Here we go again-Ukraine once again - Page 370

mapuc · 08-09-22, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo

Viktor Andrusiv, a political scientist and former adviser to Ukraine’s Ministry of Internal Affairs, wrote on the Telegram: ‘As you can understand – missiles with a range of 200-300 km are already in service with us and are being used in our country. ‘The explosions…. today, at the airfield in Novofedorivka in Crimea, are public proof of this.’

Thank you Dargo-So now we can await a "fierce retaliation." From Russia

Markus

Dargo · 08-09-22, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Thank you Dargo-So now we can await a "fierce retaliation." From Russia

Markus

Think that will be soon, this was an air base from which planes regularly took off for attacks against Ukraine forces in the southern theater. Satellite images of the airfield in Novofedorivka taken this morning show 12 Su-24s, 10 Su-30SMs and Il-76s question is how many planes will be visible in the evening satellite imagery.

mapuc · 08-09-22, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo

Think that will be soon, this was an air base from which planes regularly took off for attacks against Ukraine forces in the southern theater.

It also makes me wonder if this attack was a prolog to the coming massive offensive the Ukrainian has announced will come soon.

Markus

Dargo · 08-09-22, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

It also makes me wonder if this attack was a prolog to the coming massive offensive the Ukrainian has announced will come soon.

Markus

Think it is also a warning to Russia, they can and will strike deep. A Ukrainian attack on Russian forces in the Crimean Peninsula would represent a significant escalation in the war and an embarrassment for Putin, who often speaks of the territory as if it were hallowed ground.

mapuc · 08-09-22, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo

Think it is also a warning to Russia, they can and will strike deep. A Ukrainian attack on Russian forces in the Crimean Peninsula would represent a significant escalation in the war and an embarrassment for Putin, who often speaks of the territory as if it were hallowed ground.

I suddenly recall an issue in the news where it was said
(from memory)
Only help/cooperation between Ukraine and USA is when or if USA approve the target the HIMARS is aiming at

If I remember correctly-USA must have approved this attack, or Ukraine did it by them self-Thereby breaking an agreement between these two countries.

Markus

Dargo · 08-09-22, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

I suddenly recall an issue in the news where it was said
(from memory)
Only help/cooperation between Ukraine and USA is when or if USA approve the target the HIMARS is aiming at

If I remember correctly-USA must have approved this attack, or Ukraine did it by them self-Thereby breaking an agreement between these two countries.

Markus

These were no HIMARS Ukraine official would not disclose the type of weapon used in the attack, saying only that “a device exclusively of Ukrainian manufacture was used.”

mapuc · 08-09-22, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargo

These were no HIMARS Ukraine official would not disclose the type of weapon used in the attack, saying only that “a device exclusively of Ukrainian manufacture was used.”

You are correct What type of long range missile could have been used ?

And so was I

https://www.businessinsider.com/hima...22-8?r=US&IR=T

Markus

Skybird · 08-09-22, 02:48 PM

So they maybe already have Sevastopol and the bridge at Kertch in reach and wait for the perfect time when it would maximise the destructions.

Wasn' it said earlier, already months ago, that the Ukrainian weapon factories have practically all seized to exist (struck by Russia)?

This event is very embarassing for Putin's precious face and reputation. Revenge will follow. But then, the whole war is a revenge for his mama haven't hugged him.

Dargo · 08-09-22, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

You are correct What type of long range missile could have been used ?

And so was I

https://www.businessinsider.com/hima...22-8?r=US&IR=T

Markus

It might be the Ukrainian Grom(-2) missile People in Western Europe often forget that Ukraine was an integral part of the Soviet space and missile effort, some of the finest scientists and rockets coming from there. That knowledge is not entirely gone... Development of an Iskander look a like solid propellant missile, with roughly equivalent payload and range, started under Janukowycz, however the program produced few results other than schemes to move money around amongst his friends. It was known as "Sapsan". Under Poroshenko, the project was resurrected, now called Grom, and steadily progressed. Like the Neptune cruise missile, initial operational trials were held in 2021, but it is unclear how large UA stocks really are.

Moscow got a surprise when the Neptune sunk the Moskva, and this could be the Grom's surprise moment. However, in order to be effective, it needed some preparation. Crimea is heavily protected by SAM, both S-300 and S-400. They have the capability to intercept these missiles.
https://twitter.com/GresselGustav/st...49198952038400

Catfish · 08-09-22, 02:53 PM

Who knows exactly how far Himars systems can strike, when it is depending on the missiles used.
Who would openly publish true numbers of their capability, especially in this situation.

mapuc · 08-09-22, 03:04 PM

Here is a map of the war liveuamap.

https://liveuamap.com/

There's no measurement tools available on the side.

Where did they fire their missiles from-do we know this ?

Markus

Catfish · 08-09-22, 03:05 PM

Maybe Himars.
Maybe Grom.
Maybe russians not content with the war.
Maybe ukrainian saboteurs.

Who knows. All we know is that no russian in Ukraine is safe.
Keep them guessing.

Jeff-Groves · 08-09-22, 03:08 PM

I can Hack a freaking automobile computer and get more MPG!
You don't believe a Missile can be Hacked?

mapuc · 08-09-22, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Maybe Himars.
Maybe Grom.
Maybe russians not content with the war.
Maybe ukrainian saboteurs.

Who knows. All we know is that no russian in Ukraine is safe.
Keep them guessing.

This guy could be right he could also be wrong.

Markus

Dargo · 08-09-22, 03:32 PM

Families of Russian forces leave occupied Kherson fearing Ukrainian attacks panic started to spread among Russian military personnel due to the strikes on Antonivskyi & Kakhovka bridges, said the Head of Regional Military Administration Yaroslav Yarushevych

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,545 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	So they maybe already have Sevastopol and the bridge at Kertch in reach and wait for the perfect time when it would maximise the destructions. Wasn' it said earlier, already months ago, that the Ukrainian weapon factories have practically all seized to exist (struck by Russia)? This event is very embarassing for Putin's precious face and reputation. Revenge will follow. But then, the whole war is a revenge for his mama haven't hugged him. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Who knows exactly how far Himars systems can strike, when it is depending on the missiles used. Who would openly publish true numbers of their capability, especially in this situation. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

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mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,933 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Here is a map of the war liveuamap. https://liveuamap.com/ There's no measurement tools available on the side. Where did they fire their missiles from-do we know this ? Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Maybe Himars. Maybe Grom. Maybe russians not content with the war. Maybe ukrainian saboteurs. Who knows. All we know is that no russian in Ukraine is safe. Keep them guessing. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

08-09-22, 03:08 PM	#5548
Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,321 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	I can Hack a freaking automobile computer and get more MPG! You don't believe a Missile can be Hacked? __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask.