Three New Navy Ships - Page 2

Torplexed · 01-11-09, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I thought the JIMMY CARTER was made out of BILLY BEER cans.

Shows up too easily on enemy sonar. Was also rejected as a fuel source. Makes the sub loud, unwieldy and attracts too much attention. Kinda like Billy did.

nikimcbee · 01-11-09, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Any sign of the U.S.S. Monica Lewinski?

Yes, This top secret sub is one of the new SSGNs, due to its portly size. It has the fastest dive time in fleet. "She goes down the fastest!"

AntEater · 01-11-09, 10:29 AM

Ok, but to an outsider the political affiliation of the US Navy is quite obvious:
1 active carrier named after democratic president, another one for a democratic senator (2 others allready decommissioned)
1 SSN named for democratic president (which makes kind of sense as he was a nuke officer).

5 carriers named for republican presidents, another future carrier named for one of the shortest serving presidents of all time.
Three of those republican carriers were named after living people by the time the name was chosen, as was John C. Stennis (dem.)

But I've got to wonder what exactly did Ford do to get a carrier named after him?
I can understand Reagan (he won the cold war) and Bush (Gulf war I) but why Ford?
Why not use the traditional carrier names not taken over by LPDs (Ranger II), or why no Franklin D. Roosevelt II or a USS Ulysses S. Grant or Thomas Jefferson or so?

Generally I think naming ships after living people is a bad habit.

Torplexed · 01-11-09, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AntEater

But I've got to wonder what exactly did Ford do to get a carrier named after him?

Probably because he served in the Navy and on a carrier.

Gerald Ford's service career...

14 JUL 1913 Born in Omaha, Nebraska
13 APR 1942 Ensign, U.S. Naval Reserve
20 APR 1942 Reported for active duty
2 JUN 1942 Lieutenant (junior grade)
1 MAR 1943 Lieutenant
3 OCT 1945 Lieutenant Commander
23 FEB 1946 Released from active duty under honorable conditions
28 JUN 1963 Honorably discharged from U.S. Naval Reserve

SHIPS AND STATIONS

U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD (Instruction) Apr. 1942 - May 1942

U.S. Navy Pre-Flight School, Chapel Hill, NC May 1942 - May 1943
(Instructor)

New York Shipbuilding Corporation, Camden, NJ May 1943 - Jun. 1943
(CFO USS Monterey (CVL-26))

USS Monterey (CVL-26) (Asst. Navigator) Jun. 1943 - Dec. 1944

Navy Pre-Flight School, St. Mary's College, Dec. 1944 - Apr. 1945
CA (Athletic Dept.)

Staff, Naval Reserve Training Command, NAS, Apr. 1945 - Jan. 1946
Glenview, IL (Staff, Physical and Military
Training Officer)

U.S. Naval Officer, Separation Center, Great Jan. 1946 - Feb. 1946
Lakes, IL (Separation Processing)

Enigma · 01-12-09, 03:33 AM

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I can understand Reagan (he won the cold war)

:rotfl:

Captain Vlad · 01-13-09, 02:00 PM

I hate that we're naming the carriers after presidents and admirals and politicans to begin with.

A Very Super Market · 01-13-09, 07:58 PM

Why so? I can understand not liking the politicians but countless navies use admirals and generals. *Cough* Bismarck

Torplexed · 01-13-09, 09:39 PM

I miss the old USN naming convention. At least it was mostly consistent.

* Battleships, by law, were named for federal states, except for USS Kearsarge (BB-5)
* Battlecruisers under the 1916 program were to receive names of famous ships, or land battles. When cancelled under the Washington Naval Treaty, two were converted to aircraft carriers, and this became the standard for them.
* Cruisers, both light and heavy, were named for cities in the United States and Territories, with the exception of USS Canberra.
* Destroyers, and similar escorts, were named for Navy, Marine Corps and Coast Guard heroes.
* Submarines were either given a class letter and number, as in S class submarine, or the names of fish, marine mammals and crustaceans.
* Oilers were named for rivers and colliers named for mythical figures.
* Frigates (enlarged destroyers reclassified as cruisers) were named after naval heroes.
* The first forty-one nuclear ballistic missile submarines (called "boomers") were named after historical statesmen considered "Great Americans."
* Minesweepers were named for birds.

The current system is just a messy hodgepodge.

01-11-09, 10:29 AM	#18
AntEater Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 936 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ok, but to an outsider the political affiliation of the US Navy is quite obvious: 1 active carrier named after democratic president, another one for a democratic senator (2 others allready decommissioned) 1 SSN named for democratic president (which makes kind of sense as he was a nuke officer). 5 carriers named for republican presidents, another future carrier named for one of the shortest serving presidents of all time. Three of those republican carriers were named after living people by the time the name was chosen, as was John C. Stennis (dem.) But I've got to wonder what exactly did Ford do to get a carrier named after him? I can understand Reagan (he won the cold war) and Bush (Gulf war I) but why Ford? Why not use the traditional carrier names not taken over by LPDs (Ranger II), or why no Franklin D. Roosevelt II or a USS Ulysses S. Grant or Thomas Jefferson or so? Generally I think naming ships after living people is a bad habit. __________________

01-13-09, 02:00 PM	#21
Captain Vlad Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pollard, Oklahoma Posts: 679 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I hate that we're naming the carriers after presidents and admirals and politicans to begin with. __________________ "Stop sounding battlestations just to hear the alarm."

01-13-09, 07:58 PM	#22
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why so? I can understand not liking the politicians but countless navies use admirals and generals. Cough Bismarck __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

01-13-09, 09:39 PM	#23
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I miss the old USN naming convention. At least it was mostly consistent. * Battleships, by law, were named for federal states, except for USS Kearsarge (BB-5) * Battlecruisers under the 1916 program were to receive names of famous ships, or land battles. When cancelled under the Washington Naval Treaty, two were converted to aircraft carriers, and this became the standard for them. * Cruisers, both light and heavy, were named for cities in the United States and Territories, with the exception of USS Canberra. * Destroyers, and similar escorts, were named for Navy, Marine Corps and Coast Guard heroes. * Submarines were either given a class letter and number, as in S class submarine, or the names of fish, marine mammals and crustaceans. * Oilers were named for rivers and colliers named for mythical figures. * Frigates (enlarged destroyers reclassified as cruisers) were named after naval heroes. * The first forty-one nuclear ballistic missile submarines (called "boomers") were named after historical statesmen considered "Great Americans." * Minesweepers were named for birds. The current system is just a messy hodgepodge.