Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Catfish]

Sweden's contributions make it a welcomed member in the club

[mapuc]

^ The American could learn a lot from how the Swedes load a JAS 39 Gripen.

In USA it takes 6 hours to reload and refuel, while it take 20-30 Min. in Sweden.

Back to the war in Ukraine.

ROE(Rule Of Engagement) is an honour codex every soldier-Real soldier follow-Those who have commit war crime is not real soldier

This was what I told a female friend on FB.

Markus

[Platapus]

Has the story about Putin's assassination attempt 2 months ago been confirmed?


The news stories seem to be just copies of each other.

[Onkel Neal]

Don't know. Hopefully someone in the Kremlin will take him out.

Man, I watched this video, was furious. Can you imagine that is your house? And damned tanks ripping up the yard, smashing the fences, crashing into your house. People work hard and long to have a nice place to live and Nazi Russia comes along to wrecks everything. omg I would be so pissed.

[Jeff-Groves]

Wonder if home owners insurance covers Russain Invasion damages?
Or would they claim it as an act of God?

[August]

Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Wonder if home owners insurance covers Russain Invasion damages?
Or would they claim it as an act of God?

You must not have yours handy.

My homeowners policy specifically excludes:

War, undeclared war, insurrection, civil war, rebellion or revolution. That also includes warlike acts by a military force or by military personnel, or the destruction, seizure or use for a military purpose.

It also says that "discharge of a nuclear weapon will be deemed a warlike act even if accidental".

[Skybird]

Kissinger has fallen victim to high age, too (he is 98). He said in Davos that the West should do nothing that helps a Russian defeat, and that the Ukraine should trade land for "peace" and should take the initiative on starting negotiations . He obviously does not read newspapers and does not watch TV, else he could have known it better.



Old man, your bright times are really over. One should know when its time to stay behind the curtain and avoiding the stage. What business has a 98 year old at the economy mf orum in Davos...? Polishing his ego?



This proves that even bright people still are a product of the timeframe that brought them up, and cannot escape this framework even when the contexts are no longer valid. His advise bases on views from the past that Putin has bombed into oblivion already.

[ET2SN]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Don't know. Hopefully someone in Houston will take them out.

Man, I watched this video, was furious. Can you imagine that is your house? And damned feral hogs ripping up the yard, smashing the fences, crashing into your house. People work hard and long to have a nice place to live and Nature comes along to wreck everything. omg I would be so pissed.

Sorry, couldn't resist..

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by August

You must not have yours handy.

My homeowners policy specifically excludes:

War, undeclared war, insurrection, civil war, rebellion or revolution. That also includes warlike acts by a military force or by military personnel, or the destruction, seizure or use for a military purpose.

It also says that "discharge of a nuclear weapon will be deemed a warlike act even if accidental".

In Denmark and Sweden those terms can be found under the force majeure section

Markus

[tmccarthy]

Ukraine Russia war UPDATE - Col. Douglas Macgregor 25 May 2022

[mapuc]

Here people are using common sense when they post a comment.

On FB common sense is shining with its absent

Long live conspiracies

Markus

[Dargo]

The war in Ukraine entered its fourth month on Tuesday. The Ukrainian and Russian armies are fighting each other to the fullest, but neither seems able to decide the battle quickly. Three military scenarios outline how the war could end.

Translation from article in the volkskrant https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-ach...rijd~b73059e8/

Option 1: The Russians pull the longest straw after a tough fight

'Ukraine-light', after three months of heavy fighting, now seems to be the most viable option for Moscow: occupation of the Donbas and the strip of land to the east and south up to Crimea. With the capture of the Donbas, where fighting has been going on for six weeks, Russian President Vladimir Putin can still save face.

The Russian leader can then boast that the Russian-speaking populations of Luhansk and Donetsk have been "liberated," that the "Nazis" in Mariupol have been defeated, and that the Russian dream of a land link to Crimea has finally been fulfilled.

Finally, in this scenario, the Russian army settles the 'Battle of the Donbas' with supremacy and firepower. The 106 combat units Putin has sent to Ukraine, out of more than 140 at Russia's disposal, still prove too much for the estimated 40 thousand Ukrainian soldiers in the Donbas. The Russians manage to complete the encirclement of the Ukrainian army, which has been difficult for weeks.

With the drowsy pounding of the opponent by the Giatsint S howitzers, the Russians manage to break through the Ukrainian lines at weak spots along the 500-kilometer-long line of control in the Donbas. As the Ukrainian units can no longer be supplied by the Russian encirclement and cities like Severodonetsk are pulverized as much as Mariupol, the situation becomes untenable.

Ukrainian soldiers must watch as Western weapons, so crucial in the first months of the war, can no longer reach the Donbas. How soon the Russians can settle the battle depends on the military risks Moscow is willing to take in this final phase of the war.

In particular, Ukraine must fear a key asset that Russia has so far failed to deploy: the massive deployment of air power to support the offensive of mechanized units on the ground. What will be the reaction of Kyiv and the West if Putin declares the battle ended, proclaims that the mission has succeeded, and shows readiness to take a seat at the negotiating table? His commitment: to preserve all the conquered territory.

2. Ukraine does the unthinkable: it defeats the nuclear power army

How long does it take for an invasion force that has lost about fifteen thousand soldiers in just ninety days to fall through? That lost an entire fighting unit while crossing a river. Which had to leave the Kyiv region with its tail between its legs, was swept away at Kharkiv, and in the Donbas is unable to force a breakthrough.

U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin ran out of words Monday to praise the Ukrainian military. 'Ukraine has been fighting for three months with guts and tactical ingenuity,' Austin said. 'In this new phase, Ukraine is still fighting just as hard, and just as well.' Kyiv, emboldened by Western leaders who shout that Ukraine may well win the war, is holding its ground in the Donbas in this option.

Using the West's new heavy weapons, especially howitzers, the Russian army is dealt heavy blows. Bolstered by mounting Russian losses and the successful counteroffensive at Kharkiv, the Ukrainians even counterattack. They face a stagnant Russian army plagued by low morale, logistical problems, and poor leadership.

The army chief in Moscow, to Putin's horror, is no longer able to stem the tide and must watch as Russian units are pushed further and further back into the Donbas. The Kremlin, especially with the rising death toll, is coming under increasing pressure to negotiate. But Ukraine, buoyed by its gains in territory, is not hesitating.

Before the invasion, it was always thought that time was in the Russians' favor. It was only a matter of time before the Ukrainian army, because of Russian supremacy, would collapse. It is now reversed: the longer the war lasts, the more likely the invasion force will be eroded by unprecedented losses. 'Ukraine must win this war,' EU boss Ursula von der Leyen called out on Tuesday. 'Putin's aggression must be a strategic failure.'

Option 3: Stalemate

The war has now entered a phase reminiscent of a boxing match between two equal opponents: they beat each other to a pulp, but no one wins. What was feared for a long time is now coming true in the Donbas. The "P-word," of stalemate, is widely used by military experts these days. After all, the huge tank battle that was foreseen has failed to materialize. The Russian army has been trying for weeks to advance from three sides to encircle the Ukrainians, but they are encountering fierce resistance.

When the Russians gain some ground, they have to give it up again soon after. Here and there they achieve some success, but thanks to the weapons of the West, Ukraine cannot be overrun. Kyiv, for its part, does not have the manpower or enough heavy weapons, such as tanks and aircraft, to throw the Russians out of the Donbas and south.

British Deputy Defense Minister James Heappey recently warned that the war may well last at least a year. 'I don't see either side achieving anything very quickly,' Heappey said. The question is whether the international community will allow this bloodletting to continue. The pressure on Kyiv and Moscow to agree to a ceasefire and negotiations will only increase sharply.

[mapuc]

^ The author forgot the take one important thing into account.

Nuclear weapon-So far Russia has said that only conventional weapon will be used, but we do not know what kind of response Putin will make when he understand he has been humiliated in Ukraine.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Don't know. Hopefully someone in the Kremlin will take him out.

Man, I watched this video, was furious. Can you imagine that is your house? And damned tanks ripping up the yard, smashing the fences, crashing into your house. People work hard and long to have a nice place to live and Nazi Russia comes along to wrecks everything. omg I would be so pissed.

Problem with a beheading or coup d'état is that Russia not has the system for this like in the USSR where they could replace leaders within two days. Killing Putin would bring civil war and with all those nuclear warheads it is dangerous you never know which faction get them.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

^ The author forgot the take one important thing into account.

Nuclear weapon-So far Russia has said that only conventional weapon will be used, but we do not know what kind of response Putin will make when he understand he has been humiliated in Ukraine.

Markus

Because author knows that there will not be any use of nuclear weapons.