Surface ships with negative bouyancy

phooey · 12-21-21, 01:17 AM

Hey folks.

While fiddling with sh3 files I encounter some ships with negative bouyancy (mass > displacement) like M04B-MX04B and some ships in bbw's Wilhelmshaven et al. mod. Is there any mechanism to prevent them sinking in the water? I want to make it neutral but I want to know if it'll interferes with the said mechanism.

JWhite001 · 12-24-21, 03:31 AM

Hi there, If the macys insite dimensions of the object and the dimensions of the water are equal, ie the same volume. As long as the object is lighter in weight than the equal volume of water, it will float. Since the ship's total volume is krogerfeedback mostly air. The total weight of the ship versus the equal volume of water is much lighter and therefore less dense. Thus it floats. Thank you.

Aktungbby · 12-24-21, 03:48 AM

JWhite001!

d@rk51d3 · 12-24-21, 04:17 AM

What if they're made of witches?

FUBAR295 · 12-24-21, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

What if they're made of witches?

or a duck!

But seriously, you may want to look at the .ZON files. Fifi made a mod for LSH3 to produce negative bouyancy and adjusted to Uboats floatation. You may be able to do the same with surface ships.

Jeff-Groves · 12-25-21, 04:55 PM

ZON settings do not affect the mass or draft settings.
Those are in the SIM for each ship and listed in the CFG for same.
Very few people actually matched the SIM settings to the CFG files.
I can give you a Tool to make that easy to do.

FUBAR295 · 12-25-21, 11:11 PM

Jeff,

Thanks for clarifying!

Good hunting,
FUBAR295

phooey · 12-28-21, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWhite001

Hi there, If the dimensions of the object and the dimensions of the water are equal, ie the same volume. As long as the object is lighter in weight than the equal volume of water, it will float. Since the ship's total volume is mostly air. The total weight of the ship versus the equal volume of water is much lighter and therefore less dense. Thus it floats. Thank you.

That's real life. I was talking about the game

Quote:

Originally Posted by FUBAR295

or a duck!

But seriously, you may want to look at the .ZON files. Fifi made a mod for LSH3 to produce negative bouyancy and adjusted to Uboats floatation. You may be able to do the same with surface ships.

I don't think any of us would want that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

ZON settings do not affect the mass or draft settings.
Those are in the SIM for each ship and listed in the CFG for same.
Very few people actually matched the SIM settings to the CFG files.
I can give you a Tool to make that easy to do.

No, it's alright. A bulk .sim file editor would be nice though.

12-21-21, 01:17 AM	#1
phooey A-ganger Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: 10th flotilla Posts: 71 Downloads: 225 Uploads: 0	Surface ships with negative bouyancy Hey folks. While fiddling with sh3 files I encounter some ships with negative bouyancy (mass > displacement) like M04B-MX04B and some ships in bbw's Wilhelmshaven et al. mod. Is there any mechanism to prevent them sinking in the water? I want to make it neutral but I want to know if it'll interferes with the said mechanism.

12-24-21, 03:31 AM	#2
JWhite001 Bilge Rat Join Date: Dec 2021 Posts: 1 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi there, If the macys insite dimensions of the object and the dimensions of the water are equal, ie the same volume. As long as the object is lighter in weight than the equal volume of water, it will float. Since the ship's total volume is krogerfeedback mostly air. The total weight of the ship versus the equal volume of water is much lighter and therefore less dense. Thus it floats. Thank you. Last edited by JWhite001; 01-09-22 at 06:36 AM. Reason: needed few changes

12-24-21, 03:48 AM	#3
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,822 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! JWhite001! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

12-25-21, 04:55 PM	#6
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,319 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	ZON settings do not affect the mass or draft settings. Those are in the SIM for each ship and listed in the CFG for same. Very few people actually matched the SIM settings to the CFG files. I can give you a Tool to make that easy to do. __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.

12-25-21, 11:11 PM	#7
FUBAR295 Krusty Krab Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Decks awash in the North Atlantic Posts: 1,270 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 0	Jeff, Thanks for clarifying! Good hunting, FUBAR295 __________________ Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, the experience usually comes from bad judgment.

12-24-21, 04:17 AM	#4
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,917 Downloads: 193 Uploads: 0	What if they're made of witches?