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Old 06-28-10, 08:05 PM   #1
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I do an Alberich texture; I don´t know if can be usefull for your excellent work so feel free to use, modify, change, etc.
It´s a .jpg, you can changing to .dds with Painnet.
This looks awesome as a base for Alberich!
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Old 06-29-10, 03:10 AM   #2
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This looks awesome as a base for Alberich!
Thanks, Capt!
I don't know the pattern of Alberich instalation, so I follow the British' modern style.

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Old 06-29-10, 03:48 AM   #3
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Well it was installed as pictured in my earlier post of U11:



But the metal bands you see dividing the sheets of Oppanol were only left on until the adhesive cured, so in the end I don't think the seams were really visible at all. Here are two pics of U-1105 "Black Panther" to give you a look at Alberich after installation:





Note the difference in size and shape of the limber holes vs the standard type VIIC.

Once the sheets come off, however, I think they had pretty standard Helgrau paint underneath, so there wouldn't necessarily be a panel of rust where a sheet peeled off, but I don't know, photos of Alberich-equipped boats are more scarce than the boats themselves. One other note: By the time U-480 was built, the adhesive had been improved so the coating may not have peeled at all (U-11 had that problem in '41 and it was supposedly fixed by '43 when U-480 was built).
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Old 06-29-10, 04:59 AM   #4
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I did battered. After weeks at sea, fighting and exposing to the elements, it´s easy take some damage and rust over Alberich.




Another pattern less battered.
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Old 06-29-10, 08:22 AM   #5
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Looking closely at these pics I do see form marks on the boat, both vertical and horizontal marks. Yes the limber holes are different but I can't do anything about that.
Also, if a panel began to peal away, the crew would most likely cut the loose area off attempting to preserve as much of the panel as possible. So missing partial panels, to me, would be more realistic then several entire huge panels being removed. Also note in these pictures that this is regular Alberich coating, not the Improved Alberich Coasting. From the reads I have done, the improved Alberich was much smaller sheets then they used originally.
Also, this is a game and there are some limitations. I can not make the boat look as though it has been eating twinkies every day for the last 2 years or changes the size or placement of the venting holes etc.

The one thing I am interested in that apears in the one photo is the Hinged Snorkle currently in the lowered position.

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Well it was installed as pictured in my earlier post of U11:



But the metal bands you see dividing the sheets of Oppanol were only left on until the adhesive cured, so in the end I don't think the seams were really visible at all. Here are two pics of U-1105 "Black Panther" to give you a look at Alberich after installation:





Note the difference in size and shape of the limber holes vs the standard type VIIC.

Once the sheets come off, however, I think they had pretty standard Helgrau paint underneath, so there wouldn't necessarily be a panel of rust where a sheet peeled off, but I don't know, photos of Alberich-equipped boats are more scarce than the boats themselves. One other note: By the time U-480 was built, the adhesive had been improved so the coating may not have peeled at all (U-11 had that problem in '41 and it was supposedly fixed by '43 when U-480 was built).
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Old 06-29-10, 02:41 PM   #6
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So the holes are something the game cuts out of the texture? If so, wouldnt it be possible to at least put the rectangular gaps in the rubber around the original limber holes and bump map them for some depth? I think that very well might be how the boat was actually done.
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So the holes are something the game cuts out of the texture? If so, wouldnt it be possible to at least put the rectangular gaps in the rubber around the original limber holes and bump map them for some depth? I think that very well might be how the boat was actually done.
I was thinking the same thing. I will try that on a new Alberich skin "not weather" and see what the effects looks like.

Alos, you wouldn't happen to have a good picture of a Tarnmat Coating on something other then a snorkle would you?
I want to add a few sheets of Tarnmatte on the tower of this current skin but all WWII photo's I find are not very good and I can not use sketche as they really dont show what it looked like.
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Old 06-29-10, 04:56 PM   #8
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No promises, but I'll see what I can do.
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