US Politics Thread 2021-24 - Page 17

AVGWarhawk · 01-28-21, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

That comment form you renminds of the Chinese emperor Xi who recently expressed concerns about the censorship and lack of free speech in the US due to the Twitter and Facebook ban against Biden's predecessor.

He is really very concerned bout the state of free speech in the world.

OJ Simpon still believes he is innocent. He must be because he kept saying he is.

Mr Quatro · 01-28-21, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The dingbats will not be called as witnesses. First, these idiots have been arrested. They are unreliable as witnesses. Further, throwing Trump under the bus will not help their own case.

Have you noticed that Trumps trial is starting before the trials of the ones that broke into the Capitol?

So much for due process

mapuc · 01-28-21, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bstanko6

You it’s fraud when Biden gets more votes than Obama without campaigning

Well as seen from one outside USA I can only say-that Biden didn't have to campaigning-Former President did very well in his effort to get defeated in the National election.

Markus

Rockstar · 01-28-21, 11:38 AM

Their is the issue of responsibility for ones own action. "The devil made me do it" isn't a defense. Unless of course mental illness is found to be a factor then all it proves is that they truly are dingbats.

Then there's the dingbats who think a U.S. President can rule by edict or decree and prevent the spread of COVID. Its just dingbats accusing other dingbats of being dingbats.

AVGWarhawk · 01-28-21, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Have you noticed that Trumps trial is starting before the trials of the ones that broke into the Capitol?

So much for due process

Understand this is a diversion. Will Capitol Hill continues to talk impeachment the president is busy running off executive orders without much challenge.

Buddahaid · 01-28-21, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Have you noticed that Trumps trial is starting before the trials of the ones that broke into the Capitol?

So much for due process

You are witnessing due process.

AVGWarhawk · 01-28-21, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Then their is the issue of responsibility for ones own action. "The devil made me do it" isn't a defense. Unless of course mental illness is found to be a factor then all it proves is that they truly are dingbats.

Then there's the dingbats who think a U.S. President can rule by edict or decree and prevent the spread of COVID. Its just dingbats accusing other dingbats of being dingbats.

That is a lot of dingbats. However, back to the mental illness. QAnon. Enough said.

AVGWarhawk · 01-28-21, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

You are witnessing due process.

But I think the process is being held in the wrong building and the use of the word impeachment is incorrect. Trump is a civilian. Criminal court and conviction.

Buddahaid · 01-28-21, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

But I think the process is being held in the wrong building and the use of the word impeachment is incorrect. Trump is a civilian. Criminal court and conviction.

I don't think that is all that clear.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/can-form...-and-convicted

Rockstar · 01-28-21, 12:11 PM

Don't expect protections of due process in a Senate impeachment trial.

Impeachment is a political process not a legal one. Since its not a criminal trial protections of due process are NOT a part of the show. All the Senate needs is a majority vote to remove a person from office or prevent the person from holding office in the future. If the accused is voted out he is then banished from the kingdom and from the protections his former office afforded him and left to the wolves out side the gate. THEN and only then may criminal prosecution be brought against the former official for which he was impeached. THEN and only then do the protections of due process apply.

AVGWarhawk · 01-28-21, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I don't think that is all that clear.

https://www.lawfareblog.com/can-form...-and-convicted

Impeaching is a process to remove from office. Trump is no longer in office. IMO, the process is in the wrong building. It should be in criminal court were due process is found. You won't find due process in the House.

mapuc · 01-28-21, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Impeaching is a process to remove from office. Trump is no longer in office. IMO, the process is in the wrong building. It should be in criminal court were due process is found. You won't find due process in the House.

?? Wasn't the upcoming impeachment an attempt to prevent former president running for Oval office in 2024 ?

Markus

AVGWarhawk · 01-28-21, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

?? Wasn't the upcoming impeachment an attempt to prevent former president running for Oval office in 2024 ?

Markus

Yes but I think the ship has sailed on that. He is out of office. I truly don' t think Trump is running again anyway. If so, run as an independent. As long as rules are being made up as they go along I guess Trump can make up some rules as he goes along as an independent.

IMO, I don't see him running again.

Buddahaid · 01-28-21, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Impeaching is a process to remove from office. Trump is no longer in office. IMO, the process is in the wrong building. It should be in criminal court were due process is found. You won't find due process in the House.

I understand there have been impeachments carried on after the person resigned from office so there is some presidence. It may have been a Judge but I haven't found it. No time to look now.

AVGWarhawk · 01-28-21, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I understand there have been impeachments carried on after the person resigned from office so there is some presidence. It may have been a Judge but I haven't found it. No time to look now.

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Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,856 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Their is the issue of responsibility for ones own action. "The devil made me do it" isn't a defense. Unless of course mental illness is found to be a factor then all it proves is that they truly are dingbats. Then there's the dingbats who think a U.S. President can rule by edict or decree and prevent the spread of COVID. Its just dingbats accusing other dingbats of being dingbats. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

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Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,856 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Don't expect protections of due process in a Senate impeachment trial. Impeachment is a political process not a legal one. Since its not a criminal trial protections of due process are NOT a part of the show. All the Senate needs is a majority vote to remove a person from office or prevent the person from holding office in the future. If the accused is voted out he is then banished from the kingdom and from the protections his former office afforded him and left to the wolves out side the gate. THEN and only then may criminal prosecution be brought against the former official for which he was impeached. THEN and only then do the protections of due process apply. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 01-28-21 at 12:22 PM.