Why should we support the Leaders of Ukraine

[Gorpet]

I for one would like to know who the leaders of the Ukraine Government are.And their backgrounds. Who are these people? And what kind of lifestyles did they live before the war? Are they and their families fighting to stay in power.Did they do everything they could do to enhance the everyday lives of their citizens before the war?
And How will they rebuild after this war? When all their youngest men have been killed? You know all their trades people put down their tools and picked a gun yes they are the first ones to stand For a Flag,Will it be National Pride or for a family of rulers? That could give a **** about you or your family as long as they and their children survive. Haven't we wrote books about this in our history?

What do you think pheasants? It's your money that gives them real Freedom

[Skybird]

^ Distraction. Currently does not matter. First things first: come back after the Russians are out.

[Arlo]

Well, seems Gorp loves his Putin.

[astvitaliy1982]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Well, seems Gorp loves his Putin.

Nobody likes Putin more than you guys on this site)))

[Arlo]

Might suggest you amend that to 'some guys.'

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Might suggest you amend that to 'some guys.'

The only I support is the Ukrainian people and it's military who is fighting to survive an unprovoked invasion.

Markus

[astvitaliy1982]

Originally Posted by Arlo

Might suggest you amend that to 'some guys.'

I apologize. I didn't mean you. You put the question very correctly. Who are these people who run Ukraine. In 2014, people from the armies of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the DPR communicated with each other by radio, warned each other about the beginning of shelling, and much more. No one wanted to fight each other. Then provocateurs began to appear. These were platoons of incomprehensible people in black uniforms on cars from Privatbank from Ukraine. They did terrible things on both sides of the front. If you don't believe me, you can watch videos on the Internet for 2014-2015, for example from the city of Volnovakha.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by astvitaliy1982

Nobody likes Putin more than you guys on this site)))

You're talking out of your rear end. Putin and Russia is liked so much that the Ukraine is the recipient of billions of dollars in military and humanitarian aid mostly from the U.S. Other countries are sending military aid as well. This has enabled the Ukraine To fight Russia and Putin to a virtual standstill. Weapons from the U.K and Turkey have played also played decisive roles as well. This says nothing of former military personnel from the U.S, U.K, India and many other countries that are fighting alongside the Ukrainians against Russia.

If you want to create your own narrative of the war in the Ukraine separate from the established facts, don't do it here. We all know better.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

You're talking out of your rear end. Putin and Russia is liked so much that the Ukraine is the recipient of billions of dollars in military and humanitarian aid mostly from the U.S. Other countries are sending military aid as well. This has enabled the Ukraine To fight Russia and Putin to a virtual standstill. Weapons from the U.K and Turkey have played also played decisive roles as well. This says nothing of former military personnel from the U.S, U.K, India and many other countries that are fighting alongside the Ukrainians against Russia.

If you want to create your own narrative of the war in the Ukraine separate from the established facts, don't do it here. We all know better.

I do think you responded to a jest.

[astvitaliy1982]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

You're talking out of your rear end. Putin and Russia is liked so much that the Ukraine is the recipient of billions of dollars in military and humanitarian aid mostly from the U.S. Other countries are sending military aid as well. This has enabled the Ukraine To fight Russia and Putin to a virtual standstill. Weapons from the U.K and Turkey have played also played decisive roles as well. This says nothing of former military personnel from the U.S, U.K, India and many other countries that are fighting alongside the Ukrainians against Russia.

If you want to create your own narrative of the war in the Ukraine separate from the established facts, don't do it here. We all know better.

I think no weapon in the world will help solve the conflict in Ukraine. Even if the weapons are from America, England, Turkey, Europe, even if they are spears and bows, they will not solve the problem of Ukraine. In fact, I have seen with my own eyes how quickly this conflict can be resolved through a truce.(at least to start with this) At this moment, absolutely all weapons fall silent, in one minute!!! I mean, when the authorities of countries really need peace, this issue is resolved very quickly.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by astvitaliy1982

Nobody likes Putin more than you guys on this site)))

Now this made me chuckle, but maybe exchanging "likes" with "being obsessed with" would hit the mark

Regarding what happened in 2014 and before maybe this might help you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity

Russia has been running over its neigbours since a thousand years, its history does not begin with "2014", or "1945".

[Cyborg322]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

I for one would like to know who the leaders of the Ukraine Government are.And their backgrounds. Who are these people? And what kind of lifestyles did they live before the war? Are they and their families fighting to stay in power.Did they do everything they could do to enhance the everyday lives of their citizens before the war?
And How will they rebuild after this war? When all their youngest men have been killed? You know all their trades people put down their tools and picked a gun yes they are the first ones to stand For a Flag,Will it be National Pride or for a family of rulers? That could give a **** about you or your family as long as they and their children survive. Haven't we wrote books about this in our history?

What do you think pheasants? It's your money that gives them real Freedom

Putin did a book I think its was called First Person a kind of updated version of Mein Kampf

[Cybermat47]

Well, one side in this war is an imperialist proto-fascist dictatorship that has committed numerous atrocities (such as child rape) and has threatened other countries.

The other side in this war is fighting to keep rapacious invaders out of its land.

I don't need to say anything else, do I?

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Well, one side in this war is an imperialist proto-fascist dictatorship that has committed numerous atrocities (such as child rape) and has threatened other countries.

The other side in this war is fighting to keep rapacious invaders out of its land.

I don't need to say anything else, do I?

Nailed it

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Nailed it

Yeah, but he was being sneaky about it.
That blade is supposed to cut in both directions, depending on your point of view.

My bottom line, nice countries don't invade their neighbors.