I figures out is the the DD will take the straightest path to me coming in to the bay which happens to be LAND as because the bay is curved so I have to take a curve path to get in but the stupid DD's don;t see the land between me and them?
I thought that the AI was supposed to be smart enough to see things like DOCK, LAND, SUBNETS, ETC, the only thing I have seen them ovoid is other ships, I have tried setting them all to Elite but they are still Stupid?

Danke

FAdmiral · 09-15-05, 02:42 PM

Main problem with MP is that every player has different mods
installed. Some will not effect MP but some will. I expect that
all players will have to be modded exactly the same to get the
MP to work properly. Can't help you more then that because
I have never created a MP game to test this out....

JIM

Col7777 · 09-15-05, 04:38 PM

@ FAdmiral,

Jim, just a thought, if you can add way-points to mines, can a single mine be made to look like it has broke loose it's mooring and drifting in the sea?
I know this did happen from time to time, it might be interesting if a ship struck a loose mine or worst still if the player sub hit it.

The Avon Lady · 10-10-05, 12:21 AM

What do you mean by "kick"? Do you mean they crash to desktop (CTD)?

If so, I found out that this happens when your mission makes use of a boat or object class that was introduced by a mod, which the player does not have installed.

Could that be your problem? :hmm:

Spike · 10-10-05, 12:29 AM

No..I mean when other players join after it finishes loading,the other players are kicked from the game.I don't have any other ships(mods) in,just sound and grapics like airplanes.So I know its nothing to do w/the settings of the map or mods.None of the grapics change important files.Anything I put in,I test to make sure it doesn't mess the game up.The only thing I can think of ,it is some kind of a bug w/the editor.I have read,that other people have had the same problem.But was wondering if anyone knows how to fix this, instead of re-doing the mission again.It seems like it happens after you re-open a mission and make changes.This is not the first time it has happened,look at the mission,it is not a very complicated one,it should work,fine.It might be the order of the way I am doing the changes,that cause it,not sure,see if you can get it to work,it should work.It validates fine.But not able to host it without it kicking the players out,frustrating.

The Avon Lady · 10-10-05, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krieg-Schwein

and the spelling of the mission will not make any difference to anything, you could put Chinese in it and it wouldn't matter

Yes. We knew that.

Spike · 10-10-05, 07:42 PM

Can you give me the order in the way you build a mission,I did it from scatch and it did it again,about ready to give up.Help!

Krieg-Schwein · 10-14-05, 09:32 AM

This may be a silly question but are you using the NO CD fix in order to use your computer without Starforce also saving the wear and tear for your DVD?

These are handy files to use cause you can use your game normally in all respects with out Starforce except the missions may have a problem if they were made using these files, if so just use the normal files and load the mission up and re-save it!

I really don't thing that it matters how or what order you do it in.
have you tried to use the mission validater

try starting out with 2 subs and 1 or 2 targets and work your way up
PM me and I'll try to get with you and help to logon to your mission
tonight! and maybe we can figure out why people can't get in!

TigerOmega · 10-14-05, 06:18 PM

Sure looks like one of my missions. Is it Tigers? If so I played it many times with no one getting kicked. Mind if I ask where you got it or did you make it yourself?

TigerOmega · 10-14-05, 06:27 PM

I had a look at it and it looks to be mine but with added ships. I am pretty sure anyway. If you want the one I made PM me. It works because I played online quite a few times.

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09-13-05, 09:06 AM	#1
Krieg-Schwein Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 129 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I have been working on a new mission alternate history NY Harbor and had it working fine but went back and complete redid it cause I didn't like some of the thing and the way the stupid DD's just run ashore with out following the path I provided ..added mnes....lots of mines in a dense area, possibly my undoing? any way..when people try to connect they all get bumped off when it finally starts..I hate to redo the the whole thing I tried removing the mines..no luck..any help appreciate. also I read int one of the tutorials that every thing needs a waypoint Even stationary land object?? is this even necessary even for a docked ship?? Danke __________________ This is my U-Boat. There are many like it, But I like this one, its mine. HI REZ MOON MOD Last edited by BL!TZKR!EG; 01-13-16 at 11:08 AM.

09-13-05, 01:20 PM	#2
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Unfortunately yes, all platforms need a waypoint !! It's kind of silly but its the way the game handles the info. Even mines need a waypoint. Just create a straight line waypoint and give the non-moving units a 0 speed. The editor is kinda touchy about how the player sets it up so sometimes it's a trial & error sort of thing..... JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

09-13-05, 04:20 PM	#3
Krieg-Schwein Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 129 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Mines I can understand because other wise there would not be and field and also radius area but a stationary gun on land ?? any way I have made a waypoint an all objects since and even tried removing mines (" I had a very dense field protecting some ships from torpedos...torps can go over subnets" ) and a few aother things , so what will make it so ather players are kicked off when they connect to the game??thanks __________________ This is my U-Boat. There are many like it, But I like this one, its mine. HI REZ MOON MOD

09-14-05, 03:49 PM	#4
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Are you trying to use your mission as multiplayer? Or are the players getting kicked using just single mission by themselves? JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

09-14-05, 06:43 PM	#5
Krieg-Schwein Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 129 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Its a MP Mission, I'm getting in OK but not the other players, I don;t have problems with other MP games, and I have checked out everything making sure it is set as MP number of players Way-points on all objects Etc, I'm thinking that possibly it was the mines but cause I have a dense field protecting some Docked ships so that torpedo's have about a 50 50 chance of either hitting a mine or hitting a ship, I would use a subnet but torps go Right over them., I tried to remove them but it still didn't work? I wish there was a better way to protect them if I lower the mines as you suggested in an other post will the torpedo's still hit them ? I have since restarted the mission but I'm still having problem Danke for the help!! __________________ This is my U-Boat. There are many like it, But I like this one, its mine. HI REZ MOON MOD

09-14-05, 07:41 PM	#6
Krieg-Schwein Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 129 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	1 more thing I figures out is the the DD will take the straightest path to me coming in to the bay which happens to be LAND as because the bay is curved so I have to take a curve path to get in but the stupid DD's don;t see the land between me and them? I thought that the AI was supposed to be smart enough to see things like DOCK, LAND, SUBNETS, ETC, the only thing I have seen them ovoid is other ships, I have tried setting them all to Elite but they are still Stupid? Danke __________________ This is my U-Boat. There are many like it, But I like this one, its mine. HI REZ MOON MOD

09-15-05, 02:42 PM	#7
FAdmiral Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Atlanta, GA, USA Posts: 1,079 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Main problem with MP is that every player has different mods installed. Some will not effect MP but some will. I expect that all players will have to be modded exactly the same to get the MP to work properly. Can't help you more then that because I have never created a MP game to test this out.... JIM __________________ If you\'re not taking losses, you\'re not doing enough. RAdm. Kelly Turner, USN ********************************** www.fairtax.org

09-15-05, 04:38 PM	#8
Col7777 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 944 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	@ FAdmiral, Jim, just a thought, if you can add way-points to mines, can a single mine be made to look like it has broke loose it's mooring and drifting in the sea? I know this did happen from time to time, it might be interesting if a ship struck a loose mine or worst still if the player sub hit it. __________________ Silent and Violent

10-10-05, 12:21 AM	#9
The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	What do you mean by "kick"? Do you mean they crash to desktop (CTD)? If so, I found out that this happens when your mission makes use of a boat or object class that was introduced by a mod, which the player does not have installed. Could that be your problem? :hmm: __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

10-10-05, 12:29 AM	#10
Spike Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: North Atlantic Posts: 134 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	No..I mean when other players join after it finishes loading,the other players are kicked from the game.I don't have any other ships(mods) in,just sound and grapics like airplanes.So I know its nothing to do w/the settings of the map or mods.None of the grapics change important files.Anything I put in,I test to make sure it doesn't mess the game up.The only thing I can think of ,it is some kind of a bug w/the editor.I have read,that other people have had the same problem.But was wondering if anyone knows how to fix this, instead of re-doing the mission again.It seems like it happens after you re-open a mission and make changes.This is not the first time it has happened,look at the mission,it is not a very complicated one,it should work,fine.It might be the order of the way I am doing the changes,that cause it,not sure,see if you can get it to work,it should work.It validates fine.But not able to host it without it kicking the players out,frustrating.

10-10-05, 07:42 PM	#12
Spike Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: North Atlantic Posts: 134 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Can you give me the order in the way you build a mission,I did it from scatch and it did it again,about ready to give up.Help!

10-14-05, 09:32 AM	#13
Krieg-Schwein Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 129 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This may be a silly question but are you using the NO CD fix in order to use your computer without Starforce also saving the wear and tear for your DVD? These are handy files to use cause you can use your game normally in all respects with out Starforce except the missions may have a problem if they were made using these files, if so just use the normal files and load the mission up and re-save it! I really don't thing that it matters how or what order you do it in. have you tried to use the mission validater try starting out with 2 subs and 1 or 2 targets and work your way up PM me and I'll try to get with you and help to logon to your mission tonight! and maybe we can figure out why people can't get in! __________________ This is my U-Boat. There are many like it, But I like this one, its mine. HI REZ MOON MOD

10-14-05, 06:18 PM	#14
TigerOmega Watch Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 22 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Sure looks like one of my missions. Is it Tigers? If so I played it many times with no one getting kicked. Mind if I ask where you got it or did you make it yourself?

10-14-05, 06:27 PM	#15
TigerOmega Watch Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 22 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I had a look at it and it looks to be mine but with added ships. I am pretty sure anyway. If you want the one I made PM me. It works because I played online quite a few times.