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Old 06-30-22, 08:38 AM   #4906
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Russia says its forces have relinquished control of Snake Island in the north-western Black Sea, which has been battled over since the start of the war.

Moscow says its withdrawal is a "goodwill gesture" to facilitate grain exports - but Ukraine celebrates a victory.

UK PM Boris Johnson commits to raise defence spending to 2.5% of GDP by the end of the decade.

Nato's chief says members have agreed a significant increase in funding for the alliance, on the second day of its Madrid summit.

Jens Stoltenberg says Sweden and Finland will sign the protocol to join Nato on Tuesday, though member states will then need to ratify it.

Ukraine's military has welcomed fresh Nato pledges but officials say shells are continuing to rain down in eastern Ukraine.

Vladimir Putin meanwhile accuses Nato of having imperial ambitions.
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The US will increase its military presence across Europe as Nato agreed a "fundamental shift" in its response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

A permanent army headquarters will be created in Poland, while new US warships will go to Spain, fighter jets to the UK and ground troops to Romania.

Mr Biden said Nato was "needed now more than it has ever been".

The alliance is having its biggest overhaul since the Cold War, Nato head Jens Stoltenberg said.

The new plan in response to Russia's invasion will mean more than 300,000 troops at high readiness next year, up from the current level of 40,000.

Mr Biden told a summit in Madrid that Nato would be "strengthened in all directions across every domain - land, air and sea".

The UK's Ministry of Defence (MoD) has also said it is significantly increasing the availability of forces to Nato's collective defence, with more warships, fighter jets and land forces on standby - although the MoD said it would not give details on numbers as they are "militarily sensitive".
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Vladimir Putin meanwhile accuses Nato of having imperial ambitions.

Actual imperialist accuses others of imperialism.
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The Russians intentionally kill - even fleeing - civilians all the time, so such subtle sentiments maybe are a bit misplaced. Even more so since the already have bombed shopping mall, shops, bakeries and so forth, as well as schools, theatres, you name it. With people close to them and inside them.



They bomb quite a bit randomly, to spread the feeling of that nobody is never safe nowhere. A discrmination between military and non-military targets seem to not exist in their planning. In the meaning of: they do not care.



Not one bit.



But often they aim at killing civilians. Evidence enough of that we have.
Among the estimated 130 missiles fired since the weekend, according to Ukrainian army chief Valeri Zaluzhny, Kyiv and London in particular included many Kh-22 missiles. This is piquant because this missile developed in the 1960s is not at all intended to destroy military targets on land. With the Kh-22, the Soviet army wanted to attack the American fleet, in particular the aircraft carriers, among other things. The almost twelve-meter-long anti-ship missile has an estimated range of six hundred kilometers and flies at a speed of five times the speed of sound towards a target. After video first surfaced in May of a Toepolev firing two of these ancient missiles, London confirmed the deployment of the Kh-22 early this month. Dozens have reportedly been used since April. On top of this now come the missiles used in recent days.

'These 5,500-kilogram missiles were primarily intended to destroy aircraft carriers with a nuclear warhead,' according to the British Ministry of Defense two weeks ago. 'When deployed for ground-based attacks, with a conventional payload, they are highly inaccurate and can therefore cause significant collateral damage and civilian casualties. According to London, attacks with the Kh-22 will continue, especially as the number of high-tech weapons decreases. 'Russian military planners are most likely prepared to accept a great deal of collateral damage if they feel an attack is militarily necessary' according to the ministry.
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The Turkish president can sell the agreement with Sweden and Finland as a victory at home. Have Sweden and Finland made significant concessions? 'Turkey got what it asked for,' writes the newspaper Milliyet. The Sabah newspaper talks about President Erdoğan's 'Victory in Madrid'. This already indicates that the supposed success radiates mainly to the president himself. He can use it well. He hopes to be re-elected next June, but his AK Party is in a bad way in the polls. The ailing economy does not exactly please the Turkish electorate. With his leading role in Madrid, he can present himself as the statesman who stands up for the interests of Turkey and who is taken into account on the international stage.

The text of the agreement is cleverly and carefully worded, in such a way that the parties involved can still do anything with it. The Turks can therefore give it their glorious twist, but in a concrete sense the result is especially convenient for the Swedes and Finns. After all, Ankara demanded concessions from them, measures that in part could even be in conflict with their own legislation and with the European human rights treaty. There will be no more of that now. For example, the two countries promise to process Turkish requests for the extradition of terror suspects 'quickly and thoroughly', but that in itself is an open door: of course the judiciary takes its work seriously. No promises have been made about the actual deportation of specific individuals. The same goes for "taking seriously Turkey's concerns" about terrorism. Also, an open door. The Kurdish PKK was already on the list of terrorist organizations in the European Union. The Kurdish-Syrian militia YPG is not explicitly labelled as terrorist in the text. Sweden and Finland do promise not to support the YPG, but they did not do so anyway, at least not militarily. The most concrete concession is to lift the arms embargo against Turkey, but that was largely symbolic.

Turkey is mostly about perception. They have received black-on-white international recognition of their concerns about what they sincerely see as their most important security issue, the PKK. That should not be underestimated. In addition, like so much in Turkey, it is also about the person Erdoğan. He felt disrespected by Joe Biden, who had not contacted him about NATO expansion. Now he did call, and in Madrid the two men spoke. 'Erdoğan wants a personal relationship with leaders,' says Jenny White of Stockholm University's Institute for Turkey Studies. 'The meeting with Biden is a big blow he's landed. And TV images of Erdoğan surrounded by journalists: that's exactly what he wants. A rock star.' Turkey probably didn't want to be seen as the ones who had defeated NATO expansion. They were also hoping, according to White, to get the green light from Russia for a military operation against the Kurds in northern Syria. But Moscow didn't give that, so there was no more to be gained there either. Of the Kurds in Turkey, a large proportion, sometimes almost half, have always voted for Erdoğan's AK Party. These Kurds hate the PKK, so they will have no problem with the agreement. The PKK as an armed movement is dying in Turkey, there will be no change in that either.

What the agreement means for the Kurds in northern Syria is the question. Until now, they have received political and humanitarian support, particularly from Stockholm. Swedish ministers spoke several times with leaders of the YPG and its political branch, the PYD. Such a thing will be difficult from now on. Other European countries may also want to be extra careful in their contacts with the PYD. The consequences for Kurds in Sweden and Finland are also uncertain. The agreement refers to "organizations affiliated with the PKK. These are especially active in Sweden, often under a "cultural" label. Their meetings often feature PKK flags and portraits of PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan. It is possible that the Swedish and Finnish authorities will exercise stricter control, but the agreement with Turkey does not explicitly mention this.
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Can't remember which one of you who wrote on how the West has made some huge mistake when it comes to these sanctions against Russia.

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Can't remember which one of you who wrote on how the West has made some huge mistake when it comes to these sanctions against Russia.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsl...ng-putin-s-way

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Not since the 1930s has an economy the size of Russia’s been placed under such a wide array of commercial restrictions as those imposed in response to its invasion of Ukraine. But in contrast to Italy and Japan in the 1930s, Russia today is a major exporter of oil, grain, and other key commodities, and the global economy is far more integrated. As a result, today’s sanctions have global economic effects far greater than anything seen before. Their magnitude should prompt reconsideration of sanctions as a powerful policy instrument with major global economic implications.

Sanctions are not the only source of turmoil in the global economy. Energy prices have been rising since last year as the economic recovery from the pandemic encountered overburdened supply chains. Global food prices rose 28 percent in 2020 and 23 percent in 2021, and they surged 17 percent this year between February and March alone. The war has also harmed Ukraine directly, as fighting has closed the country’s Black Sea ports, blocking its exports of wheat, corn, sunflower oil, and other goods.

The effects of the loss of Ukrainian supply have been amplified by two even larger shocks: the sanctions imposed on Russia by 38 North American, European, and Asian governments and the responses to those measures by global firms and banks. This barrage of legal, commercial, financial, and technological restrictions has drastically impeded Russia’s access to the world economy. It has also vastly increased the range of commodities from both countries that are no longer finding their way onto world markets. Sweeping sanctions against Russia have combined with the worldwide supply chain crisis and the wartime disruption of Ukrainian trade to deliver a uniquely powerful economic shock. Additional sanctions on Russian oil and gas exports would magnify these effects further... https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/...-weapon-mulder

There are so many views on this matter, we also must consider what corona has globally damaged world transport and producing we still see its effect with china in lockdowns and sanctions are no wonder weapon not have effect in months you must look in years to take effect economy is not a Holy Writ.
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Not since the 1930s has an economy the size of Russia’s been placed under such a wide array of commercial restrictions as those imposed in response to its invasion of Ukraine. But in contrast to Italy and Japan in the 1930s, Russia today is a major exporter of oil, grain, and other key commodities, and the global economy is far more integrated. As a result, today’s sanctions have global economic effects far greater than anything seen before. Their magnitude should prompt reconsideration of sanctions as a powerful policy instrument with major global economic implications.

Sanctions are not the only source of turmoil in the global economy. Energy prices have been rising since last year as the economic recovery from the pandemic encountered overburdened supply chains. Global food prices rose 28 percent in 2020 and 23 percent in 2021, and they surged 17 percent this year between February and March alone. The war has also harmed Ukraine directly, as fighting has closed the country’s Black Sea ports, blocking its exports of wheat, corn, sunflower oil, and other goods.

The effects of the loss of Ukrainian supply have been amplified by two even larger shocks: the sanctions imposed on Russia by 38 North American, European, and Asian governments and the responses to those measures by global firms and banks. This barrage of legal, commercial, financial, and technological restrictions has drastically impeded Russia’s access to the world economy. It has also vastly increased the range of commodities from both countries that are no longer finding their way onto world markets. Sweeping sanctions against Russia have combined with the worldwide supply chain crisis and the wartime disruption of Ukrainian trade to deliver a uniquely powerful economic shock. Additional sanctions on Russian oil and gas exports would magnify these effects further... https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/...-weapon-mulder

There are so many views on this matter, we also must consider what corona has globally damaged world transport and producing we still see its effect with china in lockdowns and sanctions are no wonder weapon not have effect in months you must look in years to take effect economy is not a Holy Writ.

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My favourite suspects for the desaster unfolding, are the central banks, and the govenrments. "Debt-ageddon". Inflating the circulating currencies of Euros and Dollars etc like crazy. The ECB's total assets (=Bilanzsumme) have been inflated by a factor of 8+ by the very ECB in the years since 2007-212, and national debt levels are much higher than they were before 2007-2012. The government-to-GDP ratio (=Staatsquote) is now a devastating 53%, and rising fast. There was already a high number of uncompetitive companies in the Eurozone before Corona, values of 17-22% were last cited before Corona. No one has yet calculated precisely what the ratio is today, after two Corona years, but it is likely to be 30% or higher. Typically, 20% is cited as the critical mark beyond which the zombies begin to take the rest of the economy down with them.

Sorry to spoil the part,y but one thing is clear: the world will not get off this ride intact. There's going to be destruction with plenty of small wood hacked - at matchstick length. Its called stagflation, and currency reform. It means massive, wide social decline, and state-driven mass expropriation of private savings and private property.
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Of course such a step would not be welcomed by the Ukrainian

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There are also people here who want Nato to stop sending weapon to Ukraine.

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But very full of themselves. True love, you know.
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The Neue Zürcher Zeitung:


Despite the announcement of a "new era," Germany's defense policy is not making any headway. Berlin is still concerned first with domestic sensitivities and hesitates when foreign policy accents might meet with resistance at home.

This is the case not only with the - faltering - arms deliveries to Ukraine or gas imports from Russia, but also with Germany's commitment to NATO. Despite grandiose announcements, Germany's attitude remains too hesitant.

On the surface, Germany is participating in strengthening NATO's eastern flank: 3,500 additional Bundeswehr soldiers will soon be available for Lithuania. However, these soldiers will not be stationed in Lithuania, but will remain at home in Germany. In the event of defense, they are to be deployed quickly.

At the NATO summit in Madrid, Germany prevailed with this position. Most of the additional troops for the eastern flank will remain in their home countries and will only be moved to the NATO eastern border for exercises.

This shows: Germany's defense policy, after four months of war, has still not arrived at the age of the new confrontation with Russia. The German government is not taking the decisive steps to the end.

So far, NATO has relied on deterrence by punishment in the Baltic region. Should Russia attack on its eastern flank, the few NATO troops stationed there would merely act as a tripwire. The Russian army would occupy territory, and NATO would recapture these areas by means of contingents quickly deployed there.

After the Russian invasion of Ukraine, however, there is a legitimate fear in the Baltics that this strategy will not work.

First, the Balts argue that every day under Russian occupation is one day too many. The war crimes in Butscha and Irpin prove them right: Russian territorial gains must be prevented in advance.

Second, the Ukrainian war has shown how recklessly Putin poses the nuclear threat - and how quickly it serves its purpose, especially in Germany. It is questionable whether the Western partners will really send reinforcements to the Baltics immediately if they risk a nuclear war by doing so.

For these reasons, NATO will now increase its rapid deployment force from 40,000 to 300,000 troops. The Eastern Europeans, however, demanded that additional soldiers be permanently stationed on NATO's eastern border.

The military alliance should switch to deterrence by denial so that Putin does not even consider an attack. This would require Western partners to establish permanent military bases on the eastern flank, something Germany is not prepared to do. Once again, Berlin is perceived as a ditherer in the face of existential threats to its partners.

Military bases abroad are expensive. They place a heavy burden on the country's own soldiers. Their families have to live in another country for a long time, and the Bundeswehr would have to pay for housing and schools for the soldiers.

But if Germany takes the "turn of the times" seriously and wants to make a substantial contribution to the defense of the NATO area, it must not hesitate as soon as the military commitment becomes somewhat costly or uncomfortable.

Just as West Berlin was protected in the Cold War not by troops in North Carolina but in Germany, Vilnius will not be defended from the Lüneburg Heath. In other words: If you want to deter Russia, you can't stay at home.


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This map - LINK - shows that Russian oil tankers from the Baltic reach Taiwan after a 40 days travel. The oil is sold so cheap by Russia that the long travel charter still pays off for the customer.

At the same time the loans and wages for gas and oil workers in Russia have dived by 60-75% in short time, I read yesterday.


This graph shows that the Russian oil, currently costing 30% less than Brent, may havew ost WEurope as customer - but that the losses have been overcompensated by the Asian market. India for exmaple has increased its oil imports form Russia by factor 7. Russia currebtly easly earns profits with selling its oil. It sells less in quantity, but the price is so high that it still makes a fat profit - with less oil sales.




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Has Turkey the right to do so ??

Stopping and seize three Russian ships who's carrying wheat. Read that Ukraine have asked Turkey to stop and seize them.

But can they ?

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