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Old 04-06-23, 07:05 AM   #1
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Default LSH3 2020 Mod - limit contacts?

Is there a way (either by mod or by manually changing a game file) to lower the number of contacts? Seems to me there should be a lot less opportunity to engage ships/convoys and if possible I'd like to reduce the number so that if feels more 'realistic' to me.

Anyone know how many attacks were averaged by U-boats on a patrol? Seems like I'm always returning to base because I'm out of torpedoes and rarely for fuel (and never for food/supplies).

Also, is there a good mod that slows down the sink time of ships (or atleast randomizes this)?

Any/all help is appreciated, thanks in advance!
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Old 04-06-23, 11:31 AM   #2
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Hi SamjoDo fire up the mission editor within your LSH2020 Install open ou the RND Random leyer and delete 50-60% of the single ship entries or reduce the spawning probobility from 70-90% to 20-30% that should do the trick if you are not too confident in doing that task i can do it for you by the weekend if you want me to do it for you reply to this post


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Old 04-06-23, 02:06 PM   #3
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Ok, opened up mission editor and opened up the RND layer - now I'm stuck, what comes after that? Looks like I need to pick a mission to edit. I'd like to make it so when I'm playing a campaign the contacts are reduced - what folder(s) should I be opening up?

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Old 04-06-23, 02:33 PM   #4
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the RND Leyer has lots of entries you can delete single ship entries or lower the respawn time hours from 125hrs to 500hrs so they spawn less frequent
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Old 04-06-23, 03:17 PM   #5
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Ok, found the RND.mis folder but now what? How do I know what files/entries are the single ship entries that I want to delete?

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Old 04-06-23, 04:11 PM   #6
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If the Mission Editor (ME) closes when you open the RND layer, then there is something not compatible in the file with the ME. Several things to check... be certain that you use the ME in the LSH folder -AND- that you are opening the Campaign_RND.mis file in that same game folder, else things will most likely crash like that. For whatever reason, both the SH3 and the SH4 ME apps remember your last-used folder, no matter where you open the ME from. If you do not use the correct ME (so it can read the correct game Roster folder), and the correct Campaign files (so it can "call" the proper modded Roster folder), then things can get wonky real fast...
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Old 04-07-23, 04:32 AM   #7
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Default LSH-2020 Deleting Single Ships from RND Leyer

Below LSH-2020 Campaign File

When you have opened up the RND leyer in the mission editor scroll down past the Convoy entries like SC,HX,HG,SL unitil you get to British Traffic 000 ect those are the single ships



Click on British traffic 000



Open up ship info by left click on British Traffic 0000 then right clicking you can alter its spawn frequency or you can delete the entry
getting the Random Leyer down to 2500-3000kbs about half the original size should do the trick.


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Old 04-07-23, 06:37 AM   #8
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This is GREAT!! Thank you VERY much for your help!!

Final questions:

I am lowering the 'Group Spawn Probability field, correct? Change is from 50 to say 25 for example?

Do I only need to do this to the entities with 'traffic' (British Traffic for example) or do I need to also do it to fields that contain 'sea', 'europe', 'waters' and others? I also see 'Atlantic traffic' too - those as well?

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repeat hours from 17 to 240 so its spawning every 10 days or even longer 480 hours every 20 days and do it for all single entry ships not just british traffic
when you restart your career start in port before 1st patrol


If you make a mistake and mess up your Campaigns folder no worries ive got your back I have zipped up LSH2020 Campaigns folder with 7zip you will need 7zip to unpack the Campaigns folder then delete the old one and replace with this one download link below


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=6321

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Old 04-08-23, 07:16 AM   #10
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Well in modifying my RND.mis folder I messed something up so I deleted LSH3 2020 and installed LSH3 2022 and WOW, it looks very nice but will now probably have a whole new line of questions.

My first stumbling point:

Using SH3 Commander - how do I start without having to go through the 'training'? Is there something I can change/update to skip this and jump directly into a career?
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Hi SamJoDo I didnt bother with Academy training just went out on patrol 1st September 1939 in the Erprobunngstelle Flt ive just got back to port.


PS Check your Pms ive sent you a download link to new Campaigns ziped Folder with RND now 3625kbs a lot less traffic

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Old 04-08-23, 02:49 PM   #12
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Adjusted contact campaign you sent so far is working well..only 2 contacts in 4 days Nov, 1941 in the Med (sank 'em both - silly British!). Thanks again for all your help. Loving the fact that LSH2 2022 is HD, game looks beautiful for its age!

Another question: it doesn't seem like any ships are flying nation flags - is this part of LSH3 or am I missing something?

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