Help with Il-2 1946

05-29-11, 10:01 AM

So I got and installed this wonderful sim and to my dismay, I need some serious help with flying. I cant seem to even hold the darned thing steady in the air let alone hit anything, can anyone give me any good tips on pretty much any sort of flying shooting manuevers etc in this game?? ANd where I should download a good Third Party DCG from?? I see there is one in game but I heard that third party ones are better. Thanks. Casey

Dowly · 05-29-11, 11:28 AM

If you have joystick, then check the buttons for trims and trim the plane. If you don't have joystick, get one, NOW.

Lowengrin's DCG can be downloaded from his site @ http://www.lowengrin.com/news.php

yubba · 05-29-11, 11:43 AM

try reconfigure-ing joystick , then go into the game menu, find controls and, set your positive and negative trim, into keyboard up and down arrows good luck

Schroeder · 05-29-11, 12:31 PM

One more advice: practice, practise and practise again. This is a sim (or at least close to that

) and there is a reason why pilots need several hours of training in double seater trainers before they can fly an aircraft alone.
Start flying with a forgiving aircraft like the Il-2 and be easy on the controls. No abrupt pulling/pushing. Stay away from late war fighters as they are usually difficult to fly (especially the P51 and the FW 190 are awful for beginners).

05-29-11, 07:41 PM

Okay, I will take all of your's advice

As far as Joystick goes, I dont have a working one. By that I mean I have a Saitek St 290 and It wont work anymore, it remember just plugging it into the USB and playing with it before (FSX) but now it doesnt seem to register in any game. I believe its because Im missing the drivers which I cant seem to figure out how to get them so I can get it to work. Even more troubling is I went to wal mart today to get a new joystick and found out they dont carry them anymore -_- so could anyone help me out with this little joystick problem Im having?? Either by letting me know how to get my Saitek St 290 working again or where I can get a decent cheap one??

Casey

TheGreatHonker · 05-30-11, 02:26 AM

Obviously you'll want a joystick, and of course each plane has different handling characteristics. The I-16's have the handling of a Mouse on PCP, while Me-109's have the handling of a fish on crack, then there's the Me-262 which is like a cheetah on heroin.

Like Schroeter said, practice x3.
Shooting is harder in this sim then in others, so if you have limited ammo wait til you're at least 30 meters away, or whatever unit of measurment this game uses. Either way wait til around 40 - 30. Some pilots said they waited til the enemy plane filled the gunsight.

Having no life, I'm at the point where I fly Yak-3's under bridges while doing a barrel roll.
Sorry just felt like bragging for second.... back on topic.
Yak-3's have the handling of a falcon on meth, by the way.

A good practice method is to just take a fighter up against 4 Ju-52's or Stukas/Storchs/non fighters in general that have no ammunition.

yubba · 06-12-11, 04:25 PM

I got a saitlek st 220 with a billion hours on it, troubles aye go in to control panel game devices you should be able to get your stick to work through there, I have long lost driver floppy for mine but have no troubles playing. Heard Dowly, doesn't use trim, I guess he just likes holding on to the stick. sorry about the timing on the advice, seems my mouse is acting up. Hurricane isn't a bad plane you should reset your gun convergence out to 750 meters and try a little head on chicken fightin, 12 forward 303s make a mess of things. I perfer the p47 with head on gun slingin. Doesn't hurt to be a good shot either.

06-07-11, 06:55 PM

Okay now I am going to try online and see how my internet handles, what patch level do I need to be at? And where can I get all of the patches I need?

Also where or how do I get hyperlobby

plus Id like to know if theres an essential GWX like mod that people usually use on here or if there are some nice skin packs, I'd really like some new looking planes.

Schroeder · 06-08-11, 02:28 PM

The current version is 4.10m, as for mods try HSFX or the Ultra Pack.

Raptor1 · 06-08-11, 02:39 PM

In fact, the latest version is 4.101m, and the update order is 4.08m -> 4.09m -> 4.10m -> 4.101m. I don't have links for all of them at the moment, but they shouldn't be hard to find.

EDIT: Well, actually, M4T has all of them here, though you do need to register. There's a megapatch that supposedly updates the stock version to the latest one, but I'm not sure how well that works.

06-08-11, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder

The current version is 4.10m, as for mods try HSFX or the Ultra Pack.

where would I find those mods?

Raptor1 · 06-08-11, 06:05 PM

You'll have to search for them, since linking IL-2 mods on Subsim is not allowed (Though discussing them is).

*cough* look for 242Sqn and IL2WAR, respectively *cough*

Kpt. Schaker · 06-08-11, 07:09 PM

I recommend the HOTAS Thrustmaster Joystick

. Reading the manual several times, customizing down the pitch, roll, yaw to less sensitive settings. Try this setting on the yaw 0,8,19,29,39,51,62,75,86,100. Join the Mission 4 Today forums. Also fighter planes are more sensitive and more responsive. The Bombers like the Heinkel 111 are more easier to manuever. Alot of reading

, customizing of controls, & practice, practice, practice. Enjoy I love this sim also

! Alot pilot trainers recommend this Sim.

05-29-11, 10:01 AM	#1
reignofdeath Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Help with Il-2 1946 So I got and installed this wonderful sim and to my dismay, I need some serious help with flying. I cant seem to even hold the darned thing steady in the air let alone hit anything, can anyone give me any good tips on pretty much any sort of flying shooting manuevers etc in this game?? ANd where I should download a good Third Party DCG from?? I see there is one in game but I heard that third party ones are better. Thanks. Casey

05-29-11, 12:31 PM	#4
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	One more advice: practice, practise and practise again. This is a sim (or at least close to that) and there is a reason why pilots need several hours of training in double seater trainers before they can fly an aircraft alone. Start flying with a forgiving aircraft like the Il-2 and be easy on the controls. No abrupt pulling/pushing. Stay away from late war fighters as they are usually difficult to fly (especially the P51 and the FW 190 are awful for beginners). __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

06-12-11, 04:25 PM	#7
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	I got a saitlek st 220 with a billion hours on it, troubles aye go in to control panel game devices you should be able to get your stick to work through there, I have long lost driver floppy for mine but have no troubles playing. Heard Dowly, doesn't use trim, I guess he just likes holding on to the stick. sorry about the timing on the advice, seems my mouse is acting up. Hurricane isn't a bad plane you should reset your gun convergence out to 750 meters and try a little head on chicken fightin, 12 forward 303s make a mess of things. I perfer the p47 with head on gun slingin. Doesn't hurt to be a good shot either. Last edited by yubba; 06-12-11 at 04:58 PM.

06-08-11, 02:28 PM	#9
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	The current version is 4.10m, as for mods try HSFX or the Ultra Pack. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

06-08-11, 02:39 PM	#10
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	In fact, the latest version is 4.101m, and the update order is 4.08m -> 4.09m -> 4.10m -> 4.101m. I don't have links for all of them at the moment, but they shouldn't be hard to find. EDIT: Well, actually, M4T has all of them here, though you do need to register. There's a megapatch that supposedly updates the stock version to the latest one, but I'm not sure how well that works. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

05-29-11, 11:28 AM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	If you have joystick, then check the buttons for trims and trim the plane. If you don't have joystick, get one, NOW. Lowengrin's DCG can be downloaded from his site @ http://www.lowengrin.com/news.php

05-29-11, 11:43 AM	#3
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	try reconfigure-ing joystick , then go into the game menu, find controls and, set your positive and negative trim, into keyboard up and down arrows good luck

05-29-11, 07:41 PM	#5
reignofdeath Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Okay, I will take all of your's advice As far as Joystick goes, I dont have a working one. By that I mean I have a Saitek St 290 and It wont work anymore, it remember just plugging it into the USB and playing with it before (FSX) but now it doesnt seem to register in any game. I believe its because Im missing the drivers which I cant seem to figure out how to get them so I can get it to work. Even more troubling is I went to wal mart today to get a new joystick and found out they dont carry them anymore -_- so could anyone help me out with this little joystick problem Im having?? Either by letting me know how to get my Saitek St 290 working again or where I can get a decent cheap one?? Casey

05-30-11, 02:26 AM	#6
TheGreatHonker Seaman Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 33 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Obviously you'll want a joystick, and of course each plane has different handling characteristics. The I-16's have the handling of a Mouse on PCP, while Me-109's have the handling of a fish on crack, then there's the Me-262 which is like a cheetah on heroin. Like Schroeter said, practice x3. Shooting is harder in this sim then in others, so if you have limited ammo wait til you're at least 30 meters away, or whatever unit of measurment this game uses. Either way wait til around 40 - 30. Some pilots said they waited til the enemy plane filled the gunsight. Having no life, I'm at the point where I fly Yak-3's under bridges while doing a barrel roll. Sorry just felt like bragging for second.... back on topic. Yak-3's have the handling of a falcon on meth, by the way. A good practice method is to just take a fighter up against 4 Ju-52's or Stukas/Storchs/non fighters in general that have no ammunition.

06-07-11, 06:55 PM	#8
reignofdeath Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Okay now I am going to try online and see how my internet handles, what patch level do I need to be at? And where can I get all of the patches I need? Also where or how do I get hyperlobby plus Id like to know if theres an essential GWX like mod that people usually use on here or if there are some nice skin packs, I'd really like some new looking planes.

06-08-11, 06:05 PM	#12
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	You'll have to search for them, since linking IL-2 mods on Subsim is not allowed (Though discussing them is). cough look for 242Sqn and IL2WAR, respectively cough __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

06-08-11, 07:09 PM	#13
Kpt. Schaker Seaman Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: N34 4.13483, W118 1.68516 Posts: 42 Downloads: 145 Uploads: 2	I recommend the HOTAS Thrustmaster Joystick. Reading the manual several times, customizing down the pitch, roll, yaw to less sensitive settings. Try this setting on the yaw 0,8,19,29,39,51,62,75,86,100. Join the Mission 4 Today forums. Also fighter planes are more sensitive and more responsive. The Bombers like the Heinkel 111 are more easier to manuever. Alot of reading, customizing of controls, & practice, practice, practice. Enjoy I love this sim also! Alot pilot trainers recommend this Sim.