Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Jimbuna]

[Dargo]

The purpose of the invasion is not just to capture territory but to cleanse Ukraine of its separate identity, which threatens the identity of Russia as an imperial nation. Along with its punitive forces, the Kremlin has also dispatched hundreds of schoolteachers to re-educate Ukrainian children in the occupied territories. It equates an independent sovereign Ukraine with Nazism. Either Ukraine will cease to exist as a nation state or Russia itself will be infected by the idea of emancipation that will destroy its imperial identity.

The bleakest of all is the outlook for Russia. Mr Putin did not plan on a war of attrition. He imagined that a strike on Kyiv would rapidly lead to a new regime in Ukraine and the submission of Ukrainian society to his will. So far, Mr Putin has failed to defeat Ukraine. But he has succeeded in defeating Russia. https://www.economist.com/briefing/2...ussian-fascism

[Dargo]

Ukraine has more than doubled the volume of cheap electricity it can export to EU markets as the country continues to advance its European energy integration despite Russia’s ongoing invasion. The July 30 expansion of export capacity is likely to prove particularly welcome as consumers in neighboring EU countries struggle with record high prices. Ukraine’s interconnection capacity with Romania and Slovakia rose from 100 megawatts (MW) to 250MW at the end of July, with this expanded capacity equally split between the two EU member states. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blog...y-integration/

[mapuc]

Heard that UA got 4 more of these HIMARS System.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Heard that UA got 4 more of these HIMARS System.

Markus

And 75,000 rounds of 155mm artillery ammunition;
Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS).

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Dargo

And 75,000 rounds of 155mm artillery ammunition;
Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS).

Read following on twitter

"- Russia is bombing the stuff Nato sends into Ukraine-The Ukrainian never get their hands on it."

I know they have tried to bomb and is trying to..I would say without success.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Read following on twitter

"- Russia is bombing the stuff Nato sends into Ukraine-The Ukrainian never get their hands on it."

I know they have tried to bomb and is trying to..I would say without success.

Markus

They destroyed a couple howitzers, but that is all. The Russian Ministry of Defense claims it destroyed two of Ukraine's HIMARS rocket artillery systems, and posts video to prove it. Apparently, the two 16.2 ton, 7 m long, 3.2. M high, 2.4 m wide HIMARS vehicles were hidden in a room on the second floor of a building in Kharkiv.

[Dargo]

Russians have gathered about 30 battalion tactical groups in the south for the attack on Kryvyi Rih and Mykolaiv, - Oleksii Arestovych reports. Adviser to the head of the President’s Office also adds: "We have a certain idea, which suggests that the more Russia will transport personnel and equipment to the Kherson direction - the better".

[mapuc]

It's dangerous to criticize Putin

Anatoly Chubais, who resigned as a high-ranking adviser to Russian President Vladimir Putin and left Russia shortly after the invasion of Ukraine, was reported to be in intensive care in a European hospital on Sunday for a neurological disorder.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...pital-87713671

Markus

[Catfish]

^ Yes. There was also at least one threat in this forum already.

" [...] the MARS 2 Systems from Germany comes with a COBRA Counter battery radar which may be important.
It is the most sophisticated radar system to detect positions of mortars, artillery and rocket launchers. It reaches 100km and can identify 40 enemy positions in only two minutes within a 40km range.
The data is transmitted to PzH-2000, Mars2 and HIMARS.
In case of PzH2000 and MARS2 it can attack the enemy position in automated mode at a very high accurracy."
edit: "The crew doesn't have to do much".

[Skybird]

FOCUS writes:


The Russian army is experiencing a deadly inferno in Ukraine. Putin's troops will struggle with the aftermath for a long time, according to two military researchers. An example case shows what happened on the battlefield.

In March 2022, Viktor Shayga volunteered for the. 752nd Guards Motor Rifle Regiment. Russian Army. He wanted to fight in Ukraine.

His unit came to the Izjum region, east of Kharkiv, a city of over a million people. Shayga and twelve comrades were to help capture the village of Dovhen'ke. A short time later, another 13 men arrived for the regiment.

Then it was off. "One morning our political officer came. He said we were going to hell. Those who didn't want to fight could stay in camp. Only one of us stayed behind. Everyone else went to fight."
"Eighty percent of us - or even more - refused to fight. So did I."

The group moved from Sulyhivka toward Dovhen'ke. But the Ukrainians were waiting for them. The enemy's artillery took Shayga's regiment under fire. "When the second salvo rained down on us, I was already saying goodbye to my life. I thought the next bomb would either tear off my legs or kill me instantly."

The attack was postponed until the next day. "Many commanders of the two battalions told their soldiers that they were going to certain death because the Ukrainians were well prepared," Shayga recounts in a diary. "So they said - decide for yourselves whether you want to go or not. Eighty percent of us - or even more - refused. Including me. I couldn't take it anymore."

Those who did go to fight came under massive fire. Many died. Others were wounded. Among them was Shayga's commander.
Destroyed Russian military vehicles lie in a garbage dump in
SOPA Images/LightRocket via Gett Destroyed Russian military vehicles.

The battalion's leader instructed everyone to fight. But a senior soldier advised them to retreat. Shayga recounts, "Many just ran away. They were supposed to help the wounded, but they didn't." The next day, almost everyone in his unit refused to fight.

Other units attacked Dovhen'ke again. But special units did not get through either. Shayga recounts: A unit of well-trained reservists besieged the village for a month. "340 of them had come to Ukraine. After a month, only 57 were still alive. And they didn't have one real battle. All the losses came from Ukrainian artillery."

Two months after the attack on Dovhen'ke began, he said, all the officers were either dead or wounded or had refused to fight.

Shayga and other refuseniks had then been used as laborers. They dug trenches and built dugouts. Every day, he said, more refuseniks were added. "Many had even worse stories than ours," Shayga said.

For military researcher Chris Owen, this story is exemplary. He writes, "This war is unlike anything the Russians have experienced before. Even those who have fought in the Caucasus or the Middle East have not seen anything like this." The likelihood of dying is far higher than in previous conflicts, he says.

Owen says, "Russian soldiers are motivated by money, ideology, camaraderie or experience. But none of that matters when you come home in a coffin. Motivation often breaks down in the face of death. Especially when leadership is poor."

It was a very bad sign, Owen said, that leaders - as in Shayga's case - didn't want to fight themselves. Even experienced sergeants refused to fight.
"This is the story of a military generation being destroyed"

Dara Massicot of the U.S. think tank Rand Corporation goes a step further. She looks at the long-term damage of the deadly war in Ukraine. "The long-term damages to the Russian army are immense. They go far beyond the number of dead or equipment destroyed. This is the story of a military generation being destroyed."

Those who survive would become a particular problem. "They bring the war traumas home with them. The war crimes. The stress. They bring those problems right into the barracks. It's going to be a toxic brew for all those who come into the Army in the future."

Owen sees it that way, too. The military historian writes, "Russia is destroying its army."

While Shayga's narrative is now some time ago, much has happened on the battlefield. In their offensive in the east, the Russians initially managed to circumvent the Ukrainians' successful war tactics. Through massive attacks, supported by heavy artillery fire of their own, the Russians prevented the Ukrainians from inflicting heavy damage on their part through artillery.

But most recently, that tide has turned again. In particular, the use of the American Himars guns allowed the Ukrainian artillery to return to the old, successful "corrosion" tactics. Now they are again hitting Russian troops and their supplies sensitively far behind the front line. The burgeoning morale of Putin's warriors is once again weakened.


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With all these zombies coming home to Russia, and all these demons in their heads, an already very brutal civil society like the Russian one, that sees a lot of dysfunctional and violent families with alcoholic and beating male alphas in them, will turn worse regarding inner violence and brutal social structures.

If you are Russian and young, leave Russia, if you can. Forever. Its a dark place, and it will become much darker. And Putin will be followed by somebody like him - or somebody worse than Putin.

[Catfish]

^ not that i do not believe there are russian soldiers who experienced that and acted accordingly.
However how comes that Russia was able to capture the southern coast and almost all of Donbas?
The special (permanent) operation is far from over.

[Skybird]

Already significant presence of separatist forces form beginning on, and much treason and collaboration. Crimea by majority is pro-Russia, in Luhansk and Donbass it never was a majority, but a huge group. (Refering to census data from 2002, the last census they did).


Yes its far from over, Russia so far compensates its infantry fighting weakness with artillery and the willingness to let the body counter run away. Their advance currently is very slow again, getting countered. Just today I red in a German onlpine apper the ukrainian generals say that due to HIMARS the Russian artillery is down to one fifth or even one sixth of the rounds it fired per day before the HIMARS arrived. Before, the Russians were said to have fired 5-10 times more rounds per day tha the Ukrainians. Consideirng thta the Wetsenr systems are also more precise than th eRussian systems, another ukrainian field officer some days ago described it as "One could say we have parity now".

[Jimbuna]

The world is one misstep from devastating nuclear war and in peril not seen since the Cold War, the UN Secretary General has warned.

"We have been extraordinarily lucky so far," Antonio Guterres said.

Amid rising global tensions, "humanity is just one misunderstanding, one miscalculation away from nuclear annihilation", he added.

His remarks came at the opening of a conference for countries signed up to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-62381425

[Jimbuna]

Partisans have become active in occupied Crimea, the peninsula is preparing to return to control of Ukraine, - Defence Intelligence of Ukraine

Partisans became more active on the peninsula

This was stated by Vadym Skibitsky, the representative of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine, Censor.NET informs.

"Regrouping is now underway - the enemy continues to regroup its forces in the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia directions. A battalion tactical group of Russian paratroopers has arrived in occupied Crimea to be sent to the mainland of Ukraine," he noted.

In addition, Skibitsky continued, the invaders are strengthening the air defense system on the occupied peninsula.

"Against this background, the partisans and the movement against the occupiers became more active. People are preparing for the fact that we will return there," added the representative of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine.