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Old 12-09-22, 01:51 PM   #4696
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Here's another one who did nothing more than Griner did but he ain't even making the news at all.



Why her and not him?
That's the thing August. For the past 6 months all we heard from Biden is working on getting Griner out. Not a word about Whalen until today at a press conference. The entire administration is full of wokeness it can not see the forest for the trees.
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Old 12-09-22, 02:04 PM   #4697
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That's the thing August. For the past 6 months all we heard from Biden is working on getting Griner out. Not a word about Whalen until today at a press conference. The entire administration is full of wokeness it can not see the forest for the trees.
I have to believe it was purely the demographic boxes that Griner checked. We're talking about an administration that has a long history of picking people based on their physical characteristics and their sexual preferences from Supreme Court justices, VP's Cabinet members right down to Spokespersons.

Biden didn't want to be known as a rescuer of Americans, he will never catch up to the 50 people Trump brought home anyways. Instead he wanted to be the first one to liberate a Gay Black American. She was to use their word the "historical choice".

Meanwhile Marc Fogel continues to rot in a Russian penal colony at hard labor. A 61 year old at hard labor for the next 14 years. He'll never see American shores again unless it's as a box of cremated ashes and his family probably won't see even that.
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Old 12-09-22, 02:11 PM   #4698
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I have to believe it was purely the demographic boxes that Griner checked. We're talking about an administration that has a long history of picking people based on their physical characteristics and their sexual preferences from Supreme Court justices, VP's Cabinet members right down to Spokespersons.

Biden didn't want to be known as a rescuer of Americans, he will never catch up to the 50 people Trump brought home anyways. Instead he wanted to be the first one to liberate a Gay Black American. She was to use their word the "historical choice".

Meanwhile Marc Fogel continues to rot in a Russian penal colony at hard labor. A 61 year old at hard labor for the next 14 years. He'll never see American shores again unless it's as a box of cremated ashes and his family probably won't see even that.
Dead on correct on all counts! The woke crap is out of control and will eventually bit them in the arse.
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Old 12-09-22, 06:40 PM   #4699
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Griner was being held for effectively nothing while Whalen is being held for espionage. No deal.
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Old 12-09-22, 06:51 PM   #4700
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I have to believe it was purely the demographic boxes that Griner checked. We're talking about an administration that has a long history of picking people based on their physical characteristics and their sexual preferences from Supreme Court justices, VP's Cabinet members right down to Spokespersons.

Biden didn't want to be known as a rescuer of Americans, he will never catch up to the 50 people Trump brought home anyways. Instead he wanted to be the first one to liberate a Gay Black American. She was to use their word the "historical choice".

Meanwhile Marc Fogel continues to rot in a Russian penal colony at hard labor. A 61 year old at hard labor for the next 14 years. He'll never see American shores again unless it's as a box of cremated ashes and his family probably won't see even that.
pretty much He was arrested in August 2021 at a Moscow airport after entering the country with roughly 17 grams of cannabis that his family and lawyer said was prescribed by a doctor in the U.S. to treat chronic pain.But a major difference for Fogel is that, unlike Griner and Whelan, he has not been designated by the U.S. State Department as wrongfully detained now the question is why not,again bonehead biden and dems made this country a laughing stock to the whole world again.i can't stand woke and can't stand a worthless democrat
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Griner was being held for effectively nothing while Whalen is being held for espionage. No deal.

And Fogel?
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Old 12-09-22, 07:24 PM   #4702
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What I want to know is where are all the democrats, left wing liberals, mandate Nazis support for the Iranian government currently battling insurrection by peaceful protestors?

When are you all going to fly over there and help Iran quell the insurrectionists and extremists attempting to promote their twisted sense of freedom. Maybe those in California can help Iranian government develope laws that punish dissent, 2nd opinions and anyone challenging the party line.

It’s amazing how similar the Democrat’s rhetoric is to Putin, Xi, Khomeini and other dictators.
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What I want to know is where are all the democrats, left wing liberals, mandate Nazis support for the Iranian government currently battling insurrection by peaceful protestors?

When are you all going to fly over there and help Iran quell the insurrectionists and extremists attempting to promote their twisted sense of freedom. Maybe those in California can help Iranian government develope laws that punish dissent, 2nd opinions and anyone challenging the party line.

It’s amazing how similar the Democrat’s rhetoric is to Putin, Xi, Khomeini and other dictators.
I don't know. Where are they?
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Why her and not him?
As your quote says, he is not deemed wrongfully detained. He also worked for 10 years in Russia and should have known better.


I don't agree with his sentence, but there are at least reasons why his case is not as simple.
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I'm going a little off topic from your discussion about Americans in prison in other countries.

I do not care who is elected in other countries, I do however care about that the election is square and faire.

Some hours ago I read in a comment on Twitter who had deliberately censored on of the candidates in the 2020 election. You know how it is don't have to mention his name.

It made me both sad and angry.

Now you can go back and discuss: Americans in foreign prison

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As your quote says, he is not deemed wrongfully detained. He also worked for 10 years in Russia and should have known better.


I don't agree with his sentence, but there are at least reasons why his case is not as simple.

Sorry Dowly. It is that simple.
Griner was not wrongfully detained either regardless of what Biden says. She actually did try to smuggle those hash oil vape cartridges into the country, and without even a doctors prescription for them like Fogel had.

Nor was she some innocent newcomer as you trying to imply. Griner had played five entire seasons for that Russian team before getting arrested on the sixth trip over, so if Fogel should have known better then so should she have.
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Sorry Dowly. It is that simple.
Griner was not wrongfully detained either regardless of what Biden says. She actually did try to smuggle those hash oil vape cartridges into the country, and without even a doctors prescription for them like Fogel had.

Nor was she some innocent newcomer as you trying to imply. Griner had played five entire seasons for that Russian team before getting arrested on the sixth trip over, so if Fogel should have known better then so should she have.
Very weak argument.
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I do not care who is elected in other countries, I do however care about that the election is square and faire.

Some hours ago I read in a comment on Twitter who had deliberately censored on of the candidates in the 2020 election. You know how it is don't have to mention his name.

It made me both sad and angry.

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It goes a lot deeper then just censoring a political figure, They also silenced Doctors, Scientists & normal everyday people (pretty much anyone who posted information or an opinion they didn't like) under the guise of "misinformation".

Twitter isn't the only bad apple here, The Alphabet (google) & Meta (Facebook) corporations should also be looked at, and section 230 of the communications decency act needs to be amended, if not outright removed.
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Very weak argument.
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