US Politics Thread 2021-24

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by les green01

which one is worse carter or biden or are they running neck to neck

Carter was a fool, but he meant well.

Originally Posted by Schizo

Arizona governor builds border wall out of cargo shipping containers along the US-Mexican border. It was his final act as governor of Arizona. He is Republican.

Bahaha! Kari Lake was robbed!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Its reported that ex-marine was not freed because the Russians wanted for him a Russian spy who is held by the Germans.

The "spy" is in fact a convicted murderer who is in prison for the so-called "Tiergarten murder" in Berlin.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...murder-berlin/

In accordance with prosecutors’ demands, the court ruled that the crimes of 56-year-old Krasikov were particularly grave, a finding that is likely to prevent an early release after 15 years of imprisonment, as is common in the German justice system.

[les green01]

Originally Posted by em2nought

Carter was a fool, but he meant well.






Bahaha! Kari Lake was robbed!

does seem like it is worse under biden instead of carter

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by les green01

does seem like it is worse under biden instead of carter

You don't remember gasoline rationing?

[les green01]

Originally Posted by MaDef

You don't remember gasoline rationing?

i remember the long lines also billy carter going on tv news and saying the problem right now is gas is too cheap didn't take long for the arabs to fix that but then i was like 4 or 5 years old

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by MaDef

You don't remember gasoline rationing?

Sure do. It did force the auto industry dragging, kicking, and screaming into the digital tuning age along with the EPA emission requirments. Love it, or hate it, cars now have more power with less emissions and far fewer tune up needs.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Sure do. It did force the auto industry dragging, kicking, and screaming into the digital tuning age along with the EPA emission requirments. Love it, or hate it, cars now have more power with less emissions and far fewer tune up needs.

And was instrumental in pushing the inflation rate into double digits. We are now going to see the same thing happen as a result of Biden's climate initiatives, only it will be worse.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by MaDef

And was instrumental in pushing the inflation rate into double digits. We are now going to see the same thing happen as a result of Biden's climate initiatives, only it will be worse.

I won't paint it in your colors but costs will rise as they always do. When haven't they no matter who is in charge? In my work experience, many CEO's have kept costs down during their brief stays by not spending on things that have to be funded, and then leave patting themselves on the back and leaving a disaster for they new CEO to fix. It's nothing more than kicking the can down the street and the money ends up being spent anyway except it then costs more.

Can you show me an example of when costs went down during some adminisration, ever?

[les green01]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I won't paint it in your colors but costs will rise as they always do. When haven't they no matter who is in charge? In my work experience, many CEO's have kept costs down during their brief stays by not spending on things that have to be funded, and then leave patting themselves on the back and leaving a disaster for they new CEO to fix. It's nothing more than kicking the can down the street and the money ends up being spent anyway except it then costs more.

Can you show me an example of when costs went down during some adminisration, ever?

honest with you i though we would have to look in 1800's 1921-1922 1927-1928 1930-1933 1938-39 1949 https://www.usinflationcalculator.co...flation-rates/

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I won't paint it in your colors but costs will rise as they always do. When haven't they no matter who is in charge? In my work experience, many CEO's have kept costs down during their brief stays by not spending on things that have to be funded, and then leave patting themselves on the back and leaving a disaster for they new CEO to fix. It's nothing more than kicking the can down the street and the money ends up being spent anyway except it then costs more.

Can you show me an example of when costs went down during some adminisration, ever?

You are confusing "rising costs" (an increase in the price of goods) with "inflation" (decrease in the value of money)

I'm not going to get in a long winded explanation differentiating the two, suffice to say that they are very closely related, and inflation is driven by governmental policy. (for example: 803 BILLION DOLLARS thrown willy-nilly into the economy and touted as an offset to the governments shutdown of the economy in response to covid-19).

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Sure do. It did force the auto industry dragging, kicking, and screaming into the digital tuning age along with the EPA emission requirments. Love it, or hate it, cars now have more power with less emissions and far fewer tune up needs.

Government CAFE laws. Even then the automakers played games with that. The digital(ECM's) age grew as emission standards tightened. Emissions and CAFE laws are two different things in a way.

Most definitely vehicles today need less maintenance, go further on a gallon of gas and quite powerful. Emission are almost but not quite nil.

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Emission are almost but not quite nil.

That depends on what you mean by "emission". If you are talking about carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides (NOx, mainly nitrogenmonoxide), sulfur oxides, lead or aromatic hydrocarbons you are quite right, these have been reduced dramatically over the past half century.


However, carbon dioxide emissions are certainly not nil (not even close), and they never will be. A car that uses 6L of gasoline (not diesel) per 100km (that's roughly 40 miles / gallon) will produce about 200 gramms of carbon dioxide per kilometre (about 320 gramms per mile), and there's nothing that can be changed about it.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

That depends on what you mean by "emission". If you are talking about carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides (NOx, mainly nitrogenmonoxide), sulfur oxides, lead or aromatic hydrocarbons you are quite right, these have been reduced dramatically over the past half century.


However, carbon dioxide emissions are certainly not nil (not even close), and they never will be. A car that uses 6L of gasoline (not diesel) per 100km (that's roughly 40 miles / gallon) will produce about 200 gramms of carbon dioxide per kilometre (about 320 gramms per mile), and there's nothing that can be changed about it.

Not quite nil as stated in my post.

[Ostfriese]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Not quite nil as stated in my post.

I can accept that

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Ostfriese

I can accept that

I can accept the accept. Clear as mud!