[REL] Fifi Enhancements for NYGM

[bweiss]

Running into an issue with Enhanced v4.4 and v5 where after loading it all up, it runs fine and shows the correct versions at the menu, just as it does in the youtube install video. However, if I just exit SH3 there at the menu, I get a windows error after the game cuts out. The one that says Windows will try and figure it out someday.

If I otherwise try to run single missions or careers it freezes up my system after the load bar finishes. Oddly it loads and plays the Academy training missions just fine. The freeze/lockup happens after the red load bar finishes, (must use ctr, alt, del to bring up task mgr to cancel out of SH3). Have gone explicitly by the instructions all the way. I'm using one of the US DVD's for a XP SP2 DVD version, no Starforce drivers found, and updated with the US DVD 1.4b patch. I have tried all versions I know of/possess, of the no disk patch, including those contained in the old rld-sh14.rar. Nothing alters the freeze issue.

SH3 runs fine if I deactivate the Enhanced NYGM standalone mod, and the two SH3 Cmdr mods for cloud and escort skins. So I presume then the issue is somewhere in the Enhanced v4.4 or v5 files and my version of the DVD, and or the no cd patch. I have three or four version of those, and none of them alter the issue.

The old NYGM runs fine also. Cannot figure out what in the Enhanced NYGM isn't working.


Installed on F:/ (Samsung Portable SSD T5)
Win 8.1
Intel Core i7 4790K
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980

[Aktungbby]

bweiss! back on the surface after a 12-year 'silent run'!

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

Le travaille est tous simplement stupefiant surtout sur les navires.. les explosion ne sont pas en reste ..incendie.. fumee noire..les ajustement aussi pour le tir au canon j ai encore pas tester le reste... vous etes inpayable Master encore une foie vous depasser tous ce que j ai deja vue dans ces mods ....
Graphiquement une tuerie...

The work is simply astonishing, especially on ships.. the explosions are not left out..fire..black smoke..the adjustments also for cannon firing I have yet to test the rest...that promise me I tells you...!!! you are unpayable Master once again and you surpass everything I have already seen in this mods....
Graphically a killing....






STEEL COFFIN EDITION V5 IS OUT!

[FUBAR295]

Originally Posted by bweiss

Running into an issue with Enhanced v4.4 and v5 where after loading it all up, it runs fine and shows the correct versions at the menu, just as it does in the youtube install video. However, if I just exit SH3 there at the menu, I get a windows error after the game cuts out. The one that says Windows will try and figure it out someday.

If I otherwise try to run single missions or careers it freezes up my system after the load bar finishes. Oddly it loads and plays the Academy training missions just fine. The freeze/lockup happens after the red load bar finishes, (must use ctr, alt, del to bring up task mgr to cancel out of SH3). Have gone explicitly by the instructions all the way. I'm using one of the US DVD's for a XP SP2 DVD version, no Starforce drivers found, and updated with the US DVD 1.4b patch. I have tried all versions I know of/possess, of the no disk patch, including those contained in the old rld-sh14.rar. Nothing alters the freeze issue.

SH3 runs fine if I deactivate the Enhanced NYGM standalone mod, and the two SH3 Cmdr mods for cloud and escort skins. So I presume then the issue is somewhere in the Enhanced v4.4 or v5 files and my version of the DVD, and or the no cd patch. I have three or four version of those, and none of them alter the issue.

The old NYGM runs fine also. Cannot figure out what in the Enhanced NYGM isn't working.


Installed on F:/ (Samsung Portable SSD T5)
Win 8.1
Intel Core i7 4790K
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980

Generally, I find if it freezes at start up it is a mod conflict, something is not loading correctly, stalling windows.


Give a list of the mods your using.

[bweiss]

Tks Aktungbby, yes it's been a minute or two. I dabbled with NYGM 2.5 et., al., for a few. Figured I'd try out this lovely new mod.

Originally Posted by FUBAR295

Generally, I find if it freezes at start up it is a mod conflict, something is not loading correctly, stalling windows.


Give a list of the mods your using.

Tks Fubar, I only have the required "NYGM Tonnage War Enhanced – Stand Alone Version" activated via JSGME in the SH3 root. And the two SH3 Cmdr, "Clouds Variety", and "Escorts Skins" activated via it's JSGME in the Sh3 Cmdr folder. As per the install instruc's, I activated the NYGM Tonnage War Enhanced – Stand Alone Version first, then went to the SH3 Cmdr folder JSGME, and installed it within the SH3 Commander folder, making sure those two mods there were activated.

However, one note. The old install you tube video for this, shows opening the SH3.exe after activating the NYGM Tonnage War Enhanced – Stand Alone Version in JSGME. Confirming the NYGM version, and that the program starts, and as a result activating the CFG folder. Which is needed to start a game via SH3 Cmdr. At least, prior loads of this require a SH3.exe start. I think that's what it's for, I've fooled around with this game so long now, I've forgotten 3/4 of what I ever learned. Anyway, with or without a SH3 start after activating the Enhanced NYGM stand alone, it still gives the same two errors (shutdown Windows error, and the single mission/career mission freeze).

But, the error that I also get shutting down the game from Windows happens even before I activate the SH3 Cmdr folder, and it's two mods. Just activating the NYGM Stand alone causes the shutdown error even with out SH3 Cmdr installed in it's folder with the two mods. So whatever it is, happens upon initial load of the NYGM Tonnage War Enhanced – Stand Alone Version, and gives a Windows error on shutdown even without playing the game, (single mission or career), just opening it, then shutting it down via game menu.

The freeze happens when I go ahead and attempt to run a single mission or career. The shutdown error happens upon initial activation of the NYGM Stand alone. It continues with or without the SH3 Cmdr's two mods activated.

I have nothing else in this but the "NYGM ENHANCED STEEL COFFIN EDITION V5.7z" files contained in the zip. (Or v4.4 files, same results). One more note. If I deactivate the SH3 Cmdr's two mods (clouds and escort skins), and deactivate the "NYGM Tonnage War Enhanced – Stand Alone Version", then open the sh3.exe, the game runs fine and no longer gives a shutdown error.


Oh and yes this is through multiple SH3 game deletions/clean reinstalls (about 12 times in all), using CC Cleaner to nix out any SH3 entries in the registry after every SH3 deletion.


This is killing me. This mod appears to be the pentacle of them all. Wouldn't ya know. Always got to be one in the crowd. Woe, is me.

[Kal_Maximus_U669]

Oh Boy"admire the quality of these ships...THXXXl Master a remarkable job...

[FUBAR295]

Originally Posted by bweiss

Tks Aktungbby, yes it's been a minute or two. I dabbled with NYGM 2.5 et., al., for a few. Figured I'd try out this lovely new mod.

Tks Fubar, I only have the required "NYGM Tonnage War Enhanced – Stand Alone Version" activated via JSGME in the SH3 root. And the two SH3 Cmdr, "Clouds Variety", and "Escorts Skins" activated via it's JSGME in the Sh3 Cmdr folder. As per the install instruc's, I activated the NYGM Tonnage War Enhanced – Stand Alone Version first, then went to the SH3 Cmdr folder JSGME, and installed it within the SH3 Commander folder, making sure those two mods there were activated.

However, one note. The old install you tube video for this, shows opening the SH3.exe after activating the NYGM Tonnage War Enhanced – Stand Alone Version in JSGME. Confirming the NYGM version, and that the program starts, and as a result activating the CFG folder. Which is needed to start a game via SH3 Cmdr. At least, prior loads of this require a SH3.exe start. I think that's what it's for, I've fooled around with this game so long now, I've forgotten 3/4 of what I ever learned. Anyway, with or without a SH3 start after activating the Enhanced NYGM stand alone, it still gives the same two errors (shutdown Windows error, and the single mission/career mission freeze).

But, the error that I also get shutting down the game from Windows happens even before I activate the SH3 Cmdr folder, and it's two mods. Just activating the NYGM Stand alone causes the shutdown error even with out SH3 Cmdr installed in it's folder with the two mods. So whatever it is, happens upon initial load of the NYGM Tonnage War Enhanced – Stand Alone Version, and gives a Windows error on shutdown even without playing the game, (single mission or career), just opening it, then shutting it down via game menu.

The freeze happens when I go ahead and attempt to run a single mission or career. The shutdown error happens upon initial activation of the NYGM Stand alone. It continues with or without the SH3 Cmdr's two mods activated.

I have nothing else in this but the "NYGM ENHANCED STEEL COFFIN EDITION V5.7z" files contained in the zip. (Or v4.4 files, same results). One more note. If I deactivate the SH3 Cmdr's two mods (clouds and escort skins), and deactivate the "NYGM Tonnage War Enhanced – Stand Alone Version", then open the sh3.exe, the game runs fine and no longer gives a shutdown error.


Oh and yes this is through multiple SH3 game deletions/clean reinstalls (about 12 times in all), using CC Cleaner to nix out any SH3 entries in the registry after every SH3 deletion.


This is killing me. This mod appears to be the pentacle of them all. Wouldn't ya know. Always got to be one in the crowd. Woe, is me.

Alright, do you have the "Compatibility" set up along with "Run as Admin" in Properties? This needs to be done with SH3.exe, along with any program that SH3 relies upon for operation.

[bweiss]

Originally Posted by FUBAR295

Alright, do you have the "Compatibility" set up along with "Run as Admin" in Properties? This needs to be done with SH3.exe, along with any program that SH3 relies upon for operation.

Jawohl, Herr Kaleun!

Have set Admin authority for all .exe files, as well as Compatibility for Win 7 on all of them, as well as tried compat for XP SP2, and Win 8, and all combinations thereof. Even tried allowing the app to choose its own native tongue as my SH3 (and the one from Enhanced NYGM), wants XPSP2 if you allow it to choose, where as the copy of SH3 Cmdr in the mod wants "Vista".

No matter how I set the admin rights or compats, it does not alter the two issues even when they are all set to Win 7, and Admin.

I'm running out of things to try other than things that shouldn't matter. Like maybe loading it on my C:/ drive instead of an SSD? I suppose I'll go there. I really want to get this to work.

I have three SH3 DVD's. Two are the same XP SP2 version US DVD, but one is a SH3 DVD from 2004, which I think was like one of the first ones that came out. It won't update. I tried the v1.1, 1.2, 1.3, and 1.4b, even tried the Euro 1.4b, and it won't accept any updates. I was going to try that to see if it would work with Enhanced NYGM since it lists as a Win7, Vista version on the CD print. But no, it won't update. Arrggg.

[FUBAR295]

Originally Posted by bweiss

Jawohl, Herr Kaleun!

Have set Admin authority for all .exe files, as well as Compatibility for Win 7 on all of them, as well as tried compat for XP SP2, and Win 8, and all combinations thereof. Even tried allowing the app to choose its own native tongue as my SH3 (and the one from Enhanced NYGM), wants XPSP2 if you allow it to choose, where as the copy of SH3 Cmdr in the mod wants "Vista".

No matter how I set the admin rights or compats, it does not alter the two issues even when they are all set to Win 7, and Admin.

I'm running out of things to try other than things that shouldn't matter. Like maybe loading it on my C:/ drive instead of an SSD? I suppose I'll go there. I really want to get this to work.

I have three SH3 DVD's. Two are the same XP SP2 version US DVD, but one is a SH3 DVD from 2004, which I think was like one of the first ones that came out. It won't update. I tried the v1.1, 1.2, 1.3, and 1.4b, even tried the Euro 1.4b, and it won't accept any updates. I was going to try that to see if it would work with Enhanced NYGM since it lists as a Win7, Vista version on the CD print. But no, it won't update. Arrggg.

Previously you wrote "The freeze/lockup happens after the red load bar finishes, (must use ctr, alt, del to bring up task mgr to cancel out of SH3)." Did you ALT/TAB back out to the desk top to see if you have error messages. If you have a conflict, you will see notifications on the issue.

[Fifi]

YOU CAN DELETE THE ESCORT SKIN MOD IN THE SH3 COMMANDER MODS FOLDER… I FORGOT TO DO IT… IT’S USELESS & UNWANTED NOW
JUST KEEP ACTIVATED THE CLOUDS VARIETY MOD!

@bweiss:
I’m afraid it’s an issue on your side… no freeze or CTDs issues here at all.
I suspect you have a lack of memory on your computer, hence the freeze when launching career mode (requiring the max memory, unless in the academy)
NYGM Steel Coffin V5 requires good pc performances now, and will probably encounter troubles running on laptop or edge line pc…

[bweiss]

Originally Posted by FUBAR295

Previously you wrote "The freeze/lockup happens after the red load bar finishes, (must use ctr, alt, del to bring up task mgr to cancel out of SH3)." Did you ALT/TAB back out to the desk top to see if you have error messages. If you have a conflict, you will see notifications on the issue.

Cannot Alt/Tab out of the freeze. It's a dead screen freeze. Only means of escape is to Ctl/Alt/Del to task manager, twice! Which then shows a split screen with half blank, and half showing Task Mgr, with a SH3 game icon on the lower menu bar which I can then right click on the mouse over it to close the game icon out shutting down SH3. Or, choose it in Task Mgr and close it out.

Originally Posted by Fifi

YOU CAN DELETE THE ESCORT SKIN MOD IN THE SH3 COMMANDER MODS FOLDER… I FORGOT TO DO IT… IT’S USELESS & UNWANTED NOW
JUST KEEP ACTIVATED THE CLOUDS VARIETY MOD!

@bweiss:
I’m afraid it’s an issue on your side… no freeze or CTDs issues here at all.
I suspect you have a lack of memory on your computer, hence the freeze when launching career mode (requiring the max memory, unless in the academy)
NYGM Steel Coffin V5 requires good pc performances now, and will probably encounter troubles running on laptop or edge line pc…

Oh no doubt about it being on my end ole Chap. From the 122 plus pages in this thread, there are sufficient witnesses that can attest to it's successful deployment. Tis I who seems to be the odd man out. You are all very gracious in trying to assist, much appreciated.


Back on point, the exact same things happen with NYGM SSC v4.4, so it's not just V5. Also, this system has 16 gb mem at 3990 mhz, the GTX 980 has 4096 mb GDDR5, clocked at 1165 mhz GPU, 1753 mhz Mem, with 1266 mhz Boost base, no overclocking. Frame rates on NYGM 3.3c, fully and I mean heavily modded hits 120 fps open sea, and approx. 60-80 fps in shore terrain visible (trees, buildings, ships, etc).

I'll pull the escorts skins out of SH3 Cmdr, and try that. But I doubt that's the issue. The game shutdown Windows error begins with the JSGME load of the NYGM Stand Alone mod. Immediately results in a game shutdown Windows error. as listed below in items 1 thru 4. If I pull the NYGM Stand Alone out with JSGME, then SH3 runs just fine, albeit in normal non-wide screen display. But no shutdown error, and no freeze.

So really there are two issues. The shutdown error, and the freeze. Which may or may not be connected, but I suspect they are and the way the system is acting my gut says it is a display issue, somewhere in the NYGM Stand Alone mod. I'll try and reverse dissection of the mod and using different d3d9.dll and d3d9.ini files and see what happens.

I remember having to monkey around with NYGM 3.6D, and NYGM 2017A, to get the MaGui 3.4 SA widescreen 1920x1080 to work. My display can run at 4096x2160, but normally I use a 3840x2160 display for all other games. For SH3, I've never found a means of widescreen that will run above 1920x1080, though I didn't spend that much time trying to make it work in the old NYGM above 1920x1080 as it throws other menu graphics off in size.


It could be, but I doubt it is memory. I run IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 B.A.T., with tons of stuff and still hit fps above 100 (never below), schmoove... Still, reverse engineering this Enhanced NYGM might lead me to see where the issue resides and appears to be the only means of finding these two issue(s), if they are indeed two separate or perhaps one combined issue which remains a mystery.



Here is the error pattern when the install instructions are followed and NYGM Enhanced v4.4 or v5 is loaded (along with the SH3 Cmdr mod(s).


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(Any load of the sh3.exe, without going into any menu item - just open and shut, results in a Windows error when exiting, if NYGM Enhanced v4.4 or v5 is activated.) - Shutdown error meaning after the sh3.exe has closed out, and the screen returns to Windows, then the little Windows error notification pops up.


When executing sh3.exe, then choosing a menu item, the following occurs:


(1). Museum selection results in an immediate dead lock screen freeze (task manager to exit).


(2). Single Mission results in a dead lock screen freeze following a full red bar load at it's finish (task mgr to exit).


(3). Career Mission results in a dead lock screen freeze following a full red bar load at it's finish (task mgr to exit).


However... (4). Academy Training missions load just fine and run successfully, no freeze but still get a shutdown error upon exiting the game.

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So there is a key question right there. What is the common link between items 1-3, that does not exist for item 4 in the SH3 executable process?



To contradict my own suspicion, that would "not" seem to be a display issue since the display is a 1920x1080 for the Academy Training missions which run fine. (scratches head). Thanks guys, I appreciate everyone's input. I am going to keep plucking away at this.


There is a clue there with the four items above. Just have to find it.

Salute~

[FUBAR295]

@bweiss:
I’m afraid it’s an issue on your side… no freeze or CTDs issues here at all.
I suspect you have a lack of memory on your computer, hence the freeze when launching career mode (requiring the max memory, unless in the academy)
NYGM Steel Coffin V5 requires good pc performances now, and will probably encounter troubles running on laptop or edge line pc…


Fifi does have a very good point. What is your machine specs?

[bweiss]

Originally Posted by FUBAR295

@bweiss:
I’m afraid it’s an issue on your side… no freeze or CTDs issues here at all.
I suspect you have a lack of memory on your computer, hence the freeze when launching career mode (requiring the max memory, unless in the academy)
NYGM Steel Coffin V5 requires good pc performances now, and will probably encounter troubles running on laptop or edge line pc…


Fifi does have a very good point. What is your machine specs?

Win 8.1 (All Updates)
Intel Core i7 4790k Haswell, Family 6, Core Speed: 4389.52 Mhz
Main Board: Gigabyte Z97X-UD5H, Intel Southbridge Z97
Memory: 16 Gb, Dual Channel DDR3 3990.5 Mhz
Graphics: Nvidia GeForce GTX 980, 4 Gb, GDDR5, GPU Core Speed 1753 Mhz, Memory Speed 1165 Mhz.
Installed on a Samsung SSD T5 labled as drive (F).


No overclocking. Nvidia driver 473.04, dtd: Jan 17, 2022, Win 8.1, 64 bit.

[Fifi]

For next update, i have reintroduced this ship as a new one (because i replaced it by nice AlexB model previously)



... and created this little coastal cargo, from my SH4 DW and others parts...
Perso i like it, and even if it's not 100% historical accurate, it's always nice to have more little buddies





Starting to love ships creation

[bweiss]

Ah HAH!! Hot diggity doggies, I got it to work. And it is beautiful. The ships, the ocean, the wave actions against the boat, the Uboat skins, the crew, the boat interior, all just gorgeous, simply gorgeous. Can't wait to set sail.

Open ocean levels at 120-130 fps on deck, up close to the convoy in the "Happy Times" single mission I get 55-65 fps with a tanker burning and sinking. Can't ask for more.

Okay, the secret sauce to my delimma was in the Main.cfg file.

Original Main.cfg file contained in the NYGM ENHANCED STEEL COFFIN EDITION V5 reads:

[VIDEO]
Resolution=1024 x 800
DynamicShadows=No
FullScreen=Yes
Synchronized=No
ParticleDensity=100
TextureResolutionHigh=Yes

All I did was change it to:

[VIDEO]
Resolution=1920 x 1080
DynamicShadows=No
FullScreen=Yes
Synchronized=Yes
ParticleDensity=100
TextureResolutionHigh=Yes

...and Presto!

Works like a charm. No more Windows shutdown error, no more screen freeze.


How can it be that simple?


oddball.jpg "Oh, man. I only ride em, I don't know what makes em work."


First I would like to thank the academy, and my first grade teacher Ms. Yarnhouse, and of course Fifi and Fubar for all their talented and hard work, and my two Tom Cats who patiently await my attention...

Danke alte kameraden!