[WIP] Realistic low-poly Buckley-class DE

Mister_M · 12-15-21, 09:30 AM

I'm testing the idea of a realistic ship model but with a low poly rate like the standard SH3 units... So I will create low-poly meshes (but based on historical plans and pictures) and remove all small and useless details (which can't be seen from a periscope point of view anyway...). So in short : ships' models adapted to a submarine simulation.

I've built from scratch a new model based on the World of Warships' Buckley DE model (SH3 conversion made by Alex.B).

The WoWS model (main meshes without details) has 10260 triangles whereas mine has 3400 triangles. And the aspect is (nearly) identical... (For comparison, SH3 vanilla ugly model is around 9000 triangles).

This new model I've built will be an excellent base to even improve the WoWS model (which has some flaws) and to build the Cannon and Rudderow classes on top of the same hull, and the Evarts and Butler classes on a slightly modified hull.

The idea would be to re-use the GWX textures for compatibility, unless it's possible or better to create historical textures...

Now, I'm correcting the WoWS based model with technical plans :

iambecomelife · 12-15-21, 09:47 AM

Great work and a very neat, accurate model based on the screenshots! I can't believe SH3 will be 20 years old; many more improvements like this are needed to its ships, which are starting to show their age.

John Pancoast · 12-15-21, 01:56 PM

Outstanding !

kapuhy · 12-15-21, 05:23 PM

Wow, that's really great looking ship for such a small count, good work

Mad Mardigan · 12-15-21, 05:30 PM

Very nice work...

M. M.

Mister_M · 12-16-21, 12:13 PM

Mister_M · 12-21-21, 05:05 PM

When you look closely, all details of the WoWS model are wrong.

12-22-21, 02:41 AM

Many WoWs models are not 100% copies of the original ships. They're adapted to fit the game, sometimes very grossly.

It's very noticeable when you check the AA arrangements, for instance. Sometimes they even make up hypothetical refits to shoehorn a ship in a tier she was not meant to be in.

kapuhy · 12-22-21, 04:51 AM

Another thing is that ships of the same class were not identical. This came up for me when modeling YMS minesweeper: when I started to browse photos for reference, every ship was different in some way - one funnel or two funnels, big rectangular vents or small round vents, steel bulkwark or just a railing, covered or open bridge, different placement for lifeboats, not to mention different armament

Mister_M · 12-22-21, 06:14 AM

I mean, all the bright red areas are wrong :

Mister_M · 12-30-21, 08:13 AM

I don't have GWX installed anymore. Could someone send me the GWX files (.dat, .sim, ... and textures) for the Evarts, Buckley and Butler destroyer escorts please ?

Mister_M · 12-31-21, 06:13 AM

Mister_M · 01-01-22, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister_M

I don't have GWX installed anymore. Could someone send me the GWX files (.dat, .sim, ... and textures) for the Evarts, Buckley and Butler destroyer escorts please ?

No one wants to help ?

FUBAR295 · 01-01-22, 08:27 AM

Have only the Evart and Buckley files. Maybe someone else has the Butler.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/a60am...y+Help.7z/file

Good hunting,
FUBAR295

Jeff-Groves · 01-01-22, 08:57 AM

That would be the NDE_JCB folder

12-15-21, 09:30 AM	#1
Mister_M Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 792 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Realistic low-poly Buckley-class DE I'm testing the idea of a realistic ship model but with a low poly rate like the standard SH3 units... So I will create low-poly meshes (but based on historical plans and pictures) and remove all small and useless details (which can't be seen from a periscope point of view anyway...). So in short : ships' models adapted to a submarine simulation. I've built from scratch a new model based on the World of Warships' Buckley DE model (SH3 conversion made by Alex.B). The WoWS model (main meshes without details) has 10260 triangles whereas mine has 3400 triangles. And the aspect is (nearly) identical... (For comparison, SH3 vanilla ugly model is around 9000 triangles). This new model I've built will be an excellent base to even improve the WoWS model (which has some flaws) and to build the Cannon and Rudderow classes on top of the same hull, and the Evarts and Butler classes on a slightly modified hull. The idea would be to re-use the GWX textures for compatibility, unless it's possible or better to create historical textures... Now, I'm correcting the WoWS based model with technical plans : Last edited by Mister_M; 12-15-21 at 02:00 PM.

12-15-21, 09:47 AM	#2
iambecomelife Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,584 Downloads: 297 Uploads: 0	Great work and a very neat, accurate model based on the screenshots! I can't believe SH3 will be 20 years old; many more improvements like this are needed to its ships, which are starting to show their age. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/WolvesoftheKaiser/

12-15-21, 01:56 PM	#3
John Pancoast Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Minnysoda Posts: 3,183 Downloads: 490 Uploads: 4	Outstanding ! __________________ "Realistic" is not always GAME-GOOD." - Wave Skipper

12-15-21, 05:23 PM	#4
kapuhy Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 873 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 3	Wow, that's really great looking ship for such a small count, good work __________________ An elemental spirit summoned up from the Sea of Lament itself and given one purpose, one skill, one desire... to sail! Or, to model hulls and adjust damage zones if no sailing jobs are open. My mods: Little Ships, Air Force

12-15-21, 05:30 PM	#5
Mad Mardigan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 2,327 Downloads: 491 Uploads: 0	Very nice work... M. M. __________________

12-16-21, 12:13 PM	#6
Mister_M Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 792 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Progress... Last edited by Mister_M; 12-21-21 at 05:04 PM.

12-21-21, 05:05 PM	#7
Mister_M Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 792 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	When you look closely, all details of the WoWS model are wrong.

12-22-21, 02:41 AM	#8
JapLance Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Many WoWs models are not 100% copies of the original ships. They're adapted to fit the game, sometimes very grossly. It's very noticeable when you check the AA arrangements, for instance. Sometimes they even make up hypothetical refits to shoehorn a ship in a tier she was not meant to be in.

12-22-21, 04:51 AM	#9
kapuhy Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Poland Posts: 873 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 3	Another thing is that ships of the same class were not identical. This came up for me when modeling YMS minesweeper: when I started to browse photos for reference, every ship was different in some way - one funnel or two funnels, big rectangular vents or small round vents, steel bulkwark or just a railing, covered or open bridge, different placement for lifeboats, not to mention different armament __________________ An elemental spirit summoned up from the Sea of Lament itself and given one purpose, one skill, one desire... to sail! Or, to model hulls and adjust damage zones if no sailing jobs are open. My mods: Little Ships, Air Force

12-22-21, 06:14 AM	#10
Mister_M Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 792 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	I mean, all the bright red areas are wrong :

12-30-21, 08:13 AM	#11
Mister_M Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 792 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	I don't have GWX installed anymore. Could someone send me the GWX files (.dat, .sim, ... and textures) for the Evarts, Buckley and Butler destroyer escorts please ?

12-31-21, 06:13 AM	#12
Mister_M Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 792 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	Rudderow & Buckley classes

01-01-22, 08:27 AM	#14
FUBAR295 Krusty Krab Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Decks awash in the North Atlantic Posts: 1,274 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 0	Have only the Evart and Buckley files. Maybe someone else has the Butler. https://www.mediafire.com/file/a60am...y+Help.7z/file Good hunting, FUBAR295 __________________ Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, the experience usually comes from bad judgment.

01-01-22, 08:57 AM	#15
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,319 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	That would be the NDE_JCB folder __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.