Here we go again-Ukraine once again

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by mapuc

I have a few FB-friends who think he is a great leader.

Markus

Time to consider a review of FB friends me thinks

[Dargo]

A known Belorussian source tells me:

“Russian soldiers are entering Belarus by the trainload. They’re traveling in cattle cars - just a huge quantity. Just waves of trains arriving.” Belorussian's news says Belarus doesn’t plan to attack Ukraine. However, if Ukraine attacks Belarus, then Ukraine will get “an immediate and harsh response.” Belarus reported that Ukraine had destroyed all bridges between the countries and that Ukraine was going to attack Belarus. https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/st...04475202781184

Trainloads of unhappy conscripted cannon meat. What could possibly go wrong? North-west of Ukraine is like a dense forested area, this could easily be a bloodbath if they try to do something.

[Jimbuna]

I await with baited breath.

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I await with baited breath.

Nazis at the Czech border, 1938
"-Why so much soldiers?
- In the event of a provocation.
- And if there are no provocations?
- How could it not be with so many soldiers?"

[August]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Belarus reported that Ukraine had destroyed all bridges between the countries and that Ukraine was going to attack Belarus. https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/st...04475202781184

Curious logic they have. Ukraine destroyed the bridges that they would need to attack and that's a sign that they will attack.

[Dargo]

Russia claims it is still open to a diplomatic solution to the war in Ukraine. But according to the Russian Foreign Ministry, the U.S. is throwing a spanner in the works "by fueling Ukrainian warmongering." "The longer Washington encourages Kiev, rather than preventing acts of terror by Ukrainian saboteurs, the more difficult it becomes to reach a diplomatic solution," reads a statement from the ministry. Russia holds Ukraine responsible for the devastating explosion on the Crimean Bridge this weekend.

Definitely 2 + 2 = 5

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Dargo

Russia claims it is still open to a diplomatic solution to the war in Ukraine. But according to the Russian Foreign Ministry, the U.S. is throwing a spanner in the works "by fueling Ukrainian warmongering." "The longer Washington encourages Kiev, rather than preventing acts of terror by Ukrainian saboteurs, the more difficult it becomes to reach a diplomatic solution," reads a statement from the ministry. Russia holds Ukraine responsible for the devastating explosion on the Crimean Bridge this weekend.

Definitely 2 + 2 = 5

The only " diplomatic solution " Soviet Russia is interested in is the total capitulation and emasculation of the Ukraine and it's surrender. Such a move would make a mockery of the struggles and sacrifices of the Ukraine armed forces and It's citizens.

The U.S did nothing more than give the Ukraine the means to defend themselves. Other than that, the Ukraine can think for itself. In Soviet Russia, no one is allowed to think for themselves.

[Dargo]

Saw a couple of rumours of Russian build-up in Belarus. Since you tracked their build-up in November-February I wondered if you'd any information on this now? https://twitter.com/tretyamirovaya/s...34717183217664

Answer:
Since March, we've been tracking Belarusian military activity. There are some important points to be made. Apart from @MotolkoHelp and @Rochan_CONS, no one else does this as the Belarusian Armed Forces are relatively weak, and apart from Luka's rhetoric, there's nothing there. The Belarusian Armed Forces are largely a mobilizations force. Their manpower is at around 50-60% of the required peacetime strength. To reach 100%, they'd need to mobilize at least 20k men. Operationally, they are subordinated to the Russian Western MD. They don't have Land Forces Command, and they do not conduct exercises above battalion level, but even these are rare. They mostly train platoons and companies. More forces are deployed for Russia-organised drills such as Zapad or Union Shield. Currently, they maintain some presence near the border with Ukraine (1k km long). Size varies depending on the source. Ukrainians claim Belarusians deployed up to 7 BTGs, but we assess these are actually CTGs, which would correspond with their level of training and capability But,since April, Belarusian exercise tempo has been the highest since the end of the Cold War. Minsk tested all capabilities as if it was preparing to go to war: the creation of territorial def battalions, mobilisation, and postal service to deliver orders (and draft notices?) You name it, they tested it. The "problem" is that these drills were, again, small and did not usually go beyond a city or an oblast. But it allowed them to see what works and what does not. There are three possible explanations behind this behaviour: 1 ) Prep for a NATO attack 2) To tie up Ukrainian forces near the border to prevent their deployment to other areas 3) Prep for an attack on Ukraine. 4) Domestic politics. Maintaining a state of heightened anxiety is often useful for tyrants. Makes them seem necessary, and serves to justify internal repression. https://twitter.com/OrmeStephan/stat...62455562612737

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

The only " diplomatic solution " Soviet Russia is interested in is the total capitulation and emasculation of the Ukraine and it's surrender. Such a move would make a mockery of the struggles and sacrifices of the Ukraine armed forces and It's citizens.

The U.S did nothing more than give the Ukraine the means to defend themselves. Other than that, the Ukraine can think for itself. In Soviet Russia, no one is allowed to think for themselves.

The mathematically incorrect phrase "two plus two equals five" (2 + 2 = 5) is best known in English for its use in the 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, as a possible statement of Ingsoc (English Socialism) philosophy, like the dogma "War is Peace", which the Party expects the citizens of Oceania to believe is true. In writing his secret diary in the year 1984, the protagonist Winston Smith ponders if the Inner Party might declare that "two plus two equals five" is a fact. Smith further ponders whether or not belief in such a consensus reality makes the lie true.

[Dargo]

Biden promises Ukraine ‘advanced air defence systems’ after Russian missile strikes

The US president is pledging to provide Kyiv ‘with the support needed to defend itself, including advanced air defence systems ‘ President Joe Biden on Monday told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky the US would provide Ukraine’s armed forces with “advanced air defence systems” and other self-defence support after Russian missile strikes hit a range of civilian targets in Kyiv and other Ukrainian cities.

A White House readout of a phone call between the two leaders said Mr Biden “expressed his condemnation” of the latest Russian attacks and “conveyed his condolences to the loved ones of those killed and injured”.

Earlier on Monday, Mr Biden said in a statement that the US “strongly condemns” the Russian missile strikes which Vladimir Putin’s government unleashed after Ukrainian intelligence services blew up a Russian-built bridge connecting Russian territory with Crimea, the Ukrainian region which Moscow illegally invaded in 2014.

The cruise missile attacks struck numerous targets during rush hour in Kyiv, causing damage and casualties at such places as a public park, a children’s play area and a pedestrian bridge, with at least eight Ukrainian lives lost.

In a statement, Mr Biden said the attacks “killed and injured civilians and destroyed targets with no military purpose” and “once again demonstrate the utter brutality” of the Russian leader’s “illegal war on the Ukrainian people”. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2199674.html

[Otto Harkaman]

Iranian suicide drones out of Belarus? See later part of Sub Brief

[August]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

Iranian suicide drones out of Belarus? See later part of Sub Brief

I'd think if it were drones they'd be a lot more specific in their choices of targets. Hitting city squares and parked cars seems more like a ballistic missile to me.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

The only " diplomatic solution " Soviet Russia is interested in is the total capitulation and emasculation of the Ukraine and it's surrender. Such a move would make a mockery of the struggles and sacrifices of the Ukraine armed forces and It's citizens.

The U.S did nothing more than give the Ukraine the means to defend themselves. Other than that, the Ukraine can think for itself. In Soviet Russia, no one is allowed to think for themselves.

Precisely

[Jimbuna]

Air raid sirens have gone off again in Kyiv and across Ukraine, a day after Russia launched some of the worst attacks there for months.

People have been advised to stay in shelters, and not to ignore air raid sirens.

Ukrainian TV is reporting Ukrainian forces as saying they have shot down four Russian missiles this morning.

The southern city of Zaporizhzhia was shelled again overnight, with one dead and buildings damaged, the regional governor says.

Work is under way to restore electricity supplies cut by Monday's bombings in various regions of Ukraine.

The United States and other G7 industrialised countries are due to hold a virtual meeting later to discuss their response to the attack.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Monday's strikes were retaliation for Saturday's attack on a key bridge linking Russia with occupied Crimea.

[Jimbuna]

Belarusian forces group with Russian troops on border

Belarusian forces have grouped with Russian troops on its borders as a defensive measure, Belarus' defence ministry has said.

"All the activities currently being carried out are aimed at responding adequately to actions near our borders," the defence ministry said.

President Alexander Lukashenko said yesterday that he had ordered troops to deploy with Russian forces near Ukraine in response to what he said was a "clear threat to Belarus from Kyiv and its backers in the West".