[REL] Operation Monsun

[Doolittle81]

Originally Posted by NiKuTa

I have a one question. Is any possibility to have full atlantic campaign 1939-1945?

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

Yes

Originally Posted by NiKuTa

Nice but when ?

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

Start 1 Sept 1939

Originally Posted by NiKuTa

yes start 1 Sept 1939 but end at beginning of 1943, then you go to Indian ocean.
I cant start campaign 1943/1944 in 1/ 2 / 7/ 10/ ... flotillas which was in France - Norwegian

Has this been sorted out yet? I ran into the Type IID-vs-August '39 mission to Freemantle glitch (IID texture had no conning tower and freemantle was an impossible default mission). I could not proceed with that career/campaign. [Lurker apparently has now fixed that oddity so others starting in Sep '39 should not have the same problem]

Re-started a new career/campaign in a IX (U-38) out of Lorient in Sep '40. Hoping this time I will be able to continue on thru '45...at least if I don't get sunk/killed.

Thanks in advance for any clarification of what I should expect in '43.

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

Thank you for your report, I will look into it.

THIS IS A MANDATORY PATCH FOR ALL OM V400 Users

This patch corrects the above reported CTD

Operation Monsun V400 Patch 3 readme

1. Corrected CTD when RAF Figthers with Rockets attacked a ship/sub
2. Added latest version of the OM v400 Uboat Damage Models

see first post for download link

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by Doolittle81

Has this been sorted out yet?

Was sorted out it Patch 2

[TDK1044]

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

Unknown

I've never test PE4 on OM. Install at your own risk

I run OM, TM and PE4. All works like a dream.

[cgjimeneza]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

I run OM, TM and PE4. All works like a dream.

HI, can you put a JGSME file snapshot to see relative posits or do you place PE4 first?. do you run the diff smoke mod?

[TDK1044]

My set up is as follows:

TMO 152
TMO_sboat_engine_Patch
SH4- U-boat Missions Speech FIX v1.0
PE4 (full version)
OM V400
OM V400 Patch 3
TMO_Enable_Uboat_V4

[nautilus42]

Hi lurker,

it`s a pitty, that you make OM_400 with Patch3 to a "Hardcore_Mod". Airplanes spotted my sub at 40m depth submerge. DD spotted me a day at 12500 meters. I think, all AI_sensors unreal. After an Air-Attack at 40 meters submerge, I takes Damage and most of my crew are wounded, but after many hours the crew is still wounded. Is that the result of the new Damage_Mod?

Maybe you can make another AI_Visual_Mod for the early_Wartime and change the units_sns like this:

(DD_Clemson_sns)
[Sensor 1]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=AI_Visual, from Stock_SH4 AI_Sensors.dat
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19421231

[Sensor 2]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=Escort_Visual (Maxrange = 50000 that is unreal)
StartDate=19430101
EndDate=19451231

and for Airplanes:

[Sensor 1]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=AI_Visual, from Stock_SH4 AI_Sensors.dat
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19421231

[Sensor 2]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=AirS_Visual ;AirB_Visual
StartDate=19430101
EndDate=19451231

greetings

nautilus42

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by nautilus42

Hi lurker,

it`s a pitty, that you make OM_400 with Patch3 to a "Hardcore_Mod". Airplanes spotted my sub at 40m depth submerge. DD spotted me a day at 12500 meters. I think, all AI_sensors unreal. After an Air-Attack at 40 meters submerge, I takes Damage and most of my crew are wounded, but after many hours the crew is still wounded. Is that the result of the new Damage_Mod?

Maybe you can make another AI_Visual_Mod for the early_Wartime and change the units_sns like this:

(DD_Clemson_sns)
[Sensor 1]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=AI_Visual, from Stock_SH4 AI_Sensors.dat
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19421231

[Sensor 2]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=Escort_Visual (Maxrange = 50000 that is unreal)
StartDate=19430101
EndDate=19451231

and for Airplanes:

[Sensor 1]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=AI_Visual, from Stock_SH4 AI_Sensors.dat
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19421231

[Sensor 2]
NodeName=O01
LinkName=AirS_Visual ;AirB_Visual
StartDate=19430101
EndDate=19451231

greetings

nautilus42

Your comment has been noted

[swdw]

Originally Posted by nautilus42

Hi lurker,

it`s a pitty, that you make OM_400 with Patch3 to a "Hardcore_Mod". Airplanes spotted my sub at 40m depth submerge. DD spotted me a day at 12500 meters. I think, all AI_sensors unreal. After an Air-Attack at 40 meters submerge, I takes Damage and most of my crew are wounded, but after many hours the crew is still wounded. Is that the result of the new Damage_Mod?
nautilus42

Interesting you thinks it's unreal. ComSubPac made many sub commanders go up in an aircraft to observe a submerged submarine. Why? Because most skippers did not realize that in the Pacific a boat can easily be seen on a clear day to a depth of 33 to 45 meters. So this is unrealistic how?

Then there are war patrol records where boats on the surface, in the daytime with excellent visibility, with relatively calm water were seen by escorts beyond the distance you gave. What was the wind speed and sea state in the situation you mentioned?

There are differences between the Atlantic and Pacific that require a skipper understanding that he has to change the way he operates.

Sorry, but the AI mod is very realistic for the Pacific

[nautilus42]

Originally Posted by swdw

Interesting you thinks it's unreal. ComSubPac made many sub commanders go up in an aircraft to observe a submerged submarine. Why? Because most skippers did not realize that in the Pacific a boat can easily be seen on a clear day to a depth of 33 to 45 meters. So this is unrealistic how?

Then there are war patrol records where boats on the surface, in the daytime with excellent visibility, with relatively calm water were seen by escorts beyond the distance you gave. What was the wind speed and sea state in the situation you mentioned?

There are differences between the Atlantic and Pacific that require a skipper understanding that he has to change the way he operates.

Sorry, but the AI mod is very realistic for the Pacific

Hi swdw,

The AI_Visual is maybe realistic for the Pacific, but OM_400 is also made for the Atlantic_Campaign. I play OM_400 only in the Atlantic_Campaign and not the in the Pacific_Campaign. I `m playing Multi_SH4 and I have seperated TMO, RSRDC, RFB, FotrS for the Pacific_War, and OM_400 with SH4_UBM-Installations.
for the Atlantic_War.
As I testet the New AI_Visual in a testmission, the windspeed was 12 kt. and Overcast , year 1940-10-15 in the Biscay near brest, attacked by Catalina at depth 40 meters submerged Uboat. The Destroyer in this testmission was a DD_J. (Escort_Visual, MaxRange= 50000) and this unreal, because the spawnrange in SH4 is maximal 30000. A Visual_Range with 25000 for Aircrafts is ok, but not for Sea_Units.

[csengoi]

Originally Posted by nautilus42

Hi swdw,

The AI_Visual is maybe realistic for the Pacific, but OM_400 is also made for the Atlantic_Campaign. I play OM_400 only in the Atlantic_Campaign and not the in the Pacific_Campaign. I `m playing Multi_SH4 and I have seperated TMO, RSRDC, RFB, FotrS for the Pacific_War, and OM_400 with SH4_UBM-Installations.
for the Atlantic_War.
As I testet the New AI_Visual in a testmission, the windspeed was 12 kt. and Overcast , year 1940-10-15 in the Biscay near brest, attacked by Catalina at depth 40 meters submerged Uboat. The Destroyer in this testmission was a DD_J. (Escort_Visual, MaxRange= 50000) and this unreal, because the spawnrange in SH4 is maximal 30000. A Visual_Range with 25000 for Aircrafts is ok, but not for Sea_Units.

I agree.

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by nautilus42

Hi swdw,

The AI_Visual is maybe realistic for the Pacific, but OM_400 is also made for the Atlantic_Campaign. I play OM_400 only in the Atlantic_Campaign and not the in the Pacific_Campaign. I `m playing Multi_SH4 and I have seperated TMO, RSRDC, RFB, FotrS for the Pacific_War, and OM_400 with SH4_UBM-Installations.
for the Atlantic_War.
As I testet the New AI_Visual in a testmission, the windspeed was 12 kt. and Overcast , year 1940-10-15 in the Biscay near brest, attacked by Catalina at depth 40 meters submerged Uboat. The Destroyer in this testmission was a DD_J. (Escort_Visual, MaxRange= 50000) and this unreal, because the spawnrange in SH4 is maximal 30000. A Visual_Range with 25000 for Aircrafts is ok, but not for Sea_Units.

For nautilus42 and csengoi

The author of the AI_visual mod "Teddy Bär" passes the following message:


If you wish to talk about how and why the values are set the way they are you can go to http://forum.kickinbak.com/ and talk to him about it there.



As for me, I have no plans to make any changes to the AI_Visual setting in OM.

FYI. The capability for "visual" detection of a submerged submarine has been in OM since "day one". nautilus42, I guess you have a short memory since we went over this before

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=242

[nautilus42]

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

For nautilus42 and csengoi

The author of the AI_visual mod "Teddy Bär" passes the following message:


If you wish to talk about how and why the values are set the way they are you can go to http://forum.kickinbak.com/ and talk to him about it there.



As for me, I have no plans to make any changes to the AI_Visual setting in OM.

FYI. The capability for "visual" detection of a submerged submarine has been in OM since "day one". nautilus42, I guess you have a short memory since we went over this before

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=242

It`s up to you and it`s your MOD. I will make my own AI_Sensors for OM_400.
No more discussions from me about this. But I have only one Question about Reality: It is real that most german Uboats in OM_400 has no deckguns in the early Wartime? Look at all subs.

[lurker_hlb3]

It is real that most german Uboats in OM_400 has no deckguns in the early Wartime? Look at all subs.

You want to provide some more "details" about your "vague" statement. I think if there were no deckguns people would have said something by now.

[cunnutazzo]

Hello, compliments for this long awaited mod. I was ordered to go in the Caribbean sea with my type VIIC, march 1942, I don't see any milk cow or other ports to refuel. Can you help me?
Thank you.