2009 Subsim Werewolf Hunt Ticker: Unhappy Hour at Mercy's Inn

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Cheers mate

I wonder who the other one was?

Me.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Extension of the lynch vote. If that had not been extended beyond the agreed deadline, PG would have been lynched and the power of the shorebased three would have been diminished. Curses! Werewolves missed attacks, so humans should miss votes, to be balanced.

Yes, I didn't spell that out very clearly in the time schedule (that was imposed on me ).

8am to 6pm Day begins, discussion for 10 hours, role-playing, then votes for lynching must be submitted by 5pm

6pm to 8pm lynch vote counted, execution carried out

When I said the lynch vote must be submitted by 5pm, I was applying "Wife timing" psychology. That is, some of you waited until the last $#^&* minute to cast your vote, so I told you it had to be in an hour before I really wanted it. Any time you need to go someplace at 6pm, you best tell the the wife the party is at 5pm to have a chance of making it before 8pm! I had no intention of shutting off the vote until everyone voted or until 6pm. Since some people never voted, I usually went up to the 6pm deadline.

While I was waiting for the late voters, other people were changing their votes at the last minute too. That's ok, it was the perpetually slow voters who kept me waiting.

[NealT]

Well I was wrong about PG in the beginning (but that was part of a story I made up) and I had suspicions about JCWolf (he really should not have been growing hair on his arm).

However, Neal has said...

Odd, none of the players seemed to notice that Nisgeis, who was in the boat with Fincuan, was not hurt and never spoke up about what had happened. Sure, the other players were not present as characters in the boat, but that should not have stopped them from questioning him in the lynch debates. Perhaps it was because of Nisgeis’ skill in crafting very convincing diary entries in his posts.… he was very clever, I would be wary of playing in a game with him.

And I would have sworn I caught on to that...and that I said something. Because that was very strange and did key me in. I just didn't push things because I was trying to stay in character by playing the 'old fisherman' type guy...

It was fun doing this and to let you know...this was my first ever RPG.....so thanks to all for a great time.

NealT

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

What would have happened if a werewolf had picked it up? :-)

Awesome! I don't know, I guess he would have buried it and score one for the werewolves!

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

The rule change to do with what happened when a hellhound killed a human who was protected by a guardian. That made me think that A very super market was not a guardian, as that’s what the rules said. As AVSM knew he was a Guardian, he must have known that the rules to do with hell hound attacks had changed and was then able to apply that to getting the two named guardians to protect each other. IMHO the rules should stand, as random events that favour either side at the start will be balanced out by random things at the end, so the best thing is to just let things flow. Attempts to manually balance a game in progress can sometimes cause an imbalance later down the line.

I'm not sure what you mean, how did this rule change?

Hellhound - The Hellhound is a particularly nasty breed of werewolf, capable of overpowering even a human Guardian. These choose one person to attack each night, just as a normal werewolf does. However, if that person is a Guardian, they are killed just as if they were a normal human. Or if that person is being protected by a Guardian, BOTH players are killed. If, by chance, the Hellhound attacks someone defended by TWO Guardians, the Hellhound randomly kills one of the three players (The attackee, or one of the two Guardians).

If a HH attacked a human, human = dead.

If a HH attacked a human protected by a Guardian, human+guardian = dead.

However, if a HH attacked a human protected by 2 guardians, then one of the three is selected at random and is dead. ?

The night HH Aramike attacked human Chad, he was protected by Guardian Super Market, who was in turn protected by Guardian Mookie. The rules did not implicitly say what to do in this situation, but in my judgment, that was akin to the "HH attacked a human protected by 2 guardians" part, so I selected Chad as the sole victim and wrote the narrative to reflect that.

The night preceding that was an even bigger mess! UnderseaLpcl was human, protected by Guardian JCwolf. UnderseaLcpl was also, at first, protected by Guardian Super Market, then, before Day began, Super Market changed his vote to Chad (everyone was always changing stuff! But I kept track of it all!!) Undersea was attacked by HH Aramike and WW Task Force. It was a big ass pile on! So, Undersea and JCWolf died, and Super Market was off protecting Chad to no effect. That's why the narrative was written thusly (Bolded to indicate where narrative relates to events received by PM:

Feb. 12, 1945 05:10

“That’s quite a collection of medals you have there, Oberfeldwebel,” said Gemeiner JCWolf with genuine interest. “I see the Anschluss Medal, the Spanish Cross, the Prague Castle bar, und here is the Iron Cross, First Class. You have a long and distinguished career of service to the Reich.”

“Ja, and I intend to see this war through, demon or no,” laughed UnderseaLcpl. He sloshed his brandy on the display case. “Ach, now I better clean this, I don’t want to drop it on my foot.”

The three men laughed. “You would be in line for a Wound badge as well.”

“More brandy,” JCWolf,” asked UnderseaLcpl, offering the sifter.

“Danke, kind sir,” replied JCWolf. “As our fearless friends hiding in the U-boat would say: Los!”

“And you?”said UnderseaLcpl.

“Nein, no more for me, danke. I think I will venture over and check on Oberst Chad.” (Super Market, changing his choice of who to protect)

“That is a grand idea,” replied JCWolf. I will remain here and watch over the heroic Oberfeldwebel and his brandy. Maybe he will loan me his medals for the next leave. I could get any Fraulein in Berlin with a chestful of those.”

“Give Chad my regards,” said UnderseaLcpl. The door closed. “Ah, a brave fellow, so dutiful. I don’t know if it was wise to go out in the night though,” he said.

“Well, these young guys, they know no fear,” said JCWolf. “Speaking of young guys, I worry about Letum.”

“At least he stopped screaming. I gave him such a dose, he will sleep until….”

At that, there was hesitant scratching at the door. “What? Back already?” laughed UnderseaLcpl. He opened the door--then stopped dead in his tracks. JCWolf saw his eyes bulge, his face frozen with fear. He sprang forward, shouldering the older man to the side, his gun out of the holster in an instant.

“Der Teufel! It’s true…” he gasped. He stepped back. “My duty…is to guard…the Vaterland… and her heroes.” He swallowed but fear remained. Another step back as the crouching fiend advanced. (Task Force)

UnderseaLcpl got to his feat. Resolve filled his face. “I am at your side, Gemeiner.”

Then, like the crack of doom, a profound smashing of the side window shutters behind them, something huge, and fast, and ravenous exploded (Aramike) into the small hut ….

[mookiemookie]

As far as the role play dynamic goes, one small change I'd like to see would be to have everyone on the same "side". I felt like the town vs. wehrmacht vs. u-boat vs. werewolf thing limited role play.

[Hitman]

So it's finally over

Nisgeis, you bastard LOL I suspected from you from the first time you replied to me saying you also had a contact....I knew too well my own lie to tell when someone else was using it also


The thing is, this game was may be too long for people with some real life issues. If I had not revealed my identity to Penelope Grey (And to Jimbuna) so I could be lynched or otherwise suicide, the game could have been different, probably also because the huge lie I created about Jimbuna unbeliavably started to be believed , and the only one who was in a position to question it was Nisgeis, who I had already started to suspect was a wolf and could even support it.

I just couldn't help laughing my a*s off thinking bout Jim's face when he readed it. :rotfl: Jim's a great guy and took it with sportmanship (What else would you have expected from a true brit except that, and then a huge strike back? )

Also, again due to real life constraints I missed an attack at night 3 I would have directed at A Very Supermarket, a night when he was not guarded


Nevertheless I must say that this is the first time I have ever participated in a RPG, and honestly I didn't like its ultimate essence. Yes it sure was fun to see how people displayed their sense of humour and abilities for the narrative, but ultimately I don't feel comfortable playing a role, I'm too straightforward for that

Cheers everybody, the thing I now miss more is having been able to go with you all in real life into a pub and drink a beer together while laughing and commenting this all

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Nisgeis, you bastard LOL I suspected from you from the first time you replied to me saying you also had a contact....I knew too well my own lie to tell when someone else was using it also

Well, I thought it was an odd PM, so I decided to reply with the exact same message you sent me, so if you were being honest you'd believe it and if you weren't being hoest, you'd suspect me to be lying and therefore a werewolf. I didnt see a way I could get burned by that. It worked for you, but your giving the vote to someone else made me question it.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Yep, kudos to Nisgeis, he really suckered me in right up to the last minute. The only time I started wondering was at the very end when Penelope was so confident that you were it.

This was as much fun as the games of Mafia I've played with friends, great work Neal.





So when's the next game?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Me.

Cheers mookie

As much as everyone who participated was really excellent, I will never forget the terse exchanges during the last two nights between Pen, Nisgeis and Pinguin

[Oberon]

Fantastic game, with some very close held cards. It was fantastic to be able to go up against you guys.
The investigation was very enjoyable, Jims response was particularly hilarious when I asked him some questions, I believe it was along the lines that I'd have "more chance of getting your arse bit off by a cabbage" and then went on to warn me of the "wolf that suckles its young" hence my change of tack onto Penelope and the Wolfsbane, which I'm glad was actually a valid indicator. After Neal confirmed that the wolves could hold silver, I panicked a little that the Wolfsbane would have been a red herring.
The Inquisition was a little scary at first, with UnderseaLcpl acting like some deranged trigger happy sheriff "If you do not respond within the allocated time, then you will be assumed to be untrustworthy". However I managed to bluff my way into that one, however the information that Aramike lied to us was pretty damning after Gorduz copped it, and when the rest of the Inquisition dwindled I had to make the info public, and I'm glad that they got him in the end.
Otherwise, I had suspects in the big groups at first, Chad, Jim, Hitman (got that one right) and Xabba, who I suspected right up until he blew his brains out all over my newspaper.
As an RP Wehrmacht soldier, I was constrained to following orders from the higher command, although I bent them a little to investigate matters. The temporary leave from the Wehrmacht then put me in a position to be able to judge Chad and co, without having to worry about command decisions.
That East Tower, god, it was all happening there! Despite Oberons best attempts to turn it into the Siegfried line with searchlights and tripwires galore (self-preservation ), although Oberon was starting to crack up near the end.
The self-destruct plan, if it looked like the wolves were going to win, was to turn all the searchlights skyward and turn them on, then use the alcohol to set fire to a massive X near the village and the explosives on the fuel depot. If that giant blaze didn't attract the RAF then nothing would The other idea would have been to put everyone in the Uboat and scuttle it, but thankfully Jim ignored that and Aramike ate me before I cracked completely!
I did suspect Ni-Nis-Bob but couldn't bring up any decent evidence to accuse him before I snuffed it, I completely missed that he was in the boat with Fin and co, talk about wood for the trees
Lesrae was confusing, although it netted me a silver pistol in the end, thanks NealT
I also had a plan to tell Xabba where I was hiding up for the night (the church) and then mask my scent with flowers, so if I died that night, Xabba would be the suspect, but Neal decided (wisely) that everyone would be trying to mask their scent every night which would bjork the werewolves a fair bit.

Count me on board for the next adventure!

[NealT]

The silver pistol was, I thought, a clever idea...and had I survived the night, I was going to ask for it back.

Having said that...you are welcome anyway...

[Raptor1]

Oberon, did it not occur to you to try to use the searchlights to send a message to Stockholm?

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Oberon

UnderseaLcpl acting like some deranged trigger happy sheriff

I'll take that as a compliment

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Raptor1

Oberon, did it not occur to you to try to use the searchlights to send a message to Stockholm?

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