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Old 11-05-21, 11:09 AM   #1
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Am wanting to find out, just what files it is, that sets/controls how fast they drain when submerged. Have a mod set up, that I believe the drainage rate for batteries... has been altered/affected & am looking to see of correcting the issue.

The mod set, in question is...

We dive at Dawn.

I did some tweaking to the T class sub, in getting it to look right, thanks to some work that JapLance did & the tweaking I did, also includes the dazzle mod (authors name for this mod, escaped Me right off... ) for the T class, as well.

After some time spent on this... have the T class looking as it should & includes having the appearance of the sub & the gun/crew slots being there, as well.

Any info on this... would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 11-05-21, 12:14 PM   #2
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Am wanting to find out, just what files it is, that sets/controls how fast they drain when submerged. Have a mod set up, that I believe the drainage rate for batteries... has been altered/affected & am looking to see of correcting the issue.

The mod set, in question is...

We dive at Dawn.

I did some tweaking to the T class sub, in getting it to look right, thanks to some work that JapLance did & the tweaking I did, also includes the dazzle mod (authors name for this mod, escaped Me right off... ) for the T class, as well.

After some time spent on this... have the T class looking as it should & includes having the appearance of the sub & the gun/crew slots being there, as well.

Any info on this... would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.



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i have also searched for that file but have never found it.
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Old 11-05-21, 02:22 PM   #3
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Am wanting to find out, just what files it is, that sets/controls how fast they drain when submerged. Have a mod set up, that I believe the drainage rate for batteries... has been altered/affected & am looking to see of correcting the issue.

The mod set, in question is...

We dive at Dawn.

I did some tweaking to the T class sub, in getting it to look right, thanks to some work that JapLance did & the tweaking I did, also includes the dazzle mod (authors name for this mod, escaped Me right off... ) for the T class, as well.

After some time spent on this... have the T class looking as it should & includes having the appearance of the sub & the gun/crew slots being there, as well.

Any info on this... would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.



M. M.
Hi there M.M. ,

Since you told me about that in your last PM I took a look. In the .sim file there's a controller called unit_submarine which has fields for ranges. I understand that changing the range for submerged range will do it.

Currently the submerged range is entered as 96 miles (nautical miles I guess) at 2 knots. Wikipedia lists an underwater range of 48 hours at 2.5 knots for the T-class boats, which equals to 120 nautical miles at 2.5 knots.

Wiki also states that at the maximum underwater speed of 9 knots batteries would last just 1 hour. You could test those values and see if this max speed endurance is also close.

Hope this helps
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Hi there M.M. ,

Since you told me about that in your last PM I took a look. In the .sim file there's a controller called unit_submarine which has fields for ranges. I understand that changing the range for submerged range will do it.

Currently the submerged range is entered as 96 miles (nautical miles I guess) at 2 knots. Wikipedia lists an underwater range of 48 hours at 2.5 knots for the T-class boats, which equals to 120 nautical miles at 2.5 knots.

Wiki also states that at the maximum underwater speed of 9 knots batteries would last just 1 hour. You could test those values and see if this max speed endurance is also close.

Hope this helps
I noted that same info about the 2.5 knots @ 48 hours run time... just was sitting here, trying to figure out the range limits those figures would translate down to... so yeah, that does help.

Now, the next thing to look at, is figuring out... just how to get into that particular file, to cross check the setting there.

Will see of running a test at 2.5 knots submerged & then for a full bore run at 9 knots... & see what the time value is, if it comes close or misses that info marks, on those speeds.

Thanks for the info.



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Old 11-05-21, 02:57 PM   #5
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You will have to do quite a bit of "testing" (which can be fun), and not just of the battery drain, but also the re-charge rate as well as other aspects. All of the sim settings seem to "bleed" into other seemingly unrelated settings and affect those a bit also.
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You will have to do quite a bit of "testing" (which can be fun), and not just of the battery drain, but also the re-charge rate as well as other aspects. All of the sim settings seem to "bleed" into other seemingly unrelated settings and affect those a bit also.
Good question there... which also led Me to consider & ponder... if after testing just as a base rate... drainage at 2.5 knots submerged...

if after that testing & the follow up, of doing a test run @ 9 knots submerged... & the end results are matching or as close to those of the source info... if perhaps the speed settings for the tele, may not got gotten skewed...

will also see of testing that & seeing what the top speed is after giving the 1/3 ahead order...

What led to all this was.. I gave the 1/3 ahead order & had the batteries drained out after only 8-9 hours run time, submerged. Which, being used to the... U.S. (& of course... the Uboat arm of subs as well... :yep) of batteries NOT draining out, nowhere near that fast.

Only thing I can contemplate as being the... likely culprit, is either the battery file controls or... on retrospect, the speed settings... 1 or the other.. unless there is more than just those 2 areas.



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Old 11-05-21, 04:03 PM   #7
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radar Re: Battery drainage... tests... results...

Hmmm...

Curiouser... & curiouser...

Did 2 tests, (submerged, no less ) & found the oddest end results... which I shall out line.

Test 1:

Before engaging engines... I brought the sub to a complete halt. No forward motion.. submerged & proceeded to order 1/3 ahead...

In the attached snap, note the speed registered on the telegraph...



Boats, kicking close to 4 knots on the tele... what is curious.. is.. & noted, when I gave the order further on.. to engage going 9 knots... is that I had to click on the tele... .5 knots faster, to get the Helmsman(?)/Chief(?) of the boat, to confirm the order given... of 9 knots forward motion. This also held true on the .5 knot extra, on the tele... when I gave & got confirm from the Helmsman(?)/Chief(?) of the boat, to confirm the order given, to go 2.5 knots ahead... strange.

Can't recall when tooling about in either the Uboats or the U.S. boats, of having to do so... at least, NOT that I can recall of here.

Strange fact # 2....

On running a full bore speed run... submerged, no less... boat took to 9 knots, reported on confirm (same conditions as outlined above, of a .5 additional click on the tele... ) of the boat taking to the commands... until the battery got drained down to 50%... after that point, the speed kept dropping, despite My repeated clicking on the tele.. ordering for 9 knots. At this time, had run submerged at full bore.. for about an hour... hour & a half... end result was batteries drained down to 30-35% remaining charge left.

At this point... am unsure of or unclear... as to what would need to be done, to get that set of oddities, ironed out.

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Hi there M.M. ,

Since you told me about that in your last PM I took a look. In the .sim file there's a controller called unit_submarine which has fields for ranges. I understand that changing the range for submerged range will do it.

Currently the submerged range is entered as 96 miles (nautical miles I guess) at 2 knots. Wikipedia lists an underwater range of 48 hours at 2.5 knots for the T-class boats, which equals to 120 nautical miles at 2.5 knots.

Wiki also states that at the maximum underwater speed of 9 knots batteries would last just 1 hour. You could test those values and see if this max speed endurance is also close.

Hope this helps
Thanks for that info, about the range section JapLance... have no way of taking a look... under the hood there, on that aspect, nor the knowledge of what I'd be doing that'd make Me.. confident to go poking abut in that section. I know My limitations... & that's.. an area I don't feel confident to go poking about...
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