The "Hum"

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

I've taken comfort with my "hum" in my own way.
It's come to be my special thing when I get home from weeks or months away.
There are times when I get home and it's not there and I almost feel as if I'm not home.

Most times when I hear it? I repeat in my mind "It's time to visit the plains".
For some reason I have very vivid dreams after falling asleep VERY quickly then.

I've never talked about this before to anyone.

Most hummers simply do not know that there are others like themselves. I read that some people are so desperate that the first time they learn others hear it too they burst in tears, in relief, some have a long journey behgind them, from doctor to doctor, from specilaist to specialist, and most if not all not believing them. Hummers still get often seen as people with psychic problems, tinnitus or some other health issues. My father hears it since years - I did not believe him, too. Until one month ago. And my mother - does not know what to think of it, she cannot hear it. But she now has two hummers in her family, not just one.

Myself, I hope that it goes away again. For some people, it is a thing of days only. For others, a thing of months, and then there are those for whom it lasts for years. Maybe I belong to the lucky ones.

You are glad that you can manage it sufficiently.

[Fubar2Niner]

Originally Posted by Skybird

That is not ironic. Environmental everday noises can drown it to some degree. If you googled and read for the matter you will see that many people hear it louder at night than during the day - at night, when the noise of the outside world is at a low.


If it is "electromagnetic hearing", then indeed the brain is "making the noise", in erratic interpretation of the as erratic electrical stimulation of the nerves or affected brain lobes. But generally speaking, one of the biggest differences between tinnitus and the hum is that tinnitus patients locate the subjective origin of the noise they hear as being as something inside their head or ear (in German, the public calls Tinnitus often "the little man in the ear"), where as the hum is described by the vast majority of people to be originating from a source located outside their body, from the environment. Often it is said it sounds like putting your head under water and then hearing a humming sound from from above the water surface - the sound then is outside yourself, but seems to come from everywhere.

Another description often used is "like the propeller of a very high flying drone". People do not want to say by this they b eloieve ther eis a flying drone overhead, they just mean the sound reminds them of this association, like they also compare to distant Diesels or heavy construction machines vibrating through the ground or through some walls, from long distance away (just that there are no Diesels or machines).

Could you use the Hertz videos by Sony at youtube to limit the range of how the sound is for you? As I said, for me it is exactly 100Hz. And it lasts for hours and hours, the first weeks at night, but since a few days mainly at day.

I do suffer from Tinnitus, however this is not what I would call the hum. My tinnitus is like a whooshing noise sometimes accompanied with a ringing. The hum I hear is definately not within my head, it is neither of the sounds I have described. I live in a comparatively quiet area. No heavy vehicles, machinery or such. I cannot explain this, and do not proffess to even understand it. This has been an ongoing thing as I said for some years. I will look into your youtube examples, not sure if my range will be good tho. Occupational partial deafness I'm afraid.

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

[Eichhörnchen]

Were you a heavy-metal drummer, Fubes?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Fubar2Niner

I do suffer from Tinnitus, however this is not what I would call the hum. My tinnitus is like a whooshing noise sometimes accompanied with a ringing. The hum I hear is definately not within my head, it is neither of the sounds I have described. I live in a comparatively quiet area. No heavy vehicles, machinery or such. I cannot explain this, and do not proffess to even understand it. This has been an ongoing thing as I said for some years. I will look into your youtube examples, not sure if my range will be good tho. Occupational partial deafness I'm afraid.

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

As I said earlier, indeed the hum is not tinnitus, although it can coincide in a person, which seems to be the case with you. Most hummers however have no tinnitus, tinnitus seems to be not more present amongst others than amongst the not-humming population.

What it in the end is, this humming, nobody knows. All we have is a guessing game, sometimes with more and sometimes with less reasonable guesses.

[Julhelm]

I hear the hum intermittently, but more often the lower 25hz rumble. I always assumed it has to do with mutual interference and perhaps local sound convergence. Buildings do bounce and funnel soundwaves to a noticeable degree - I live near an airfield and often you will pick up the sound of an aircraft from a completely different direction than he's coming from. And at some places in town, lawnmowers on the other side of town can be heard as if they were next door.

[Skybird]

Yes, this is also often considered to be a cause, but it is unproven in most cases that were examined, it seems. The interference caused by house walls is noticed by some, while others deny it. Means: some people report they notice a variation in volume depending on how close to a wall they are, or how far upstairs, while others say changing their position in the house or room changes nothing in volume. Higher floors in a house seem to be more prone to "fetch" up the hum.

When I hear it, the volujme does not chnage no matter where in the room or house I am (this is three floors plus roof area and underground basement, five levels all in all) - it also is exactly the same sound volume when I leave the house and even go kilometers away. Only the ammount by which of the hum gets washed out by other environmetal sounds varies. Thats why it is the loudest at night, when everything else is silent. I think it has not changed volume then, only appears to be louder due to other noise not being present.

In general, note that the available material on the hum is limited, and inconsistent. It gets almost no academical interest.

[Reece]

During WW2 many concrete bunkers, tunnels etc were constructed, at the end of the war the Nazi's went underground, that is why no one ever found Hitlers body. The noise is power generators running deep below the surface, when it is time they will emerge and the 4th Reich will begin.

[Jeff-Groves]

Come on Reece! Everyone knows the Nazi's went to the Dark Side of the Moon!
They left Earth just after the Battle during Operation HighJump at the South Pole.
Sheeze.

[Reece]

Oh yeh, I forgot about that!!

[Skybird]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-58396698


Compare to what I wrote four years ago in the very first posting here:

It can be technology-caused, but reports on people hearing a strange humming sound date back centuries already. In Britain it became known since the 50s, in America it was examined in depth in New Mexico in the town of Taos in the be late 80s (thus the phenomeneon often gets called as The Taos Hum), and since some years there even are live recordings of the sound in the air. This is critical, since there are as many explanations for accoustic wave sources as there are theories for electromagnetic wave sources. We know that some people can "hear'" the Aurora Borealis, some people can hear the entrance of meteors into the upper layers of Earth's atmosphere , both phenomenons produce immense quantums of electromagnetic energy that the human body may fetch up like an antenna would do - maybe with the nervous system or parts of the brain, both functioning bioelectrical, or with the skin. Accoustic waves can be received also by the bones of the human body, and the skin.

In the early sixties, a scientist at the Cornell university in New York demonstrated that people who since their birth had no aural nerves, could get accoucstic perceptions by exposing their brain to (harmless) electromagnetic waves. It got described as a cracking, chaotic rumbling sound. While maintainign the exposition, the perception could be interrupted when putting a plaster with I think metallic fibres on their foreheads, so that the exposition of the brain was reduced or completly blocked.

My own problem with the Hum has meanwhile ended once. I lied awake in bed, then raised early, and all of a sudden just within the hum, it was gone from one split second to the next, as if a switch had been flipped.

I know a man in my neighbourhood, who also heard it, mand my father. They too didnot hear it since that time.

However, it had gone on again last autumn, and then suddenly died off again in early spring this year. Same for my father.

I had always the idea that somehow our hightech and electrical environment has something to do with it.

Private attempts to clear this up, all faltered, the authorities refused to assist in any ways, the state governments that were adressed , actively hindred all such attempts where they could. AFAIK, in Germany all private organisations that formed up and tried to track it nation-wide, meanwhile have given up and switched off in frustration. Nobody knows, nobody talks about it, all and everybody ignore it as best as they can.

Scenarios I can imagine many, but necessarily they all are speculative.

[Sean C]

I do sometimes hear a hum, very much like the 100 Hz tone on page 1. However, I live near some train tracks, and I thought it was probably a locomotive idling nearby. The sound is relatively quiet, but it does seem to be louder inside my house than out. I find it annoying ... distracting even, but not unbearable. And I don't think it has caused me any ill health effects. I haven't noticed a correlation with my migraines.

The sound sometimes varies in intensity, and sometimes seems to briefly fade out and then back in. It is always relatively low volume, but being a low frequency it can still be audible with moderate background noise. (Think: semi-distant car stereo with big sub woofers.) As with all low frequency sounds, it seems impossible to determine the direction from which it is coming.

My wife does not seem to notice it at all. She does have hearing loss due to tinnitus, though. She got hearing aids a little while back, but I have not had a chance to see if she hears it while wearing them. I played in a rock band for many years, and I also have tinnitus. But I think it is a mild case, because I am able to "tune it out" if I have any way of distracting myself. IOW, I only really notice it if I pay attention to it. Otherwise, my hearing is excellent.

Seems to me that there are times, perhaps periods of a couple months, when I will hear the sound more frequently. Other times I go so long without hearing it that I almost forget about it. Right now it is the latter. If I start hearing it again, I'll let you know. It would be interesting to me to see if it occurs at the same time in vastly different locations.


EDIT: Apparently I can hear frequencies in a range of about 20 Hz to 14,500 Hz.

[em2nought]

I think the Hun I hear is Panzerlied.

[Skybird]

Its back and in strength this time, since some weeks I hear it very intensely, mostly in the time between midnight and early morning around 5:00. I think strongly now that it has something to do with the general electrical powergrid infrastructure, that it is no accoustic but electromagnetic hearing, means the perception of hearing someting is triggered in the brain due to some influence from outside, namely electromagnetic waves that affect areas of the brain and cause the perception of accoustic sound. Maybe it is linked to chnages in the power level in the gridlines at different timers of the day. I woudl expext the load to be lower between 00:00 and 5:00 than it is over the daylight period and early evening.

Its so intense at night currently that I need white noise genrators to get some sleep. Its very annoying. And it is no tinnitus for sure.

Perplexing is that it is all of a sudden on, and all of a sudden off, and that the times this occurs, are surprisingly stable and very much the same times every night. Definitely no natural randomness in it, it must have an artificial origin. Also, the sound fills the space veerywhere, and is the same whereever I am, hiogh or low, at home or ten kioeometers away. Its everywhere, does not vary in volume , and is totally unspecific regarding "direction". Its omnipresent.

Most people I have asked, do not hear it. My father again does hear it. People seem to be differently sensible to it. He says however that while it is back, for him it is weaker then in past years. But then I am 54, he is 78. It was described by others that there seems to be a raised vulnerability that may be due to age-related physical changes in the body at the age from 50 to 70, if true my father is on his way out of it, and I am on my way in, so to speak.

Very annoying. White noise helps to "flood and flush it". Noice-cancelling headphones have zero effect, do not block it. Another hint that it is no accousting noice.


Compare to this older text from 2006: https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/s..._hum/cause.htm

[Skybird]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60237839

The study found that pulsed electromagnetic energy, particularly in the radiofrequency range, "plausibly explains" the core characteristics, although it says that there remain gaps in the information.

It says that non-standard antennas could create the effects on the human body. Such a source could be concealed and require only moderate power. It could also travel through the air and through walls of buildings.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/02/p...ort/index.html

[Skybird]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...icti-rcna35058

Probably microwaves. Probably Russia.


Why they would attack in this way? The video gives an explanation. Many diplomats and CIA workers in recent years have refused getting stationed in oversea posts due to concerns of getting affected by health issues if getting exposed ot this phenomenon. Russia cannot care enough so to cry about this.



Cyber attacks. Assassinations carried out in in other countries. Meddlign with foreign elecitons. Infiltrating the potlical deicison making processes of foreign governments. Microwaving. Each of these actions in my rule book is a hostile aggressive act, and in principle an act of war of war. Russia wages the third world war against the West since many, many years already. While we slept - and to a big part still sleep.