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Old 12-13-11, 12:04 PM   #1
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Default A first for me: Allied Submarines!

I have returned to SH3 after several years, and frustration with SH5. I have reloaded GWX (my pc apparently can't handle LSH3) and am adding in various mods.

My first career is with Flotilla 1, in a Duck--U-16. It was February 1940 and I was exiting the Skagerrak (I forgot to hit the script for the Kiel passage) when a lookout spotted a contact to the NW. I headed north and as I did so determined that the contact was a submarine headed east.

I cheated, of course, and used the external view keys to check its nationality. I'm far too impatient. It was British, an "S" type.

I submerged and waited in ambush. The Brit crew was clearly not as alert as mine.

At 1100 meters I launched a single torpedo, depth 2 meters, fast speed, contact detonator. Kaboom!

She was the Shark, 767 tons.

This was the first time I had ever seen an Allied submarine. I assume it's an add-on via GWX 3.

Has anyone been attacked by an Allied submarine?
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Old 12-13-11, 12:36 PM   #2
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Ha! One of those rarest moments of a career. Long long time ago when I still used auto aiming, happened to spot British S class too at night in Bay of Biscay. Sent her a 7 meters long best wishes, after receiving went down quickly
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Old 12-13-11, 12:38 PM   #3
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(my pc apparently can't handle LSH3)
You're not the only one. I'm still waiting for a rig that will run it.

Good job, though!
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Old 12-13-11, 12:41 PM   #4
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I have returned to SH3 after several years, and frustration with SH5. I have reloaded GWX (my pc apparently can't handle LSH3) and am adding in various mods.

My first career is with Flotilla 1, in a Duck--U-16. It was February 1940 and I was exiting the Skagerrak (I forgot to hit the script for the Kiel passage) when a lookout spotted a contact to the NW. I headed north and as I did so determined that the contact was a submarine headed east.

I cheated, of course, and used the external view keys to check its nationality. I'm far too impatient. It was British, an "S" type.

I submerged and waited in ambush. The Brit crew was clearly not as alert as mine.

At 1100 meters I launched a single torpedo, depth 2 meters, fast speed, contact detonator. Kaboom!

She was the Shark, 767 tons.

This was the first time I had ever seen an Allied submarine. I assume it's an add-on via GWX 3.

Has anyone been attacked by an Allied submarine?
...nice one! did you get a photo?
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Old 12-13-11, 01:42 PM   #5
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Old 12-13-11, 04:37 PM   #6
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...strange looking beast, with the nose of a Dodo!

have thought about buying this book on the very subject..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sea-Wolves-E...sr=1-1-catcorr

hope the link works
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Old 12-13-11, 04:41 PM   #7
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I have returned to SH3 after several years, and frustration with SH5. I have reloaded GWX (my pc apparently can't handle LSH3) and am adding in various mods.

My first career is with Flotilla 1, in a Duck--U-16. It was February 1940 and I was exiting the Skagerrak (I forgot to hit the script for the Kiel passage) when a lookout spotted a contact to the NW. I headed north and as I did so determined that the contact was a submarine headed east.

I cheated, of course, and used the external view keys to check its nationality. I'm far too impatient. It was British, an "S" type.

I submerged and waited in ambush. The Brit crew was clearly not as alert as mine.

At 1100 meters I launched a single torpedo, depth 2 meters, fast speed, contact detonator. Kaboom!

She was the Shark, 767 tons.

This was the first time I had ever seen an Allied submarine. I assume it's an add-on via GWX 3.

Has anyone been attacked by an Allied submarine?
Your experience with this encounter sounds very familiar to me! I also had my first sub encounter just this last week! It was an S-class - I don't know the name because I do not use ship names*.

My experience:
I was already returning from a very successful patrol where I had randomly stumbled into a British task force west of Scapa Flow (early '40) which consisted of the Hood, Rodney, a Revenge class, and various destroyer escorts skirting the perimeter of the main line. I used a 4 eel salvo to take the Hood down, and I also took a pot shot at the Revenge with my very last eel as I was getting the heck out of Dodge to avoid the "bee's nest" I had just kicked .

Since I was out of eels and had a very pretty 48000 ton log entry to show BdU, I headed back to port at full speed. Uneventful return until I was within 100km of Helgoland, and my watch officer begins to sparingly report the typical Wilhelmshaven traffic which is standard for this area.

This close to port I typically don't pay much attention to long range sightings, but one in particular caught my eye for two reasons: 1) it was closer than "long range" and 2) it was reported as a U-boat, which usually warrants a friendly look through the binoculars.

I take a look at it, and it immediately strikes me as odd - "what are those... poles... sticking out of the conning tower". My mind typically thinks of the "T" class with its very unique bow when on the subject of British subs, and this didn't appear to have that bow sticking up out of the water. To finally suspend my disbelief at this being anything other than another U-boat, it took having my watch officer ID the sub and seeing the "Britisches Reich" handbook appear when I clicked the class name (the book did not open as there are no entries for subs).

Well... I was fresh out of torpedoes, so I figured the only sensible thing to do would be to have an old-fashioned surface duel right then and there! (in that actual situation it would probably be wisest to report the contact to the Luftwaffe and get out sight than to risk serious damage to a IXB sub that early in the war... but in this game I have called Herr Goering's office before only to hear what follows after "press 3 if you are from the Kriegsmarine and require assistance"). Did all the standard preparations, presented as narrow a profile as I could, then we proceeded to have the cliched "knife fight in a telephone booth". I think I ducked more in the next minute or two than they did in the whole of Das Boot! Lots of splashes followed by distinct *whizzing* sounds going past my head! Duel finally ended when my deck gun crew struck home just below their conning tower. As a final act of defiance the S-class scored a hit on the very bow of my boat, but I was extremely lucky that it struck high, as it really didn't cause any damage other than a blemish on the bow and minor damage to the forward tubes (I was amazed to find out after docking that it had represented only about 1% hull damage).

*quick side note: enabling those intuitively feels ahistorical - besides in certain instances where the ship is famous or unique enough to be positively ID'd on sight (or whose loss would later make the news) or in the course of a daylight surface attack (more and more dangerous as war goes on, basically suicidal by war's end), or some type of SOS or "ship x please report" communications are intercepted, it doesn't seem like a U-boat crew would have known the names vast majority of the tonnage sunk... however, correct me if I'm wrong - this is entirely an intuitive feel I have and I have not spent the time to back this hunch up with any specific historical evidence, so if you have some, please correct me and give me an excuse to use them! I also realize that they don't have to be historical to use them (or if we even know all the time with any certainty what really IS historical or realistic - none of us were there) - this is still a game after all! - but besides an occasional indulgence with the external camera to watch a target sink or avoiding the micromanagement of the crew absent the presence of a rotating shift system, I tend to favor making SH3 as much of a simulation as possible (and less of a pure game).

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Ha! One of those rarest moments of a career. Long long time ago when I still used auto aiming, happened to spot British S class too at night in Bay of Biscay. Sent her a 7 meters long best wishes, after receiving went down quickly
I can appreciate the rarity of these encounters - I have played roughly 160 of SH3 (Steam keeps tabs on it, lol) - about 10 patrols vanilla (so I have had the experience of too easily sneaking into Scapa Flow... and then finding it completely empty ) and the rest with some flavor of GWX setup... the latest additions concerning mostly immersion and manual targeting specifically. The only subs I had seen up to that point were other U-boats coming and going out of Wilhelmshaven or docked there, and only after I had added GWX (esp w/ the GWX Wilhelmshaven, et all xtra ships v6 patch).

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You're not the only one. I'm still waiting for a rig that will run it.

Good job, though!
If you ever need help purchasing one, shoot me a PM!

For the performance that you get - they really are cheaper than you might expect. If you use your existing monitor/speakers/etc you can easily build an excellent one for well under a grand. To give you an idea of what that can buy you - I recently built one for myself and am running 58 mods/patches (GWX, 20km environment, FM Interiors - you get the idea), and all it really required performance-wise was the 4GB patch. And the best part is... I haven't purchased my video card yet. Yes, I'm running all of this without even a video card - it all runs off of the motherboard's integrated graphics! I also routinely switch in and out of the game while it's running to check references, look something up online, send a quick e-mail, etc (so it runs not only the game but other apps at the same time in stride).

I'm in mine at just about a grand; however, I splurged on a $200 case which is really neat in its own right but doesn't add a lick to the performance of the game.
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Old 12-13-11, 05:34 PM   #8
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I had a surface gun battle awhile back with a T class. Shot off its deck gun, and pretty much annihilated it with the deck gun with 100 shots. IT WOULDN'T SINK (think its a GWX thing) anyway I just chased after it and used a stern, she went down. I have engaged many subs, and im about to attack a convoy that has a submarine in it, usually early in the war they will be in the back end of the convoy.
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Old 12-14-11, 12:01 AM   #9
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Sank a S-class sub today myself!

I've seen them before as part of convoys, but this was the first one I have ever come across by itself.

11Sept40 West of Norwegian coast.

U-36 on her 8th patrol sighted a hostile submarine(received the popup message). Dove to periscope depth and as luck had it she was closing our position. At 2000m fired a two fish spread. Both torpedoes hit the submarine and she sank by the stern.

Love that even after years of playing, this game can still suprise me.
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